Former GBAtemp member and suspected pedophile gets 20 year sentence

Foxi4 · Apr 24, 2017

osaka35 said:
can't argue with that. Though some distinction between, for instance, 5, 10, and 17 yeared folk would be a nice change of pace from how these cases are normally handled. When people think you had sex with a child because you looked at a 17 year old's body, something has probably gone wrong. That being said, I have no idea about the facts of the case. All I can discuss is how these cases are sometimes handled and almost always perceived.

It's more complicated than "under the age of consent = paedophile", at least in most countries. There are age brackets for the tough cases, although those apply to actual intercourse. Not sure how photographs or videos work, I've never read into the details. I don't know all the facts either, I don't even know the guy involved, so I distance myself from the case altogether.

Clydefrosch said:
that really isn't true, both pedophilia being a mental disorder, as well as the idea that people consuming pictures of X would inevitably move on to videos of X and finally X in real life. its not true for virtually killing people > shooting up schools and its not true here.
its not unheard of, obviously, but its not the norm as far as we can tell.

Paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder recognised in the DSM-5 and ICD-10 manuals, there's no doubt that it's a disorder. That doesn't make peadophiles monsters, of course, but it shouldn't be normalised and people suffering from the condition should definitely seek help of a therapist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia

DeadlyFoez · Apr 24, 2017

Ok, so now, what if the staff becomes aware of a member that is one of those people that live in one of those middle east countries where their main religion allows them to wed 9 year old girls and the member does in fact have a 9 year old wife but it is allowed by local law? Will GBAtemp staff take action against that person?

I seriously think GBAtemp shouldn't be meddling with giving consequences to people for the actions that they do that have no relation to the site. This is opening the door for so many people to complain about double standards.

Being that what Costello said before...

Costello said:
This is our stance. We believe rapists do not have their place on the site, same as murderers, and all other convicted criminals.

So why the fuck is KongsNutz still a member here? Especially after he released a game for people to pirate ON THIS SITE!!! Definitely a double standard.

VzUh · Apr 24, 2017

well, thats made enough gbatemp for a whole day. or two. cmon, just open this page and this...

YeezusWalks · Apr 24, 2017

This is crazy! Cruel? A pedo?!
Who would've known!

(Not sarcasm (literally no sarcasm...))

osaka35 · Apr 24, 2017

Foxi4 said:
Paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder recognised in the DSM-5 and ICD-10 manuals, there's no doubt that it's a disorder. That doesn't make peadophiles monsters, of course, but it shouldn't be normalised and people suffering from the condition should definitely seek help of a therapist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia

Agreed! I'd also like to add that pedophilia deals with sexual attraction to people who have yet to hit puberty. It's a different term if they're underage but post-pubescent.

Ev1l0rd · Apr 24, 2017

StarTrekVoyager said:
I'm 16, and I think this kind of position is a bit harsh. I just like to think about the fact that the limit of 18 years old is arbitrary and without any real meaning. If you're 18 and your GF is 17, does it mean you're a dirty pedophile?

Sorry. Guess this can be attributed to a country difference. In my country the age of consent is 16. And if I'm not mistaken the law is rather gray in those situations.

Meteor7 said:
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Incomparable. Being homosexual is a completely different thing than wanting to fuck kids. Because that is what we are talking about. Pedophilia isn't normal, it's a mental disorder, see @Foxi4's reply. It's something totally different than wanting to sleep with the same sex, which we can assume both parties can consent to. Kids can't consent because they are easily influenced.

Of course there is a difference between raping kids and pedophilia (which is wanting to fuck kids but not neccesarily acting on it.) But neither are acceptable in any way or form. I do agree that the methods of seeking help if you have pedophilic interests should be better without immediatley being shunned by society, but do not think for a second that I will not judge you for being a pedophile.

osaka35 · Apr 24, 2017

Ev1l0rd said:
Sorry. Guess this can be attributed to a country difference. In my country the age of consent is 16. And if I'm not mistaken the law is rather gray in those situations.

