Hacking Installing RGH in 2017 (some newbie questions)

force53 · Mar 28, 2017

> USB XSVF Player Initialized
> Xilinx Device ..... [NOT DETECTED]

This is what it says after trying to start programming. The JRPv2 itself was reflashed at one point with PICFLASH_E_1_0_5-JRP-V2.HEX. On free60's instructions (where they use a dev board with another Xilinx chip) they do seem to connect power to VCCio (pins 20 and 21) separately before even attaching the programming cable. Also, one PDF I found from xilinx.com says this:

"VCCIO is not required for programming of the non-volatile memory of a CoolRunner-II. However, it is strongly recommended to power VCCIO during programming. For the XC9500, XC9500XL, XC9500XV, and CoolRunner XPLA3 devices, VCCIO is required for configuration and programming".

brickmii82 · Mar 28, 2017

force53 said:
> USB XSVF Player Initialized
> Xilinx Device ..... [NOT DETECTED]

This is what it says after trying to start programming. The JRPv2 itself was reflashed at one point with PICFLASH_E_1_0_5-JRP-V2.HEX. On free60's instructions (where they use a dev board with another Xilinx chip) they do seem to connect power to VCCio (pins 20 and 21) separately before even attaching the programming cable. Also, one PDF I found from xilinx.com says this:

"VCCIO is not required for programming of the non-volatile memory of a CoolRunner-II. However, it is strongly recommended to power VCCIO during programming. For the XC9500, XC9500XL, XC9500XV, and CoolRunner XPLA3 devices, VCCIO is required for configuration and programming".

I've never had to modify the input besides soldering the wires to the Ace. Is the pin header soldered in?

force53 · Mar 28, 2017

Yes, pin headers were soldered to the JTAG pins (this was done here, out of the box it came with no headers) but no other modifications have been done to the ACE (so there's probably nothing powering VCCio because the JTAG port powers VCCaux, there was no jumper wire on the chip out of the box).

brickmii82 · Mar 28, 2017

force53 said:
Yes, pin headers were soldered to the JTAG pins (this was done here, out of the box it came with no headers) but no other modifications have been done to the ACE (so there's probably nothing powering VCCio because the JTAG port powers VCCaux, there was no jumper wire on the chip out of the box).

Mine seems fine without any modification. Bad chip maybe?
If you've updated the JRP with the 1-05 FW, and already used the JRP successfully, I don't see any other problem(but I could be wrong)

force53 · Mar 28, 2017

Your board looks slightly different, this is what we have: http://www.consoletronics.com/images/X360ace_v3.jpg (note the X360ACE V3 text is on a different place in your board and in general the layout is not the same)

I guess we'll try to program it with VCCio connected separately later and if it's still not working, try to return it.

brickmii82 · Mar 28, 2017

Here's the same board you have.
If you can't get it working, drop me a PM. If you're in the US I'll send you a Matrix chip, and you can try that instead. If you get it working just send me the Ace and I'll get in contact with Dgenx and see if he can help me troubleshoot it.

force53 · Mar 28, 2017

Nope, not in the US and I have to check but probably postal fees will be at least 10 euros to send anything there (the chip itself cost 9).

brickmii82 · Mar 28, 2017

I think you mentioned it earlier you were in the UK lol, sorry I can't help you more. Good luck though! Keep us posted on your progress!

jellybeangreen2 · Mar 29, 2017

I flashed two of these chips last summer to chip two of my trinity's and they boot instant. Great chips. So what's your actual issue, you can't program it?

force53 · Mar 29, 2017

jellybeangreen2 said:
So what's your actual issue, you can't program it?

Yeah pretty much this.

Also, right now the chip is connected to the console and it still couldn't be programmed, I just get this every time from J-Runner:
> USB XSVF Player Initialized
> Xilinx Device ..... [NOT DETECTED]

(A LED quickly blinks once on the JRP once when it does this.)

However the glitcher is certainly doing something. After powering on the Xbox it doesn't boot (not even after several minutes) but the fan speed changes now and then. I guess that's the glitcher resetting the console? After writing TRINITY_ACE.ecc to the NAND from 15432's SPEED RGH pack the fan does this thing noticeably faster but the console still never boots.

