Former GBAtemp member and suspected pedophile gets 20 year sentence

FAST6191 · Apr 25, 2017

smf said:
Judges don't rule whether someone is a pedophile. Someone running an illegal web site may be doing it for the money rather than because they were a pedophile. People like to add labels though. Being a pedophile and being guilty of child sexual exploitation are two completely different things. The courts are only interested in the later.

My bad, doubly so as took pains in several other posts to make the same distinction.

choupette · Apr 25, 2017

First time I heard of this, but I'm not very active anyway. IMO GBAtemp did the right thing, they had an ethical responsibility to ban him if he was convicted, as they had an ethical responsibility not to ban him unless he was. I don't see any probleme, especially since, he was just a not really active member of this community.

Arithmatics · Apr 25, 2017

Personally, coming from a very conservative and religious background, I say witchhunts should be left in history where they belong.

This is 2017. Let's get healthy discussion going in order to help one another instead of shunning everything and everyone into closets.

SushiKing · Apr 25, 2017

It always surprises me when I hear about these stories about these criminals who are caught.
They always have a horde of pictures/media they always seem to have, and that is ALWAYS in the range of "Tens to Thousands".

Man, is that like over a terabyte of CP?

I Don't Even.

AmandaRose · Apr 25, 2017

raphamotta said:
I understand that what he did is wrong and he must pay for it (if it's true what's you're saying). But I can't understand why it's related to GBATemp and other hacking sites. There was no need to ban him anyway. He will be out for 20 years. And one this is his life out there, other thing is his life in the hacking scene.

They had no option had they not banned him then they would have got a lot of bad publicity IE guilt by association which then because of the bad press it could have led to the companies who advertise on the site to no longer use the site and any new company looking to advertise here may have been put off by the bad publicity . No advertising money then would have lead to the site having no money and having to shut down all because they never banned him. It's very much like how the WWE never mention Chris Benoit because they know they would lose all their advertising due to the fact the press and the internet community would be in uproar at the fact they were talking about someone who committed the horrible crimes he did.

migles · Apr 25, 2017

Maluma said:
Bro alot of computer nerds are pedophiles. This website is full of kids its the perfect place,why do you act so surprised that someone that spends all day online is a pedo? Pedos are all over the place but especially online.

no, totally not surprised.
of course there are lots of pedos in the internet, in fact you can even be one and i don't know it..

my questions was asked in a sense that i could create an account on this forum and call it "regi" "messi" or any other person, i can also create accounts in other places with any name i want.. so unless you link stuff in the internet (the same email address in all the places for example, same ip's, links in profiles linking to other profiles, etc..)
i could create a gbatemp profile now named Thomas Edvalson and claim to be another guy with the same name, how are you sure i am or not the same guy?
how can you be sure 2 internet stranger profiles are the same person, that was my doubt, i was not asking "omg he is really a pedo??"
but as costello answered there is evidence it's the same guy... so case closed and suspect is in jail. (i attempted to make a pun)

ps: creating a conspiracy theory with your answer: the admins can be pedos, they banned to cut any relation to this jailed guy as a firewall.

DutchyDutch · Apr 25, 2017

Alkéryn said:
Yeah but i didn't said i support rapist
I said pedophile ≠ rapist

I support pedophile, and think they should be helped
and i said many time that any one who rape or had sex with an underage or commit anything imoral they shouldn't be persecuted
as long as they didn't do anything bad i'm okay with them

I know your post is pretty dated by now, but just because you say "I don't support rapists" doesn't make what you're saying any better. If a pedophile is sharing child porn, hosting it, etc. (and no, I'm not saying that that person is doing this) then according to what you said, what they're doing is okay since they're not raping anybody.

smf · Apr 25, 2017

SushiKing said:
They always have a horde of pictures/media they always seem to have, and that is ALWAYS in the range of "Tens to Thousands".

Man, is that like over a terabyte of CP?

That is a vague question. If each image was 100k and you had 9,999 then it would be around a gigabyte.

They use forensic tools to find images in web cache and thumb nails etc & they are pretty small, although I don't think they count an image of the same thing more than once. In some countries the laws date back to before computers, video recorders etc so I don't know how they deal with movies. A movie shouldn't be classed as 1 image, but probably shouldn't just count the frames. Sometimes there are images that are debatable whether they are images of child sex exploitation and they can be downgraded in a plea deal, or in one case they had to track down the person in the image and managed to prove she was over 18 at the time (even though a medical professional had testified that from looking at the images, she was under 18).

Deleted User · Apr 25, 2017

SushiKing said:
It always surprises me when I hear about these stories about these criminals who are caught.
They always have a horde of pictures/media they always seem to have, and that is ALWAYS in the range of "Tens to Thousands".

Man, is that like over a terabyte of CP?

I Don't Even.

Totally depends on image/video quality. For example, a 20 minute video copied from a VHS would be, meh, 100/200 Megabytes, where as a 20 minute Full HD would be about 700 Megabytes, bigger still 20 minutes of 4k Quality hitting about 2 gigs, give or take. That goes the same for images aswell.

Alkéryn · Apr 25, 2017

DutchyDutch said:
I know your post is pretty dated by now, but just because you say "I don't support rapists" doesn't make what you're saying any better. If a pedophile is sharing child porn, hosting it, etc. (and no, I'm not saying that that person is doing this) then according to what you said, what they're doing is okay since they're not raping anybody.