In the US, they generally lock you up and throw away the key if you break that technicality. It's political suicide to defend someone that could be spun as a "baby f*****". I've had it happen to a friend, so it's a process I'm somewhat familiar with. And yes, stupid people think that if it's statutory rape, that automatically means you fiddled with a kid. and anyone that is on the "sexual predator" list is a "baby f*****", even if they just peed in a public playground at 2 in the morning while drunk. The laws in the US are pretty backwards.

Legal age of consent varies from state to state, though taking pictures/video are federally regulated. so if you're both 16, and it's legal for you to have sex (let's say Alabama), if you try and film it for personal use, you have just created child porn and will be prosecuted as such. It's so so weird.

Thesolcity · Apr 24, 2017

There goes FreeShop, luckily it was completed mostly.

Someone is going to sneak "No children were harmed in the development of this program." into a clone. :rofl2:

Ev1l0rd · Apr 24, 2017

Thesolcity said:
There goes FreeShop, luckily it was completed mostly.

Eh... a new fork has popped up already. FreeShop is not dead and a new maintainter is there.

lolboy · Apr 24, 2017

Costello said:
"We had long discussions in the staff forum and decided to wait for the final verdict (the appeal that is) before doing anything, thereby letting justice do its work. We banned this person from our forums immediately after we heard the final judgement"

Professionaly handled by letting justice do its work first and banning after proven guilty. Big + for GbaTemp staff.

Arecaidian Fox · Apr 24, 2017

@Costello I don't expect a reply, but in reading your initial post here, something jumped out at me that I wanted to comment on. First, let me preface by
saying that I absolutely believe that child pornography has no place in a modern society, even granted that different states and countries have different ages of consent.
Where my concern lies is the seeming practice that any member here with any kind of criminal record would be banned were it known that they do indeed have one. Frankly, I know several people in my own life outside of the Temp who have records. Everything from alcohol, to drugs, to gang activities and, yes, even sex crimes. If there's one thing I do know about these people, it's that society and popular opinion are wrong about them. There are people with criminal records who want nothing more than to turn their lives around and leave all of those awful things behind, or made a single, terrible mistake, one that does not define their true character. And in their struggle to reclaim their lives, these people possess a strength of will that astounds me, and would amaze anyone else who paid attention. Those are the people, those who work harder than anyone else I've ever known, who bear an unimaginable burden and invisible scars, that must be seen with new eyes and who deserve a second chance.

And that second chance extends to here as well. If the practice truly is that anyone with a record should be banned, then I must publicly express my extreme distaste. Anyone here who is found out to have a record should not be judged by it, but instead should simply be held to the same standards as anyone else within our community (unless, of course, that they prove to be conducting or encouraging those same criminal acts on GBAtemp). GBAtemp is a community where everyone can participate, from those who develop and share methods and ideas, down to the end user and anyone in between. What matters, what should only matter, is the conduct and merit of our community members within our small corner of the Internet, and not something that has no bearing upon their actions here, or something in their past that they are working hard to leave behind and forge ahead.

chrisrlink · Apr 24, 2017

Jail/Prison is never the answer most crimes are honestly commited by ppl who are sick and need help Prison will just make them worse but the US Mental Health system is so broken most mentally ill wind up in jail/ the ER instead of the psyche hospital law enforcement/the judicial system must rethink their approach on pedophillia being a sickness rather than a crime prison should only be last resort if the person doesn't respond to treatment but no they rather lock em up to put another notch in their belt frankly the entire US government needs to be rebuilt executive,judicial AND legestrative branches must be re worked, yes i do agree Cruel did something extremely terriable (assuming no body hacked his site and planted the CP on the site but he probably confessed and admitted guilt) but still he's sick and needs help not prison

APartOfMe · Apr 24, 2017

Ev1l0rd said:
Eh... a new fork has popped up already. FreeShop is not dead and a new maintainter is there.

do we have a new thread for the fork?

