Hacking So i have A "NEW" 3DS XL - Can i Mod it - 11.3.0-36 - Just Wanna Play Back Ups

Distrance · Feb 22, 2017

owek1 said:
Goodluck finding one on a lower firmware, with reasonable price and excellent condition.

Finally, the last option is to wait... sooner or later, 11.3 will be downgradeable and you dont have to worry everything above that i mentioned.

We have no idea how long it will take for 11.3 to be hackable, and you have to always consider the possibility that it won't.

Also nowhere they sell consoles bundled with 11.3 yet so obtaining one on 11.2 is very easy.

@ZootedLoot Just sell that one, buy a new one, then hack it using the 3ds guide. Once hacked, you can update to 11.3, play games online and so much more. Sky 3ds is not only expensive but very limited in what it lets you do.. Why buy it if you have a choice?

nechigawara · Feb 22, 2017

Dario_Darioso said:
just wait some months...

owek1 said:
Finally, the last option is to wait... sooner or later, 11.3 will be downgradeable and you dont have to worry everything above that i mentioned.

I don't think finding another arm9 exploit is that easy.
We already found 6 since 2011, and all of them has been patch or removed (except A9LH with FIRM0/1 Protection).
arm11 exploit is useless for hacking since you can't install old version of system cia anymore.
Also, with NFIRM patch, unless we found the way to downgrade both NFIRM and home menu at the same time,
Both hardmod & DSiware are useless.

The only hope I saw is DSiware tool with ability to downgrade whole FW or doing CTRNand transfer.
But, I don't see anything stable about them right now.
Like @Distrance said, we have to always consider the possibility that it won't.

LichbannMejolaro · Feb 22, 2017

I just hope it doesn't get like Vita where users above 3.60 have no hopes for hacking anymore.

The Catboy · Feb 22, 2017

If you are on 11.3, you are better off selling the system and buying a new one.

owek1 · Feb 22, 2017

nechigawara said:
I don't think finding another arm9 exploit is that easy.
We already found 6 since 2011, and all of them has been patch (except A9LH with FIRM0/1 Protection).
arm11 exploit is useless for hacking since you can't install old version of system cia anymore.
Also, with NFIRM patch, unless we found the way to downgrade both NFIRM and home menu at the same time,
Both hardmod & DSiware are useless.

The only hope I saw is DSiware tool with ability to downgrade whole FW or doing CTRNand transfer.
But, I don't see anything stable about them right now.
Like @Distrance said, we have to always consider the possibility that it won't.

i agree it is possible where one day Nintendo will manage to patch all exploit/cfw/hax.. i just pray that our already hacked consoles now would last me at least 10 more years or until PCs could perfectly emulate 3DS games in the future.. That's why i start purchasing games that in my opinion are worth keeping/playing just in case that happens which i hope not..im already too spoiled with all the goodies , freedom of homebrew/cfw..

TankedThomas · Feb 22, 2017

So you want to pirate games while making stupid HIV jokes and not being able to find basic information. Got it. No one cares what you've modded before, and no one cares that you have the search engine skills of a chimpanzee (seriously, if you Google "hack 3DS", the first two links tell you exactly what you can and can't do, and how to do it).

Either wait or sell your 3DS. Either way, we don't need fifty threads about this bullshit on a daily basis just because script kiddies want to pirate games.

LichbannMejolaro · Feb 22, 2017

TCJJ said:
So you want to pirate games while making stupid HIV jokes and not being able to find basic information. Got it. No one cares what you've modded before, and no one cares that you have the search engine skills of a chimpanzee (seriously, if you Google "hack 3DS", the first two links tell you exactly what you can and can't do, and how to do it).

Either wait or sell your 3DS. Either way, we don't need fifty threads about this bullshit on a daily basis just because script kiddies want to pirate games.

Calm down mate, you live in the best country in the whole fucking world. There is no need to be this nervous.

TankedThomas · Feb 22, 2017

LichbannMejolaro said:
But good/functional R4s are much more expensive, I think.