No i'm not okay about it either, and i said that in other post, i just say that I'm not against pedophiles who didn't commit any crimes

(and yeah sharing cp is a crime)

DeslotlCL · Apr 25, 2017

Searinox said:
Whatever he did outside the site, he did it and is now paying for it. But I do not, and cannot, agree on a forum ban when he did not use the forum in any way to promote, distribute, or even discuss this stuff. It is gross overreach. We can talk about whether or not the community could keep civil or would even respond or tolerate his presence knowing what he did, and the problems that may cause. But I don't believe that burden rests with him.

There is no point on leaving his account untouch since he wont be able to use it for a long time...

laudern · Apr 25, 2017

Why are people pussy footing around with this scumbag, by saying "if he did it"? Read the reports. He was found to have thousands of cp pictures! He has been convicted! Bloody hell. When he was on bail he was found to be still messing around with kiddy porn pictures on the internet.

Please stop protecting the criminal and call him out for the crap that he is.

Searinox · Apr 25, 2017

It is every private space's discretion and control to make their own rules. It is written in so many EULAs and contracts that "ultimately they reserve the right to terminate" to "decide at their own discretion" how to handle things etc.. No one but the administration has this discretion, and unless a protected clause such as race religion etc. this cannot be challenged.

However,

Choosing the pariah/marked one path illustrates what is so wrong with the criminal justice in the West, as opposed to Norse countries. Rather than still treating a person like a person, providing them a path forward for non-harmful activities, and seeking to coexist so long as they do not infringe on one another's rules. Let's also consider that for his business here, he was being productive to the community. Furthermore responding in this manner to SAVE FACE as if crappy gossip of coverup was anyone's burden of proof than the trolls who came up with it, is a climate where those crossing the line, suffer, beyond their legislatively-determined penalties, extra, bonus punishment and shunning including being disposed of for the sake of community cosmetics - all of which treat them as less than human. And they are not provided a path back to a normal life, they are further shut out. They will know they are marked and live the rest of their lives as if hunted, even more likely to want to avoid the law.

GBAtemp is not a rehab center nor a courtroom. But the current social attitudes and the problems with legislation on this matter that I've mentioned before, were put in place, and encouraged, because this type of rhetoric exists in the public sphere, which then in turn elects legislators, which in turn make these laws.

Life will go on and everyone will do as they consider fit. And for my part of it, I cannot do anything more than signal what is being perpetuated and its effects, nor go on a pointless debate-and-refute saga. But should I ever be personally counted on to react, I will bend no knee to this nor be apologetic for it. And I am taking my attitude to the voting booth with me.

Ritsuki · Apr 25, 2017

I would love that topic to stay open, but it's such a sensitive subject that when you can't even talk about it calmly without being labeled as pro-pedo. So a few things :

-Pedophilia is NOT normal. Being sexually attracted by kids, even without having intercourse, is NOT normal. I'm sure we all agree on this too. Main goal of sexuality is reproduction, and your brain knows that you can't reproduce before puberty. So being attracted by a baby is clearly wrong, not natural and disgusting.

-I'm sure NOBODY is pro-pedo, except pedos themselves.

-Problem here is that for some reason, pedophilia, unlike other words that end with -philia, is used to describe the attraction AND having intercourse with minors. For example, let's take hemophilia. Same suffix. But I'm pretty sure that it doesn't describe people that bang blood.

-Now, the sensitive part. The main reason why it's difficult to talk about it without people getting mad is because it's a great taboo of our society. I can name a few others : incest, cannibalism,... But we got to understand something, if we want to fix that problem, we have to talk about it in a safe environment for everyone.

-Pedophilia is freaking illegal. Owning CP material is illegal. So even if the pedophile hasn't done anything to an actual child, he's still part of this sick system (supply and demand).

-If someone doesn't do anything against the law, he shouldn't be arrested or punished. And I think we all agree on that. Now, imagine someone with a strong attraction to children, but he never kidnapped one, or even downloaded a single picture. Really nothing. Should he go to jail? Should he die?

Now, if someone answers no to this question, please stop saying he's pro-pedo. Because at the end this right now as little to do with pedophilia. This has more to do with how we have to deal with criminals with mental disorder, and how guilty they are. For me, mental disorder or not, the moment you do something illegal, and hurt people, you have to pay. Because people need to learn that everything has consequences and you can't avoid them eternally.

So if we can continue this topic in a adult and calm environment, why not keeping it. Otherwise it's just going to be a sterile conversation.

Deleted User · Apr 25, 2017

If Japan age of consent is 13 years old, is that allowed here?
Would be dumb to ban someone here for having 13 y/o gf.

Kioku · Apr 25, 2017

Felek666 said:
If Japan age of consent is 13 years old, is that allowed here?
Would be dumb to ban someone here for having 13 y/o gf.

What...?

Deleted User · Apr 25, 2017

Memoir said:
What...?

You need to guess what i mean since my English is bad. *shrugs*

Deleted User · Apr 25, 2017

Felek666 said:
If Japan age of consent is 13 years old, is that allowed here?
Would be dumb to ban someone here for having 13 y/o gf.

Different kettle of fish. Two totally different cultures at play with that one.

AmandaRose · Apr 25, 2017

Felek666 said:
If Japan age of consent is 13 years old, is that allowed here?
Would be dumb to ban someone here for having 13 y/o gf.

It depends on the region of Japan you are in. Japan's base age of consent is the lowest of any developed country. However, many prefectures also have local "corruption of minors" or "obscenity statutes" which raise the de-facto age of consent to 16-18, unless they are in a "sincere romantic relationship", usually determined by parental consent. For example, the effective age of consent in Tokyo by local statute is 18. The age of marriage is 16 for girls and 18 for boys with parental permission, and 20 otherwise (as stated in the Child Welfare Act of Japan.

Thunder Kai · Apr 25, 2017

Why broadcast this? Who cares?

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