EDIT: All XSVF files I've tried to program are from "15432's timing release" pack from this page http://www.consoletronics.com/product.php?productid=180 readme.txt says "x360ace v1/v2; DGX; CR3 PRO; R-JTAG; Slim Proto"

Note that the shop page is for ACEv3, so the readme has probably just not been updated to list v3 and it's stlil compatible?

If you can upload a XSVF and Xell ECC that's supposed to be compatible with ACEv3 on Trinity for sure, then I could try to program those.

EDIT2: Also, it seems you're using J-Runner v0.3 beta 8, that's a version I haven't tried yet. beta 7 is the latest version I've found working download links for so far and auto-updating in J-Runner doesn't work. Is beta7 supposed to support Xilinx XC2C128?

force53 · Mar 29, 2017

Ok, with a parallel port programming cable just built here (schematics from http://www.logic-sunrise.com/images/images_contenu/H-Slim25.png) the chip does at least get detected correctly as a XC2C128 in Xilinx iMPACT! Erasing the chip works, but playing a XSVF file from pack I linked to earlier doesn't. It fails every time at the same point (58%). Also, the box does the fan slow down / speed up thing I described earlier even with a blank glitch chip so I guess it was the SMC or something else resetting it then.

J-Runner just crashes on the old laptop when trying to program the glitch chip via LPT (Windows says "LPT_XSVF_Player.exe" has crashed)

jellybeangreen2 · Mar 29, 2017

force53 said:
Ok, with a parallel port programming cable just built here (schematics from http://www.logic-sunrise.com/images/images_contenu/H-Slim25.png) the chip does at least get detected correctly as a XC2C128 in Xilinx iMPACT! Erasing the chip works, but playing a XSVF file from pack I linked to earlier doesn't. It fails every time at the same point (58%). Also, the box does the fan slow down / speed up thing I described earlier even with a blank glitch chip so I guess it was the SMC or something else resetting it then.

J-Runner just crashes on the old laptop when trying to program the glitch chip via LPT (Windows says "LPT_XSVF_Player.exe" has crashed)

The amount of time invested, I would just buy a genuine J programmer / nand x. I bought a nand x. And never had any issues. I actually used my mac with boot camp & the x360usb pro v2 to flash the drive too. Works first time for both. Both were genuine parts. - I would don't waste anymore time trying to write to it with that programmer in all honesty.

force53 · Mar 29, 2017

Problem is, a guaranteed to be genuine J-R Programmer v2 shipped to Finland from Modchipcentral (official TX reseller) costs almost 100 Canadian dollars (=about 70 euros). The programmer itself is reasonably priced but the shipping fees totally make this option undesirable. So if anything, I'd rather buy a premodded box which can be had for 100 euros.

But I'm not going to give up just yet on programming the chip via parallel port.

EDIT: Also, I don't think the programmer is completely borked because I did manage to make a good (4x) flash dump with it. Also, we checked with a multimeter and there is at least some activity on the JTAG I/O pins when J-Runner is trying to detect the Xilinx chip (which fails).

force53 · Mar 30, 2017

Tried another laptop, on this one J-Runner doesn't crash when using LPT programming mode. Instead, it gives a TDO mismatch error. The line XSVF line number where it errors out changes slightly every time and is also dependent on whether the ACE gets power from the Xbox as well or only from the programming cable. So I suspect the cable is bad, will have to try again when we have proper parts for it (or maybe I'll buy a premade programming cable from somewhere, those don't cost nearly as much as another JRP or a NAND-X).

brickmii82 · Mar 30, 2017

force53 said:
Tried another laptop, on this one J-Runner doesn't crash when using LPT programming mode. Instead, it gives a TDO mismatch error. The line XSVF line number where it errors out changes slightly every time and is also dependent on whether the ACE gets power from the Xbox as well or only from the programming cable. So I suspect the cable is bad, will have to try again when we have proper parts for it (or maybe I'll buy a premade programming cable from somewhere, those don't cost nearly as much as another JRP or a NAND-X).