KingpinSlim · Apr 24, 2017

I admit, i like to criticize GBAtemp for the behavior of certain members, but this can not even be put into connection with GBAtemp, if you ask me. Some people are certainly crazy, but this HAS to be an outlier. This doesn't make me angry. I am just immensely sad. I could not even say why.

Ev1l0rd · Apr 24, 2017

epickid37 said:
do we have a new thread for the fork?

Ye. https://gbatemp.net/threads/release-arc13s-freeshop-fork-open-source-eshop-alternative.468436/

chrisrlink · Apr 24, 2017

chrisrlink said:
Jail/Prison is never the answer most crimes are honestly commited by ppl who are sick and need help Prison will just make them worse but the US Mental Health system is so broken most mentally ill wind up in jail/ the ER instead of the psyche hospital law enforcement/the judicial system must rethink their approach on pedophillia being a sickness rather than a crime prison should only be last resort if the person doesn't respond to treatment but no they rather lock em up to put another notch in their belt frankly the entire US government needs to be rebuilt executive,judicial AND legestrative branches must be re worked, yes i do agree Cruel did something extremely terriable (assuming no body hacked his site and planted the CP on the site but he probably confessed and admitted guilt) but still he's sick and needs help not prison

I should know bout the mental health system I have bi polar and go to Psychiatrist,counsilors and other specialist though i was fortunate that I am well cared for by the MHS many people are not so lucky either can't afford medicine or go to specialist they fall through the cracks for example without my abilify (which a 30 day Rx (uninsured) cost $3,000 USD) helps control my psychosis (trust me you don't want to be near me off the medicine)

DeslotlCL · Apr 24, 2017

Arecaidian Fox said:
@Costello I don't expect a reply, but in reading your initial post here, something jumped out at me that I wanted to comment on. First, let me preface by
saying that I absolutely believe that child pornography has no place in a modern society, even granted that different states and countries have different ages of consent.
Where my concern lies is the seeming practice that any member here with any kind of criminal record would be banned were it known that they do indeed have one. Frankly, I know several people in my own life outside of the Temp who have records. Everything from alcohol, to drugs, to gang activities and, yes, even sex crimes. If there's one thing I do know about these people, it's that society and popular opinion are wrong about them. There are people with criminal records who want nothing more than to turn their lives around and leave all of those awful things behind, or made a single, terrible mistake, one that does not define their true character. And in their struggle to reclaim their lives, these people possess a strength of will that astounds me, and would amaze anyone else who paid attention. Those are the people, those who work harder than anyone else I've ever known, who bear an unimaginable burden and invisible scars, that must be seen with new eyes and who deserve a second chance.

And that second chance extends to here as well. If the practice truly is that anyone with a record should be banned, then I must publicly express my extreme distaste. Anyone here who is found out to have a record should not be judged by it, but instead should simply be held to the same standards as anyone else within our community (unless, of course, that they prove to be conducting or encouraging those same criminal acts on GBAtemp). GBAtemp is a community where everyone can participate, from those who develop and share methods and ideas, down to the end user and anyone in between. What matters, what should only matter, is the conduct and merit of our community members within our small corner of the Internet, and not something that has no bearing upon their actions here, or something in their past that they are working hard to leave behind and forge ahead.

This may not be the reply you are looking for, but i'm almost confident that they banned him to not relate the community with him, to not give gbatemp a bad image and to protect the big amount of childs that are registered here. What if a parent discovers his child frecuents a site were a pedo used to be active? That of course means troubles for the site

I do agree with you that everyone deserves second chances, but it was done more for the site image.

Deleted member 377734 · Apr 24, 2017

am I the only one who suspects Nintendo might be behind this ? ...just joking, i'm VERY disgusted with him right now.

DarthDub · Apr 24, 2017

So let me get this straight..He got in trouble because other people were spamming CP on his website while he was away? What kind of..

DeslotlCL · Apr 24, 2017

DarthDub said:
So let me get this straight..He got in trouble because other people were spamming CP on his website while he was away? What kind of..

Not true at all. Official sources claim he was the one hosting them. About the spamming cp claim, it has yet to be proven true.

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