Gaming Zelda BOTW - Low-res textures?

Adrian DX · Feb 28, 2017

So USB vs. NAND makes no difference when it comes to framerate?
I've not noticed anything wrong with the textures, but as others have mentioned, the framerate is absolutely horrendous in certain spots (Very noticably in Kakariko)

morrissey2k7 · Feb 28, 2017

I don't know if the OP got a different copy than I did, because I think it looks even better than I was expecting it would (light years better than what we saw at E3, which seems to be the footage they keep using in the Wii U/Switch comparison vids). I have experienced some frame drops moving from one area to another, or when there's a lot of action going on onscreen, but nothing that too frustrating. I think the game looks gorgeous, and super impressive considering the Wii U's specs.

ov3rkill · Feb 28, 2017

https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=YQbkBlpJX24

A nice comparison between the Wii U and Switch version of BotW.

Soupy_Soup · Feb 28, 2017

Completely agree with op, looks terrible. I need to see pictures from people who say that their game looks good, I'd like to kknow if we just have different standards of "good". This is my experience so far: http://m.imgur.com/uSjISv5,TOa4XQP,0bP73Bh,OfQRUMt,IvLuDyE
Maybe the problem is that my game is installed to a usb drive? Should I try installing it to system memory? Also, people whose game looks good, please tell me where you got the files, maybe mine are corrupted or compressed or whatever, I don't know.

naddel81 · Feb 28, 2017

thaikhoa said:
The game looks gorgeous on my 4K 55" TV, the performance is excellent without any drop on fps so far

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thats not really true. I measured FPS to be anything between 31 and 10!

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Noctosphere said:
mine has no problem with graphics quality but has notable framerate drop very often

we all have since we all play the SAME game!

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Soupy_Soup said:
Completely agree with op, looks terrible. I need to see pictures from people who say that their game looks good, I'd like to kknow if we just have different standards of "good". This is my experience so far: http://m.imgur.com/uSjISv5,TOa4XQP,0bP73Bh,OfQRUMt,IvLuDyE
Maybe the problem is that my game is installed to a usb drive? Should I try installing it to system memory? Also, people whose game looks good, please tell me where you got the files, maybe mine are corrupted or compressed or whatever, I don't know.

you can try whatever you want. you won't get anything sharper than now from the Wii U version. and even the switch does not feature HD textures. so you have to live with it.

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morrissey2k7 said:
I don't know if the OP got a different copy than I did, because I think it looks even better than I was expecting it would (light years better than what we saw at E3, which seems to be the footage they keep using in the Wii U/Switch comparison vids). I have experienced some frame drops moving from one area to another, or when there's a lot of action going on onscreen, but nothing that too frustrating. I think the game looks gorgeous, and super impressive considering the Wii U's specs.

exactly what I have seen so far. graphics are OK for Wii U. world is huge. and framerate is playable, not super smooth. all in all it is a typical nintendo game from the technical POV.

Kourin · Feb 28, 2017

Is your Wii U plugged in with a HDMI cable or RGB cables?

naddel81 · Feb 28, 2017

Kourin said:
Is your Wii U plugged in with a HDMI cable or RGB cables?

lol.... best question so far!

DarkCrudus · Feb 28, 2017

trigao said:
for those who are playing already... its compatible with pro controller or gamepad exclusive?

you can play with pro controller

naddel81 · Feb 28, 2017

DarkCrudus said:
you can play with pro controller

only PRO controller (Wii U obviously) or gamepad. not other controller type is supported, unfortunately. and the gamepad isn't even used efficiently as in wind waker HD. very disappointing.

Soupy_Soup · Feb 28, 2017

naddel81 said:
thats not really true. I measured FPS to be anything between 31 and 10!

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we all have since we all play the SAME game!

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you can try whatever you want. you won't get anything sharper than now from the Wii U version. and even the switch does not feature HD textures. so you have to live with it.

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exactly what I have seen so far. graphics are OK for Wii U. world is huge. and framerate is playable, not super smooth. all in all it is a typical nintendo game from the technical POV.

Typical? I don't know, I've never seen jaggies like this in a nintendo game, not since the n64. The textures I can live with, but what the hell is wrong with the anti-aliasing? Never looked like this in any gameplay videos

fatsquirrel · Feb 28, 2017

You are complaining about the game you stole? Shit, that's a whole new level of stupid.

naddel81 · Feb 28, 2017

Soupy_Soup said:
Typical? I don't know, I've never seen jaggies like this in a nintendo game, not since the n64. The textures I can live with, but what the hell is wrong with the anti-aliasing? Never looked like this in any gameplay videos

you have never seen jaggies in an ninty game? I feel bad for either your eye-vision or your bad TVs you play on.
Ninty games have always had jaggies. look at the 3DS!
N64 was the first console to release 3D graphics in Nintendo games and therefore the first to NOT use any form of anti aliasing because it was too demanding back then for the hardware. and yes: they all had jaggies if you had a large/good TV and a good eye-vision!

