Hacking Suggestion Emulation ON the Switch

WooHyun · Apr 25, 2017

the_randomizer said:
Mid-range is sufficient to run most PS2 games full speed, no need for high end hardware. As far as the Switch goes, it's very capable to run many consoles, they just need to be ported once it's hacked.

I think anything 5th gen and before should run fine, as well as handhelds up to DS and PSP, since even my phone can run them. But seeing how dolphin is performing on android devices atm(and how PCSX2 is not coming to android), 6th gen consoles except dreamcast would be a dream.

Xanthe · Apr 25, 2017

"We don't know that the Switch will be hacked!"

Yes we do. Lel.

NSStack · Apr 25, 2017

Xanthe said:
"We don't know that the Switch will be hacked!"

Yes we do. Lel.

Who are you quoting? No one said that.

McWhiters9511 · Apr 25, 2017

You're just naming stuff you want to happen. This is pointless.

GerbilSoft · Apr 25, 2017

FYI: Simply having a similar CPU architecture does not mean it'll be any easier to emulate. Compare, for example, Dolphin on an amd64 PC vs. Dolphin on an arm64 phone.

DarkGabbz · Apr 25, 2017

WooHyun said:
1-l.DS
DraStic is CLOSE-sourced. It's entirely up to Exophase whether DraStic will come to anything or not. And the open-sourced DeSmuME is pretty heavy, although maybe Switch could run it just fine.
1-II.DSi
I believe neither DraStic nor DeSuME supports DSi emulation. I heard No$ is working for it, but currently there's nothing other than a real hardware to run DSiwares.
1-III.3DS
Citra is extremely buggy and suffers on high end PCs. It's nothing Switch can run.

2-I.PS1
PPSSPP doesn't support PS1 eboots. Though this would be a piece of cake since PCSXR can run on anything these days.
2-II.PS2
Never going to happen
2-III.PSP
Yeah, easy, except for the speed.

XBOX
No emulator can run XBOX as of now. And if an emulator comes out, it would definately not run on something like Switch.

...and yeah. Just buy a shield TV for all these things.

You are wrong there are two working (are currently developed) xbox emulators CXBX-Reloaded and XQEMU.

WooHyun · Apr 25, 2017

DarkGabbz said:
You are wrong there are two working (are currently developed) xbox emulators CXBX-Reloaded and XQEMU.

Yeah, you're right. What I meant to say was that there are no usable ones...

the_randomizer · Apr 25, 2017

McWhiters9511 said:
You're just naming stuff you want to happen. This is pointless.

You mean like your comment? You don't know that.

DarkGabbz · Apr 25, 2017

WooHyun said:
Yeah, you're right. What I meant to say was that there are no usable ones...

They are usable with some games.

EmanueleBGN · Apr 25, 2017

BlastedGuy9905 said:
I'm thinking this one could be done easily

Do it.
Otherwise, only time will tell

BlastedGuy9905 · Apr 25, 2017

EmanueleBGN said:
Do it.
Otherwise, only time will tell

Read the prefix of the title.

Sketchy1 · Apr 25, 2017

BlastedGuy9905 said:
Alright, I already made a thread of PPSSPP maybe coming to the Switch, and I have more questions/suggestions:
After we get full access to homebrew and all hardware, can we do:

1. Emulation of the DS family (DS, DSi, 3DS)
I. DS
I'm thinking this one could be done easily, since ANYTHING has the power to run DS games and there's DraStic for Android already, which is on the same architecture as the Switch (ARM).
II. DSi
(Question) Can DraStic emulate DSi games aswell?
III. 3DS
This (I'm thinking) would be the hardest of the three, since the only emulator is Citra, which isn't fully complete and isn't on the same architecture as the Switch (x86). Write your opinions.

2. Older Sony game console emulation (PS1, PS2, PSP)
I. PS1
I'm thinking this would be tricky since PSP can run PS1 games, and there's an emulator for PSP (PPSSPP) which is on Android aswell and on the same architecture as the Switch (ARM), but (question from now on) I don't know if PPSSPP enables all the features of the PSP.
II. PS2
I have no clue what architecture it is on (yet I do know what architecture it's emulator is on, PCSX2, is on x86), so I guess you professionals can write your opinions in the replies.
III. PSP
Easy. PPSSPP is out on Android which is on the ARM architecture, the same as the Switch's.

