ROM Hack Pokémon Nova Sun & Umbra Moon: Fully-featured, challenging Sun/Moon ROMhacks!

Aly0601 · Apr 23, 2017

Hi - first of all thanks for a great mod.

Im using an o3DSXL and I'm currently having trouble running Pokemon Nova Sun and SumoCheatMenu at the same time. The cheatmenu would boot fine, but it would freeze the game after I enable cheats and make any interaction with the game (encounter pokemon, read sign, interact with NPC...)

The SumoCheatMenu works fine when I remove the Pokemon Nova Sun mods.

Are there any known compability issues or have I messed up somewhere?

SkullCorazon · Apr 24, 2017

Dio Vento said:
Which features of NS/UM do you feel make it easier? If you play the hack on the Lite Build and delete shop.cro you'll lose access to pretty much all the "easier" features in NS/UM, barring things like egg hatch rate and an available 6IV ditto.

I got it, I will* do what you said, just these things left me with that impression, I'll turn off EXP.Share too

Dio Vento · Apr 24, 2017

SkullCorazon said:
This seems insane :v

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I got it, I will* do what you said, just these things left me with that impression, I'll turn off EXP.Share too

If you disable EXP share, the only thing you'll do is make the game grindy and boring. I suggest you try it with default settings, because I designed it to have real challenge, not "lol you're level 60, go fight some level 80s, HARD ISN'T IT" artificial difficulty.

CaptainSwag101 · Apr 24, 2017

Honestly, I still find it funny that all the Let's Plays of this hack I can find (at least in English, anyway) are some sort of Nuzlocke or variation, despite that this hack clearly states it's not really meant to be played that way. Is nobody interested in classic/standard Pokemon playthroughs anymore? I would've thought that just playing this hack is enough to make it unique and stand out from vanilla playthroughs. </rant>

SkullCorazon · Apr 25, 2017

Dio Vento said:
If you disable EXP share, the only thing you'll do is make the game grindy and boring. I suggest you try it with default settings, because I designed it to have real challenge, not "lol you're level 60, go fight some level 80s, HARD ISN'T IT" artificial difficulty.

Well, I could not even install the hack, I spent the whole afternoon trying :/

Dio Vento · Apr 25, 2017

SkullCorazon said:
Well, I could not even install the hack, I spent the whole afternoon trying :/

Do you have Luma3DS CFW? If so, update that by redownloading this and copying arm9loaderhax.bin to the root of your 3DS SD card (overwrite existing files), hold SELECT when you boot and turn on "enable game patching", then drag and drop the contents of the SaltySD pack to your SD Card.

If you don't have Luma3DS CFW, I can't really give you much support. Hans support on latest firmware isn't guaranteed, and Old3DS systems have trouble even getting Homebrew on 11.4 IIRC. If you don't have A9LH Luma3DS CFW and you're on 11.3 or lower, install a9lh Luma3DS.

SkullCorazon · Apr 25, 2017

Dio Vento said:
Do you have Luma3DS CFW? If so, update that by redownloading this and copying arm9loaderhax.bin to the root of your 3DS SD card (overwrite existing files), hold SELECT when you boot and turn on "enable game patching", then drag and drop the contents of the SaltySD pack to your SD Card.

If you don't have Luma3DS CFW, I can't really give you much support. Hans support on latest firmware isn't guaranteed, and Old3DS systems have trouble even getting Homebrew on 11.4 IIRC. If you don't have A9LH Luma3DS CFW and you're on 11.3 or lower, install a9lh Luma3DS.

Sorry, I messed up with everything. I missed the folders, I was putting the code.bin file in the moon pokemon folder "0004000000175e00", sorry again

flamingdratini · Apr 25, 2017

HI. Today i updated my 3ds (which already has luma on it) and i also updated luma to 7.0.2. With 7.0.2 version of luma i could not get nova sun to work, however on 6.6 it was working just fine. i was able to return to 6.6 to play but im not sure if theres somthing im not doing to run it in 7.0.2. I hate to bother but is there an extra step i have to do? as i said with 6.6 its working, it only stops when i do the luma update.