I bought a R4i3d recently and it didn't work on 11.2.

People recommend a lot the DSTWO, but its about 60 USD.

DSTWO loves to drain your battery and isn't really worth the price. The R4i Gold 3DS is the best option because it's relatively cheap and has all the functionality you'll need. I got one from the same site that @PrometheusG. suggested and it works perfectly. Just make sure you follow the instructions on how to pay them carefully else they could end up getting their PayPal account revoked and you could end up losing out on your card (basically, you have to do it without adding any transaction details, and they'll match the order to your email address, but do follow their instructions).

LichbannMejolaro said:
I just hope it doesn't get like Vita where users above 3.60 have no hopes for hacking anymore.

It won't. At the very least, sighax is on the way (eventually).

Besides, the Vita isn't hack-proof just because it was updated, but the Vita hacking scene is small and slow, and the Vita is a rather complicated system. Later firmwares will be hacked eventually, but it could be the minutes or ten years from now. We just don't know.

LichbannMejolaro said:
Calm down mate, you live in the best country in the whole fucking world. There is no need to be this nervous.

The best country in the world? Yeah, right, sure. And I'm the King of England.

I'm not nervous, kid, and I'm perfectly calm. Piracy is illegal. I won't ever tell people not to pirate, nor will I condone it, but asking people to help you pirate stuff is a great way to get a lot of people in trouble.
However, I - like many others - are sick of stupid-ass threads rehashing the same nonsense over and over again just because people can't do a simple search.

Urbanshadow · Feb 22, 2017

ZootedLoot said:
okay so ill Prob Catch Hell cuz this has probably been asked 1k times +1, but ive looked and every time ive googled it, it always gives me regular 3ds mods and stuff and i dont know it those will work. None

I have modded The PS2, PS3, And the Wii Great. and started on the PSP but i need to wait for a part im to lazy to get to see if my screen is.... never mind it doesnt matter Nope it don't

anyway, from what i can tell, i think a flash card would be the best thing for me Yes, but im almost HIV positive this pun is bad that you cant use it with out anything being done to my system first Sky3ds works in 11.3, although ive been wrong before and now

Basically what i want to do is be able to play my Backups, 3ds & DS Fine. for pretty much everything else i have a computer and my modded wii Great

so if you all can point me in the right direction Already did, without giving me TOO much crap that would be great Done, by telling me what i need or if it just isnt possible with what im working with Ok

Thanks,
ZootedLoot

Feedback in bold. 0% bullshit.

LichbannMejolaro · Feb 22, 2017

TCJJ said:
DSTWO loves to drain your battery and isn't really worth the price. The R4i Gold 3DS is the best option because it's relatively cheap and has all the functionality you'll need. I got one from the same site that @PrometheusG. suggested and it works perfectly. Just make sure you follow the instructions on how to pay them carefully else they could end up getting their PayPal account revoked and you could end up losing out on your card (basically, you have to do it without adding any transaction details, and they'll match the order to your email address, but do follow their instructions).

It won't. At the very least, sighax is on the way (eventually).

Besides, the Vita isn't hack-proof just because it was updated, but the Vita hacking scene is small and slow, and the Vita is a rather complicated system. Later firmwares will be hacked eventually, but it could be the minutes or ten years from now. We just don't know.

The best country in the world? Yeah, right, sure. And I'm the King of England.

I'm not nervous, kid, and I'm perfectly calm. Piracy is illegal. I won't ever tell people not to pirate, nor will I condone it, but asking people to help you pirate stuff is a great way to get a lot of people in trouble.
However, I - like many others - are sick of stupid-ass threads rehashing the same nonsense over and over again just because people can't do a simple search.

My R4i Gold is already shipped, just have to wait 90 days for it to arrive from China. Thanks for recommending this as well.

And I imagined that the Vita scene was slow like you said. The thing is that is becoming kind of hard to find pre 3.60 ones, I think they'll worth gold in a few months.