3. Media playback on the Switch??
I think it would be easy to port an Android-based (ARM architecture) media player to the Switch.

Edit: Xbox (2001) emulation????
I really don't think this is possible, but write your opinions in the replies!

Did I ask something completely bonkers? Tell me in the replies!

-Someone

1) emulation of these? Probably not. Not jynxing anything, just most Nintendo consoles don't have enough power to emulate anything past GBA. Plus, drastic is closed sourced, so good luck getting the source legally. Afaik, drastic can't do dsi.

2) ps1 seems plausible, since many lower end consoles can emulate it with little problems. Ps2 is entirley out of the question though, because it gets heavy affter that. PSP also Dosent seem too bad either (but please note I don't know too much on PSP)

3) Xbox emulation is still in its baby steps. Probably not going to happen, especially since modern PC's have trouble accurately emulating it.

And media playback is a definite, considering we have things on pretty much all consoles to play videos and music.

Also note though, that just because 2 things use the same almost the same hardware, won't mean they are easy to develop for both

the_randomizer · Apr 25, 2017

Sketchy1 said:
1) emulation of these? Probably not. Not jynxing anything, just most Nintendo consoles don't have enough power to emulate anything past GBA. Plus, drastic is closed sourced, so good luck getting the source legally. Afaik, drastic can't do dsi.

2) ps1 seems plausible, since many lower end consoles can emulate it with little problems. Ps2 is entirley out of the question though, because it gets heavy affter that. PSP also Dosent seem too bad either (but please note I don't know too much on PSP)

3) Xbox emulation is still in its baby steps. Probably not going to happen, especially since modern PC's have trouble accurately emulating it.

And media playback is a definite, considering we have things on pretty much all consoles to play videos and music.

Also note though, that just because 2 things use the same almost the same hardware, won't mean they are easy to develop for both

PSP can run on Android phones, I don't think the Switch will be an issue.

Sketchy1 · Apr 25, 2017

the_randomizer said:
PSP can run on Android phones, I don't think the Switch will be an issue.

I know that, but I honestly don't know too much about psp hardware, so I can't speak for emulation on it

the_randomizer · Apr 25, 2017

Sketchy1 said:
I know that, but I honestly don't know too much about its hardware, so I can't speak for emulation on it

Android phones use ARM, so does the Switch, we just need to wait for it to be hacked, assuming people are interested.

Sketchy1 · Apr 25, 2017

the_randomizer said:
Android phones use ARM, so does the Switch, we just need to wait for it to be hacked, assuming people are interested.

People will most definitely be interested, it's developer nature to want to break things then make them better

ShadowOne333 · Apr 25, 2017

Sketchy1 said:
I know that, but I honestly don't know too much about its hardware, so I can't speak for emulation on it

The hardware is almost on pair with the Nvidia Shield TV.
Everything which runs on the Nvidia in terms of emulation could run just as well in the Switch.
I heard even Gamecube/Wii games run at fullspeed on the Shield given proper settings.

Of course, the same emulators used on Android won't be those for the Switch.
The best we could hope for at the moment the Switch gets hacked, is a port of RetroArch and its ARM cores.
Right off the back we should have Mupen64 and PSX Rearmed to test that gen of consoles, even PPSSPP.
I'm not sure if RetroArch has cores for Dolphin or PCSX2 though.

the_randomizer · Apr 25, 2017

Sketchy1 said:
People will most definitely be interested, it's developer nature to want to break things then make them better

I dunno, kinda disappointed with how the Wii U homebrew scene ended up as of late, I don't want to be get too optimistic, heh.

Sketchy1 · Apr 25, 2017

the_randomizer said:
I dunno, kinda disappointed with how the Wii U homebrew scene ended up as of late, I don't want to be get too optimistic, heh.

Well yeah, but a failing console wouldn't naturally have a lot of people owning it, so not many devs would care for it, slowing down progress, wouldn't you say?

the_randomizer · Apr 25, 2017

Sketchy1 said:
Well yeah, but a failing console wouldn't naturally have a lot of people owning it, so not many devs would care for it, slowing down progress, wouldn't you say?

It's so much wasted potential, I'm honestly surprised we got RetroArch on the Wii U, as it runs pretty much perfectly (Snes, NES, GBA, arcade, etc), but we never will see PSX or N64 running, and are stuck with the buggy-as-hell N64/PSX Wii emulators. No sense in getting one's hopes up, really.

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