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There's still the CPU drop in portable mode (assuming that's what happens), which is responsible for much of the game logic.
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I can comment on how opinions differ. Maybe the controls aren't great for me; I don't know yet. But the fact remains that there are quite a number of reviews out there that do state that the controls can take time to get used to but are great after you adjust to them. You see, there exist people whose opinions do not match your own. No one person is the embodiment of objectivity and thus such opinions and preferences fall under the umbrella of subjectivity. You not liking the controls does not make them objectively bad.
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but that isnt a big issue nowdays (from what I understand?) cause when you buy a gaming rig you dont really care about CPU (just that it wont suck thats all the requirements) but you do care about GPU... maybe Im wrong? or consoles are diffrent? please correct me in that case...
So then are you agreeing that dual-analog shooters should not exist because it takes time to get used to them the first time you play them? Maybe we should have the "Grandma" test where every new game is put into the hands of a grandmother who's never played video games before and see if the controls are intuitive to her. Can't risk the experiment being thrown off by putting in an experienced gamer who's already gone through the growing pains of learning some control schemes.
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but think about how great this game would be if the controls would be more intuitive... think how much better would it be if you would just enjoy the fun of the game without having to get used to the damn controls. ppl use a joystick only as an extension of themselves, as something that translate their wishes to the game. if there would be a way to play a game without the controller ppl would use it. and as an extension, it should be as seemless as possible to give the feeling that youre really the character inside the game, not the stupid ass that cant get used to those stupid controls.
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I agree partially. because if the dual anolog controllers dont give the player any advantages then they would be better off not used in a game. they grant you the possibility that cant be achieved without them, thats why ppl use them... and BTW im not gonna spend time to "get used to" the dual anolog sticks to play shooters because Im good with mouse and keyboard, and spending time mastering something thats not needed is pretty stupid... (I use the controllers in some games, more in slow paced ones and non-first-person ones)
The controller becomes an extension of yourself through experience. It's how the brain works. You give it something new and it takes some time to figure out as it makes neural connections until the new thing has become another extension of the brain. You give Grandma a controller, she won't make heads or tails of it because she hasn't used one before. Over time, though, she will adjust.
Just because your brain hasn't already set the neuro pathways for a particular control scheme does not make that control scheme inferior. It very well can be a superior control scheme once you adjust to it (see again: the dual-analog shooter control; took time to get used to after playing games such as Goldeneye and Perfect Dark, but in the end it was a superior control scheme after the brain adjusted).
Pretty much every game you play on a controller was, at one point, unintuitive. As you played video games for a long time, you became familiar with controllers and control schemes. Just because you are now familiar with certain control schemes it does not make those control schemes superior; it just means you are already experienced with them.
I see this as a double edged sword. Should touch only games exist? Sure. There's a good handful of touch only (or touch-centric) games out there. The scary question is: will nintendo take this idea and run with it, making the switch into a pay-to-win cheap ass mobile game ports console? Apart from instances where a mobile game could be deemed worthy of being on console, if nintendo opens the door for games like candy crush, farmville and the many shitty game of war type mobile games, it will not be a good move. I prefer touch as an option, not as a forced control scheme.
TL/DR: Mobile games are NOT what we mean when we say we want continued 3rd party support. DON'T FUCKIN DO IT NINTENDO!!!
TL/DR: Mobile games are NOT what we mean when we say we want continued 3rd party support. DON'T FUCKIN DO IT NINTENDO!!!
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my grandma plays FPS so thats a bad example LOL
but anywho if the controls are BAD then it will take too much time to adjust to, which may make more ppl ragequite. when you start playing titanfall after the last game you played was CS some years ago, you dont need to adjust all your brain, you just jump right into the game. no need to get used to the controls. theres a reason why mosta FPSs use similar control scheme..
if you would have to choose a control scheme you're used to or a new one, you would choose the first one unless the new one will give you advantages. if it doesnt have any, then it IS inferior.
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cant see the connection between being cheep ass mobile device and having touch controls. there are plenty of games that are great that will benefit from touch, but there are plenty of platforms with lame games that dont have touch controls (go see the old-j2me phones)
People like to complain without reasons.
Let the reasons come first (and sure they will come) and then complain.
Touch controls could be great for many type of games when used right, so wait for the PoS implementations before complaining.
There is still a 0.1% probability the touch games that will (ever?) be released are fucking great.
Let the reasons come first (and sure they will come) and then complain.
Touch controls could be great for many type of games when used right, so wait for the PoS implementations before complaining.
There is still a 0.1% probability the touch games that will (ever?) be released are fucking great.
Well I'd already in a previous post specified an inexperienced grandma :/
Anyways, as for giving advantages, Star Fox Zero decouples your blaster fire from your flight allowing you to aim places other than straight-forward. And using the gyro for this allows you to use your fine motor skills for pinpoint precision.
It is confirmed that not all games will work in Tv mode.
Some games that use the touchscreen will only work in handheld mode and won't use Tv-mode.
1 game that is confirmed to not use Tv mode is Voez.
Some games that use the touchscreen will only work in handheld mode and won't use Tv-mode.
1 game that is confirmed to not use Tv mode is Voez.
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Don't worry, it'll be like what George Carlin said about abortion.
("Have you noticed that most of the women who are against abortion are women you wouldn't want to fuck in the first place?")
I wonder if they'll consider creating games for Portrait play only now. I had floated this idea a few months ago (along with a few other ideas) for a possible adapter to connect to a Joycon port:
The image I used was Mario Run, which obviously wouldn't even need a special controller. But if the right game came along for portrait mode that also was more intensive than just needing the touch screen to play, then I'd hope they'd consider such an attachment, especially since now we know that games don't have to be playable in docked mode if the gameplay calls for it.
The image I used was Mario Run, which obviously wouldn't even need a special controller. But if the right game came along for portrait mode that also was more intensive than just needing the touch screen to play, then I'd hope they'd consider such an attachment, especially since now we know that games don't have to be playable in docked mode if the gameplay calls for it.
I'm sure having some decent games from mobile only may attract some causal players which may help sales, there are quite a few games I hope get ported like Voez has. Idolm@ster Cinderella Girls: Starlight Stage and Mobius Final Fantasy, although mobius ff does have controller controls on pc so if those controls get brought over, which they should if it gets ported, then that should allow it to also be a tv mode game unlike Idolm@aster's. Both being some of the higher quality games on mobile in my opinion.
Ehh, kinda bad looking but i'm sure it could work out with a better design maybe.I wonder if they'll consider creating games for Portrait play only now. I had floated this idea a few months ago (along with a few other ideas) for a possible adapter to connect to a Joycon port:
The image I used was Mario Run, which obviously wouldn't even need a special controller. But if the right game came along for portrait mode that also was more intensive than just needing the touch screen to play, then I'd hope they'd consider such an attachment, especially since now we know that games don't have to be playable in docked mode if the gameplay calls for it.
I just wana take a moment to say that there are some people who like Superman 64 XD
Naa, I get the point, not too bad for a quick mock up but I think it could work if executed correctly. Not to bad of a quick job XD
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