Well, if there is a storm and you are expecting thunders, I think that is the normal behaviour.
Brief storm killed my HDTV and 3 consoles today
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So what you're saying is if you wanna bomb some place, you rig it with explosives and then wait for a thunderstorm to hide it amongst the thunder?
That would be a good strategy, sure...
At least many neighbours may think it was just a thunder.
I've heard horror stories about things like this.
"So, the storm here in Georgia took out my modem and a lot of my other stuff. I had to call customer service and say that my internet was down. They asked me if my modem was turned on... Miss, my modem is smoldering and smells of burnt plastic. I don't think it even CAN turn on."
Not my story btw.
"So, the storm here in Georgia took out my modem and a lot of my other stuff. I had to call customer service and say that my internet was down. They asked me if my modem was turned on... Miss, my modem is smoldering and smells of burnt plastic. I don't think it even CAN turn on."
Not my story btw.
I dont think a bomb explosion has the same cling and crash noise that a thunder strike makes. At least anyone thats paying attention to it could tell.
so, to make sure i understood...
a power strip with power surge protection will not do anythihing if it's not connected to ground...
i asked about this problem to the computer store guy and asked him if i get a good UPS (Uninterruptible power supply) if it will protect my computer against storms (as i said i don't have a ground connection, this house is pretty old and for reasons i can't do pretty much about it), he said to get a UPS, (in the convo he did say this 3-4 times)
but i wanted confirmation about this, if there is a type of UPS that is able to surge\thunderstorm protect my gaming rig without the requirement of a ground connection
a power strip with power surge protection will not do anythihing if it's not connected to ground...
i asked about this problem to the computer store guy and asked him if i get a good UPS (Uninterruptible power supply) if it will protect my computer against storms (as i said i don't have a ground connection, this house is pretty old and for reasons i can't do pretty much about it), he said to get a UPS, (in the convo he did say this 3-4 times)
but i wanted confirmation about this, if there is a type of UPS that is able to surge\thunderstorm protect my gaming rig without the requirement of a ground connection
I'm convinced now the problem was not related to my power strip at all but HDMI. I had Xbox One, Wii U and Wii on a 3 HDMI port extender and they all went out. The 360 and PS3 still have power but HDMI doesn't work, but for my 360 I got ahold of some components and it still works through components. I ordered a component for PS3 I'm hoping it'll work too.
So it's not just about getting a UPS or grounded surge protector. HDMI can ruin your stuff too. Cyan is also proof. Beware.
I'm going to try to stick to component or even composite for most of my consoles, although of course you no longer have that option for Xbox One/PS4.
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Yeah I guess I should clarify better. I've heard those booms a few times before and then the electricity company came out, but it didn't have anything to do with my stuff. I think the electricity in my apartment is just really crappy. But I believe my problem as I stated was with HDMI.
So it's not just about getting a UPS or grounded surge protector. HDMI can ruin your stuff too. Cyan is also proof. Beware.
I'm going to try to stick to component or even composite for most of my consoles, although of course you no longer have that option for Xbox One/PS4.
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Yeah I guess I should clarify better. I've heard those booms a few times before and then the electricity company came out, but it didn't have anything to do with my stuff. I think the electricity in my apartment is just really crappy. But I believe my problem as I stated was with HDMI.
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For those interested, what are the countermeasures? Everything on a surge protector? Only the HDMI splitter needs a surge protector?
Are you safe if you don't use an HDMI splitter?
I think you're screwed. Warranty service for everything under warranty and trash the rest. You need motherboard replacement for each thing to repair it and it's pretty tough to do that yourself, even if you have the part. Also, the motherboard is the most expensive part, or at least a very expensive part, of each thing, so failing the warranty I think you're better off with replacement rather than repair.
If you have property insurance or renter's insurance, you might be able to take advantage depending on the deductible.