Dio Vento · Apr 25, 2017

flamingdratini said:
HI. Today i updated my 3ds (which already has luma on it) and i also updated luma to 7.0.2. With 7.0.2 version of luma i could not get nova sun to work, however on 6.6 it was working just fine. i was able to return to 6.6 to play but im not sure if theres somthing im not doing to run it in 7.0.2. I hate to bother but is there an extra step i have to do? as i said with 6.6 its working, it only stops when i do the luma update.

Sounds like a bug with Luma 7.0.2.

CaptainSwag101 · Apr 25, 2017

I'm using Luma v7.0.2 and Umbra Moon works fine for me, although I converted mine from SaltySD to Luma's LayeredFS.

Dio Vento · Apr 25, 2017

CaptainSwag101 said:
I'm using Luma v7.0.2 and Umbra Moon works fine for me, although I converted mine from SaltySD to Luma's LayeredFS.

Are you on Old or New 3DS? I just updated my New 3DS to 7.0.2 and it works just fine with SaltySD.

CaptainSwag101 · Apr 25, 2017

New3DS, with A9LH on 11.4.0-37U. I believe SaltySD worked fine for me too, I just switched to LayeredFS so all my files would be in the same place as my other hacks. Sorry if my previous wording was misleading.

Deleted User · Apr 25, 2017

CaptainSwag101 said:
Honestly, I still find it funny that all the Let's Plays of this hack I can find (at least in English, anyway) are some sort of Nuzlocke or variation, despite that this hack clearly states it's not really meant to be played that way. Is nobody interested in classic/standard Pokemon playthroughs anymore? I would've thought that just playing this hack is enough to make it unique and stand out from vanilla playthroughs. </rant>

That's an interesting question and I can't really find a definitive answer to it. I remember me as a kid playing the old gens dozens of times, over and over again. But now I can't really find myself anymore to play one of the newer games a second time. Maybe because I didn't have that many games as a kid and had poor money. Maybe because the games back in the day were way more simplistic and didn't force you through an hour long tutorial. Maybe because nowadays you literally drown yourself in new videogame releases, with the quality standards continually increasing. Maybe because I know the pokemon type chart already by heart and play actively competitive, hence seeking new challenges. Probably one of these

Dio Vento · Apr 26, 2017

CaptainSwag101 said:
Honestly, I still find it funny that all the Let's Plays of this hack I can find (at least in English, anyway) are some sort of Nuzlocke or variation, despite that this hack clearly states it's not really meant to be played that way. Is nobody interested in classic/standard Pokemon playthroughs anymore? I would've thought that just playing this hack is enough to make it unique and stand out from vanilla playthroughs. </rant>

Eh, i can see why people do Nuzlockes, it adds a sense of tension for the audience in a let's play. I keep up with almost all the LPs of Nova Sun and Umbra Moon, even the ones in non-English languages, though I mostly skip through them and only watch the battle segments (to see how my Trainers do in reality). Some of the most entertaining moments are when Nuzlockers lose their Pokémon. While I think Nuzlocking this particular romhack will either result in early failure or boring overleveled grinding, I can definitely see the appeal, especially for a Let's Play series.

shahanshah · Apr 26, 2017

Is trainer AI any different?

Yasaka · Apr 26, 2017

so what should i play now nova sun or rising sun?

Dio Vento · Apr 26, 2017

Yasaka said:
so what should i play now nova sun or rising sun?

Well, since you're asking in this thread, I think you can guess what answer you'll get here.

Yasaka · Apr 26, 2017

ok then let me ask in another way: what are the differences between nova sun and rising sun?

smallerlp · Apr 26, 2017

Hey how did you patch it to a cia or 3ds file ?

OmegaPikachu · Apr 27, 2017

I am yet to beat one of your hacks Dio, but they are always amusing to play haha.

They are intense lol

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