I honestly think it's the chip. On Facebook, you can find a group called Alliance RGH. It's got members in the U.K. And either Chris Dgenx or Nigel Atkins could probably get you sorted. You can also find them on the TeamX360 forums. They do sales but also give support.

elmoemo · Mar 30, 2017

brickmii82 said:
I honestly think it's the chip. On Facebook, you can find a group called Alliance RGH. It's got members in the U.K. And either Chris Dgenx or Nigel Atkins could probably get you sorted. You can also find them on the TeamX360 forums. They do sales but also give support.

Teamx360 site is down unfortunately, loved that site. Have you a link to the Facebook group as there's a few with that name thanks

force53 · Mar 30, 2017

here somebody programs a ACE v1 chip using LPT programming in Xilinx Impact successfully. He seems to write a JED file to the chip first before using the XSVF. Anybody know where to get these JED files for ACEv3?

And yeah, the chip might be broken too (still can't program it with a slightly better made LPT cable) but I'd still like to try everything possible before getting a new one. Spending some more time on this isn't a problem but I'd rather not spend any more money if possible (maybe the seller would agree to send a new one for free if the chip is provably broken but I dunno).

I don't use facebook and TeamX360 is unfortunately down. Indeed, this page http://www.consoletronics.com/product.php?productid=180 links to there for programming instructions... web.archive.org doesn't help either.

EDIT:

Can someone describe how the ACEv3 is supposed to behave when it's installed in a Trinity box WITHOUT reprogramming first? Is it supposed to still boot the console but very slowly? (we did wait a few minutes) Should the led on the center of the Xbox power button be flashing red and green or only green when it's trying to boot? (here it was flashing green only)

EDIT 2:

Also, can someone post an installation diagram for ACEv3 on Trinity? We seriously could not find even one working link to a picture with it so we had to go by a Youtube video, this one specifically:

brickmii82 · Mar 30, 2017

elmoemo said:
Teamx360 site is down unfortunately, loved that site. Have you a link to the Facebook group as there's a few with that name thanks

https://www.facebook.com/groups/ALLIANCERGHSUPPORT/

Where can I upload the SRGH pack to link here? Or can I just upload directly? Or is it considered warez and against the rules?

...... https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B19jokMe8WOLSy03b3NuU3g2SVU/view?usp=sharing

Also remember that the Ace is a 5V chip like the CR4, so the 3.3V point usually used wont work.

force53 · Mar 30, 2017

brickmii82 said:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/ALLIANCERGHSUPPORT/

Where can I upload the SRGH pack to link here? Or can I just upload directly? Or is it considered warez and against the rules?

...... https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B19jokMe8WOLSy03b3NuU3g2SVU/view?usp=sharing

Also remember that the Ace is a 5V chip like the CR4, so the 3.3V point usually used wont work.

Well, like I said, I don't even have a FB account currently and would prefer not to make one. Thanks for the files, will try those later. Photo / diagram of a working ACEv3 install on Trinity would still be appreciated so we can doublecheck the wiring. Also useful would be information on what's exactly supposed to happen when the chip is installed in a Trinity without reprogramming (we did this after JRPv2 failed to detect the chip at all but before erasing and trying to reprogram via LPT). This would help to diagnose whether the ACE is broken.

(also I'm not an admin or moderator here but I'd imagine there's no problem with sharing JED/XSVF files since they don't contain anything Microsoft owns rights to, SMC/NAND images on the other hand may contain MS code)

jellybeangreen2 · Apr 1, 2017

force53 said:
Well, like I said, I don't even have a FB account currently and would prefer not to make one. Thanks for the files, will try those later. Photo / diagram of a working ACEv3 install on Trinity would still be appreciated so we can doublecheck the wiring. Also useful would be information on what's exactly supposed to happen when the chip is installed in a Trinity without reprogramming (we did this after JRPv2 failed to detect the chip at all but before erasing and trying to reprogram via LPT). This would help to diagnose whether the ACE is broken.

(also I'm not an admin or moderator here but I'd imagine there's no problem with sharing JED/XSVF files since they don't contain anything Microsoft owns rights to, SMC/NAND images on the other hand may contain MS code)

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