I got no renters insurance and nothing is under warranty and while the situation is not ideal I don't think I'm screwed. I already got my RGH 360 working, my Wii doesn't really matter because I can just hack Wii on Wii U when I replace it, and I already replaced the TV for $120 at a pawn shop. So that leaves Xbox One, Wii U and PS3. The CFW PS3 still has power so I'm hopeful components will work for it just like it did for Xbox 360. I bought a new Wii U power supply on Ebay for $6.77 shipped and I will test the Wii U to see if it's the power supply, if not I have my eye on Ebay for a Wii U 8 gb console only, they're in the $80 range. (8 gb is fine when you can play games from external HDD easily) Then it just leaves Xbox One which I may just hold off on having for awhile. But I've also priced console only for Xbox One on Ebay they're around $100. So if the PS3 is alright I may be out a little over $300 for everything. I'm not rich by any means but I have money saved back and it won't kill me. If the Wii U works with a new power supply I'll be out even less than that.
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I will repeat myself again, a surge protector with or without a ground connection or a ups will NOT save you in a lightning storm. If lightning strikes, whatever is connecyed to that powerline goes. The only thing you can do is unplug everything when a storm hits.
The current and voltage from a lightning strike are so ridiculously high, that nothing you rig up will stop it. Just unplug when a storm starts and use a surge protector anyways for brownouts etc
Also wanted to address flame1234's question about are you safe if you don't use HDMI splitter, well that splitter probably caused my consoles that were connected to the splitter to go out completely, because those were the only 3 that did. However the Xbox 360 and PS3 were not on splitters and both give me no signal when connecting to HDMI, yet both still have power (and 360 works with components, PS3 I will test when I get components from Ebay). So I would say no you are not safe just by not using an HDMI splitter. I'm starting to believe component/composites are safer and you can get a splitter for those that shouldn't cause any issues. But this is just my opinion due to what happened as I had PS2 and Dreamcast hooked up at the time and they work fine still. To me it all seems related to HDMI, but I'm not an expert obviously.
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This is why I always unplug all electronics when there is a storm approaching.
Intresting topic!
About Surge Protectors. They are just a glamorous "safe of mind" kind of thing. Working for Belkin Support, I can tell you these do not work. The lightning is way to powerful for any surge protector to work properly, and it's maybe by cheer luck these work. This is why Belkin have a warrenty/insurance that will cover broken equipment.
If you really wanna be safe, disconnect any electronics from the grid. Especially if you have wires that aren't dugg down underground. Remember that lightning takes the path of least resistance.
About Surge Protectors. They are just a glamorous "safe of mind" kind of thing. Working for Belkin Support, I can tell you these do not work. The lightning is way to powerful for any surge protector to work properly, and it's maybe by cheer luck these work. This is why Belkin have a warrenty/insurance that will cover broken equipment.
If you really wanna be safe, disconnect any electronics from the grid. Especially if you have wires that aren't dugg down underground. Remember that lightning takes the path of least resistance.
it's ok, it was clear, i seen there are like 3 types of UPS, and i wondered if there was a type that by technical desigh was built in a way if it detects a spike it would cut off the communication from the computer and the wall.. so if something happens to "kaput" it would be the UPS itself
i understand that if a lightning streaks into the cables directly or really close, well, there is barely a change of survival..
but by reading your post
in this article it says:
do your statement includes even the real ppower surge protected ones?
Unfortunately no
. Im going to school for electronics engineering so ive been studying this type of stuff for years (actually as far back as high school as i went to a vocational one to become an electronics technician, which of course all those jobs dont exist anymore , but i digress lol).Unfortunately no
I'm curious as to what you think about my theory that my issue was 100% related to HDMI and not the power strip.
-The 3 consoles that were connected to an HDMI splitter = dead
-Two other consoles connected to HDMI no longer output HDMI
-Two other consoles one connected with component one connected with composite are fine
Although the variable is PS4 was connected via HDMI and it's still working fully with HDMI.
I mean if it was the power strip wouldn't they all be dead as a doorknob?
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not really, all depends on how much force they got struck with, how much the electricity desperced etc. Sounds like it went through the HDMI however. If you care curious, most of the time you can follow the trail of the lightning. Might require so disassembly of the hdmi switch however.
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