If you cannot see jaggies here, it is because your cable blurs the shit out of the image:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9a5brhIcAA2kdp.jpg:large

fatsquirrel · Feb 28, 2017

Soupy_Soup said:
Typical? I don't know, I've never seen jaggies like this in a nintendo game, not since the n64. The textures I can live with, but what the hell is wrong with the anti-aliasing? Never looked like this in any gameplay videos

you need to move on from this tv set mate

KingpinSlim · Feb 28, 2017

Kourin said:
Is your Wii U plugged in with a HDMI cable or RGB cables?

HDMI. Obviously.

naddel81 · Feb 28, 2017

fatsquirrel said:
you need to move on from this tv set mate

that was exactly my thought when I read that noobish post of his.
Ninty games not having jaggies..... made my day!

SonicMC · Feb 28, 2017

fatsquirrel said:
Dear lord, you do realize that SSD has no effect because the usb on the WiiU is a ''massive'' bottleneck?

Well people complained like crazy about batman arkham something on WiiU how unplayable it is with the low fps. I played through it not even noticing anything. So Im rather skeptic

I will politely disagree that the ssd will have no effect. When loading large files of a game. I can see that a hdd will run as fast as an ssd. Throughput will be limited by both devices by the usb/wii u bottleneck. When loading small files is when the ssd should shine. Lower seek time gets the data faster. Which could make it show up faster in game.

I have an older 500gb HDD and my brother has an ssd. There is a difference on how fast the icons from the USB get loaded on the system menu.
It may be just cause my HDD is a bit older; and a newer HDD would have much better seek times. All I know is that I believe that it can make a difference and does make small difference for me vs my brother. I have no real idea on breath of the wild; but a small guess, since it is 13 gb including the update. I would guess that if small files are rerouted to the update and some are taken straight from the game files; that they may not be optimized for usb hdd loading which means the drive head has to keep switching where to get data from. If this is true; then a ssd could be helpful, especially for small files; regardless of how lousy the wii u throughput is; if seektime is slowing things down further, then seektime is more important than throughput.

interesting video:

fatsquirrel · Feb 28, 2017

SonicMC said:
I will politely disagree that the ssd will have no effect. When loading large files of a game. I can see that a hdd will run as fast as an ssd. Throughput will be limited by both devices by the usb/wii u bottleneck. When loading small files is when the ssd should shine. Lower seek time gets the data faster. Which could make it show up faster in game.

I have an older 500gb HDD and my brother has an ssd. There is a difference on how fast the icons from the USB get loaded on the system menu.
It may be just cause my HDD is a bit older; and a newer HDD would have much better seek times. All I know is that I believe that it can make a difference and does make small difference for me vs my brother. I have no real idea on breath of the wild; but a small guess, since it is 13 gb including the update. I would guess that if small files are rerouted to the update and some are taken straight from the game files; that they may not be optimized for usb hdd loading which means the drive head has to keep switching where to get data from. If this is true; then a ssd could be helpful, especially for small files; regardless of how lousy the wii u throughput is; if seektime is slowing things down further, then seektime is more important than throughput.

interesting video:

Odd video. Internal memory will almost always if not always be faster than the external device.
Also if you noticed theres basically no difference in speed between optical ssd hdd and internal memory on the video :/

It doesnt matter how much faster the hdd or sdd is because the usb on wiiu is slower than the standard USB2 which is already SHIT slow decades old interface.
In my opinion at least. Im not a technician though

Edit: theres really not many small files in the game directories

kumikochan · Feb 28, 2017

Botw looks fine to me. Been playing it on a 4K tv but stopped playing after i went to kakariko village since i'm gonna play it on my switch on Friday so i don't want to spoil 2 much for myself.
Kakariko village seems to have drops till 10 - 15 fps. Sometimes even lower.
Also for the people complaining that it has no AA ? Nintendo doesn't know what AA is since i've never seen them use proper AA.
Even Switch games as seen from gameplay vids don't use AA.
Botw looks fine to me on the Wii U just that the framedrops are horrible and make it unplayable at times.

nolimits59 · Feb 28, 2017

kumikochan said:
Botw looks fine to me. Been playing it on a 4K tv but stopped playing after i went to kakariko village since i'm gonna play it on my switch on Friday so i don't want to spoil 2 much for myself.
Kakariko village seems to have drops till 10 - 15 fps. Sometimes even lower.
Also for the people complaining that it has no AA ? Nintendo doesn't know what AA is since i've never seen them use proper AA.
Even Switch games as seen from gameplay vids don't use AA.
Botw looks fine to me on the Wii U just that the framedrops are horrible and make it unplayable at times.

And the plot twist: the game is 90% identical to the switch version, textures included.

But guys, believe me, that game is more playable than hyrule warriors on O3DS...

See that compare a guy did with the WiiU leak from yesterday comapred to switch version.
It's the SAME game x), just some shaders differs.

kumikochan · Feb 28, 2017

nolimits59 said:
And the plot twist: the game is 90% identical to the switch version, textures included.

But guys, believe me, that game is more playable than hyrule warriors on O3DS...

See that compare a guy did with the WiiU leak from yesterday comapred to switch version.
It's the SAME game x), just some shaders differs.

Yeah true but i see a lot more jaggies in the Wii U version tho in the distance.
But if it's truly the same then fuck Nintendo because that's some false advertisment they did !
I hope that there's gonna be a big difference tho. We'll see on Friday

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