And as for the thread, the best thing then is to ignore, then people will realize that what they asking has already been answered a million times before.

nechigawara · Feb 22, 2017

TCJJ said:
It won't. At the very least, sighax is on the way (eventually).

Besides, the Vita isn't hack-proof just because it was updated, but the Vita hacking scene is small and slow, and the Vita is a rather complicated system. Later firmwares will be hacked eventually, but it could be the minutes or ten years from now. We just don't know.

sighax will need other arm9 exploit (if you don't want to do a hardmod) to allow the nand writing for that custom firmware though.
And 7 years, we only found 6, and most of them unusable on stock 11.3.

And, I agrees that nothing is hack-proof. But, the more technology out, the better security also out.
With that, it's make hacking more harder and harder. And people will give up if it's too much compare to the benefits
Like the hacker once give up on Denuvo (although people found a way to hack it later, Denuvo dev will patch it again and again).
Or Henkaku that decide to give up on futher hack PS Vita.

If you're not dev or never developing somethings, don't talk like you know anything.

TankedThomas · Feb 22, 2017

LichbannMejolaro said:
My R4i Gold is already shipped, just have to wait 90 days for it to arrive from China. Thanks for recommending this as well.

And I imagined that the Vita scene was slow like you said. The thing is that is becoming kind of hard to find pre 3.60 ones, I think they'll worth gold in a few months.

And as for the thread, the best thing then is to ignore, then people will realize that what they asking has already been answered a million times before.

Ignoring isn't the answer. We've learnt this over many years. It doesn't work.

Funnily enough, I have two 3.60 Vitas that are both hacked.

nechigawara said:
sighax will need other arm9 exploit (if you don't want to do a hardmod) to allow the nand writing for that custom firmware though.
And 7 years, we only found 6, and most of them unusable on stock 11.3.

And, I agrees that nothing is hack-proof. But, the more technology out, the better security also out.
With that, it's make hacking more harder and harder. And people will give up if it's too much compare to the benefits
Like the hacker once give up on Denuvo (although people found a way to hack it later, Denuvo dev will patch it again and again).
Or Henkaku that decide to give up on futher hack PS Vita.

If you're not dev or never developing somethings, don't talk like you know anything.

It's been closer to six years, actually. That's pretty much one hack a year at that rate, and that's not even taking into account that the 3DS was basically dead on arrival and sinking fast for the first year and a bit, to the point where there really wasn't interest in the system enough to even bother hacking it anyway.

Most of these exploits have shown up only over the past few years, so that's a significant amount of progress in a short amount of time. It's basically inevitable that another one will be found. Remember, we're not talking about hacking the Switch or any other new hardware - we're talking about hacking the 3DS (and, by extension, the Vita) which is not new and which cannot be updated by Nintendo to a point where it is bullet-proof. The floodgates are open; now they're just patching small leaks. There's meant to be another ARM9 exploit in the works that's hush-hush anyway, if I remember correctly. But regardless, if you can hardmod (which I realise isn't currently possible) then that's not unhackable - that's just a more complicated hack. Well, I say complicated, but I actually found it very easy, though I can't say I recommend it to just anyone.

As for your last statement... I disagree. Personally speaking, I'm no developer, but I know a decent amount about this stuff, and a lot of it is just common knowledge. As long as you're not starting some sort of confusion en mass and posting blatantly false information (which does happen), talking about this stuff (and, more commonly, shooting down all the people who ask stupid questions which they could find the answer to in a matter of seconds) is fine. My point being that you don't have to be a developer to understand or even know anything about such topics.

nechigawara · Feb 22, 2017

TCJJ said:
IIt's been closer to six years, actually. That's pretty much one hack a year at that rate, and that's not even taking into account that the 3DS was basically dead on arrival and sinking fast for the first year and a bit, to the point where there really wasn't interest in the system enough to even bother hacking it anyway.

Most of these exploits have shown up only over the past few years, so that's a significant amount of progress in a short amount of time. It's basically inevitable that another one will be found. