Gaming I think BoTW takes place AoL, here's why

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But the problem with that is that Twilight Princess occurs in the Child Timeline and not in the "Hero Defeated" timeline. And there's a gigantic mention of Twilight Princess when Zelda was appointing Link as her knight.
That is true. It does make reference to the Twilight timeline.

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lmao rekt.
Lol your point was still dumb because both TLs are still after Ocarina. :rofl2:
 

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Exactly, and the timeline is "Hero is defeated"
LOL no it's not go get all the damned memories it confirms it's AFTER TP.

this is a direct quote from one of the memories READ IT

"Whether skyward bound (ss), adrift in time (oot), or steeped in the glowing embers of twilight (TP!).
 
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LOL no it's not go get all the damned memories it confirms it's AFTER TP.
I agree now that it must be on the TP timeline, based on what was just mentioned a couple posts ago about references to TP. But just saying, the TP timeline is still after Ocarina events.
They said this game takes place after ocarina of time. I'm saying based on what I saw in game, that's bullshit.
 

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I agree now that it must be on the TP timeline, based on what was just mentioned a couple posts ago about references to TP. But just saying, the TP timeline is still after Ocarina events.
If you go back and actually read the rest of what I was talking about there, you'll see that I think the plot of this game is terrible. My opinion and facts are 2 separate things, stop trying to lump them together in a desperate attempt to take a shot at me. You lost. Go to bed already, kid.
 

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It also mentions nabooru when defeating the devine beast that's like a camel saying she was a legend in gerudo. Urbosa also says ganon once adopted the appearance of a gerudo. It's definitely after oot
 

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That is true. It does make reference to the Twilight timeline.

In the "Hero Defeated" timeline, there was a war called the "Sealing War" and it was also when Hyrule was declining. In that war, since Link was defeated during the events in OoT, the sages had to seal Ganon however they can to stop him from growing in power. Which leads up to "A Link to the Past".

But there's also another thing that shows BotW isn't in the "Hero Defeated" timeline. In the Child timeline, Ganon had a physical body. However, in BotW, Ganon was just made up of malice and he was trying to reincarnate himself into one of the Giant Ancient weapon bodies (The Ganon Blights) that was mentioned in Zelda's diary in her studies when she tried to find them beneath Hyrule Castle, but couldn't. Anyway, since Ganon was trying to reincarnate himself with an actual body, it means that he never had a physical body in the events coming up to BotW. Which is why I think that after Ganondorf was killed at the end of TP, his malice appeared in Hyrule at some point and was sealed by a different Link and Zelda in a different point in time which was 10,000 years before BotW. Luckily, they were prepared as the people (most likely the Sheikah) created the Guardians and Divine Beasts, controlled by the four Champions, to aid the princess and the hero into defeating and sealing Ganon.

Well, that's what I think, because there aren't any games that show a trace of any of the Guardians and while Skyward Sword does have similarities of that "technology" in those ancient robots, they weren't built by the Sheikah and they existed way before Skyward Sword when the Sheikah haven't came to be, yet. So I think BotW is set very far into the future of the Child timeline and in the gap from TP to BotW, there was an event where the Guardians, Divine Beasts, Champions, and whatnot came to be.
 
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and here's the final proof it's after TP look at the tp map notice the desert and mount lanayru are the same in botw (desert and ice). the botw map is just way bigger. plus remember A LOT can change in 10000 years like castletown getting wiped out by the guardians.
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In the "Hero Defeated" timeline, there was a war called the "Sealing War" and it was also when Hyrule was declining. In that war, since Link was defeated during the events in OoT, the sages had to seal Ganon however they can to stop him from growing in power. Which leads up to "A Link to the Past".

But there's also another thing that shows BotW isn't in the "Hero Defeated" timeline. In the Child timeline, Ganon had a physical body. However, in BotW, Ganon was just made up of malice and he was trying to reincarnate himself into one of the Giant Ancient weapon bodies (The Ganon Blights) that was mentioned in Zelda's diary in her studies when she tried to find them beneath Hyrule Castle, but couldn't. Anyway, since Ganon was trying to reincarnate himself with an actual body, it means that he never had a physical body in the events coming up to BotW. Which is why I think that after Ganondorf was killed at the end of TP, his malice appeared in Hyrule at some point and was sealed by a different Link and Zelda in a different point in time which was 10,000 years before BotW. Luckily, they were prepared as the people (most likely the Sheikah) created the Guardians and Divine Beasts, controlled by the four Champions, to aid the princess and the hero into defeating and sealing Ganon.

Well, that's what I think, because there aren't any games that show a trace of any of the Guardians and while Skyward Sword does have similarities of that "technology" in those ancient robots, they weren't built by the Sheikah and they existed way before Skyward Sword when the Sheikah haven't came to be, yet. So I think BotW is set very far into the future of the Child timeline.
I agree with you. I honestly forgot about the TP references.
 

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Seriously? I just quoted it..
Again, you're taking it out of context. In my opinion the plot in this game doesn't make sense for any timeline. The official statement is that it takes place after oot. I even mentioned both in the very quote you posted TWICE now. Just because I think the plot is poorly written, doesn't make what the creators of the game say not a fact. Honestly, you're just flailing around for anything you can use to discredit me at this point. Little funny, little sad.
 

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Again, you're taking it out of context. In my opinion the plot in this game doesn't make sense for any timeline. The official statement is that it takes place after oot. I even mentioned both in the very quote you posted TWICE now. Just because I think the plot is poorly written, doesn't make what the creators of the game say not a fact. Honestly, you're just flailing around for anything you can use to discredit me at this point. Little funny, little sad.
You are so twisted that you can't even take pasts quotes of what you said as facts. You're the one who needs to grow up or go to bed.
 

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Again, you're taking it out of context. In my opinion the plot in this game doesn't make sense for any timeline. The official statement is that it takes place after oot. I even mentioned both in the very quote you posted TWICE now. Just because I think the plot is poorly written, doesn't make what the creators of the game say not a fact. Honestly, you're just flailing around for anything you can use to discredit me at this point. Little funny, little sad.
You are so twisted that you can't even take past quotes of what you said as facts. You're the one who needs to grow up or go to bed.
 

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You are so twisted that you can't even take past quotes of what you said as facts. You're the one who needs to grow up or go to bed.
Again, it has already been officially stated that the game takes place after Ocarina of Time. Check the Link in my post on the previous page.
Why would I be saying things like this to people if I didn't take the official statement as fact? What the developers say goes, bottom line. Doesn't mean I'm not allowed to think they did a shit job making it fit in. Fun that you took the time to go back several pages and find a quote, just for the sole purpose of discrediting me. Not even related to the argument currently at hand. I must have made you maaaaaaad. ;) Keep grasping at those straws, kiddo.
 

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Why would I be saying things like this to people if I didn't take the official statement as fact? What the developers say goes, bottom line. Doesn't mean I'm not allowed to think they did a shit job making it fit in. Fun that you took the time to go back several pages and find a quote, just for the sole purpose of discrediting me. Not even related to the argument currently at hand. I must have made you maaaaaaad. ;) Keep grasping at those straws, kiddo.
Not my fault if the way you said it made it sound like you were disagreeing with it. Learn how to communicate your arguments better in that case.
 

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Not my fault if the way you said it made it sound like you were disagreeing with it. Learn how to communicate your arguments better in that case.
Oh, you're right. You not understanding English is my fault. You took a single sentence and took it as-is without taking into account literally EVERYTHING else I have been saying this entire time. Admit it. You're mad you were wrong and you're just trying to take shots at me at this point. None of this has anything to do with the rest of the conversation. I'm not continuing this any further, I don't know what I was thinking responding in the first place. This argument is asinine. I honestly hope a mod cleans this trash off this thread.
 

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Oh, you're right. You not understanding English is my fault. You took a single sentence and took it as-is without taking into account literally EVERYTHING else I have been saying this entire time. Admit it. You're mad you were wrong and you're just trying to take shots at me at this point. None of this has anything to do with the rest of the conversation. I'm not continuing this any further, I don't know what I was thinking responding in the first place. This argument is asinine. I honestly hope a mod cleans this trash off this thread.
You keep saying I'm mad, but you seem to be the one who's mad.
 

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personally i think it is in a completely new timeline, a form of union timeline. there may have been a point before the hundred year slumber where the three timelines merge. proof is that, most notable features of the three timelines are present,like the rito and koroks from the adult timeline, the sea zora from the child timeline, and the desolation from the downfall timeline.
 
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personally i think it is in a completely new timeline, a form of union timeline. there may have been a point before the hundred year slumber where the three timelines merge. proof is that, most notable features of the three timelines are present,like the rito and koroks from the adult timeline, the sea zora from the child timeline, and the desolation from the downfall timeline.

Yeah it is possible, It would be convenient for nintendo.
Maybe Ganon had to somehow merge the timelines to get fully reincarnated again 10 000 years ago? I mean it would not be the first time he messes with dimensions, sacred realms and stuff.

The game do reffer to many things from all three timelines. A timeline-merge would explain it beautifully. And it would allow for nintendo to take bit's and peices from any game they want.
 

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Eiji Aonuma: "We created the Rito as the evolved form of the Zora that appeared in "Ocarina of Time""

So how is it possible that Zora and Rito are existing side by side, And if this takes place after TP how is it that there are so many Gerudo? The Gerudo were gone in TP.
The Kokoroks i can kinda see in any timeline as the kokiri turn into a kokorok if he/she leaves the kokiri forest. (or atleast I think so)
And also where did all the Sheikah come from? Did Impaz start some kinda inbreeding project to ressurect his tribe? xD

The only logical explanations I could think of is that the time-lines were somehow merged or some kind of time compression Final Fantasy VIII style.
Or this Hyrule is in a parallel universe where history played out a little bit differently.
Or why dont we just mix all the explanations.

Something like this: Breath of the Wild takes place in a parallel universe where the Sheikah and Gerudo never went "poof gone".
The Ocarina of Time battle with Ganon still happened and so did the timesplits, however in order for Ganon to fully ressurect and make sure he wasnt beaten again he had to merge the
timelines and compress the time so to merge himself with all his previous reincarnations and thus becoming (super saiyan god) super saiyan fusion Ganon.
However he could not complete his transformation and got stuck in his Non-Physical form Calamity Ganon.

Im just messing around haha
 

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Eiji Aonuma: "We created the Rito as the evolved form of the Zora that appeared in "Ocarina of Time""

So how is it possible that Zora and Rito are existing side by side

In the same way humans and monkeys live at the same time? Just because some Zora evolved into Rito over time doesn't mean Zora are gone. In fact, in Wind Waker the sage of Earth, Laruto, is a Zora and was only killed recently in the game due to Ganondorf's shennanigans, implying Zora are still there. Combined with existence of Koroks it does point to the Wind Waker (or "Adult Link") timeline.

There is one thing in this game that actually completely denies it being Twilight Princess ("Kid Link") timeline. You can find Mirror of Twilight in the game. It's broken into pieces due to an Earthquake. Now, if this game was to take place before Twilight Princess, the mirror would have to be in one piece - it was Zant who broke it using Ganondorf's power. As for after Twilight Princess? Midna utterly shatters it at the end of the game. This means it MUST be a different time.

And here come the fallen hero timeline. So basically most of the 2D Zelda games. Which seem to have two things in common, Gorons don't exist (with exception of Oracle games for some weird reason) in them and Zora are monsters. It would seem that something happened that eradicated Gorons and turned the Zora (and perhaps had them evolve due to much different look?) against Hylians. That would point that this also isn't BotW's timeline.
 

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personally i think it is in a completely new timeline, a form of union timeline. there may have been a point before the hundred year slumber where the three timelines merge
that just is NOT possible i don't know wht people keep thinking that. that's NOT how time works!

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Yeah it is possible
no it isn't!
 

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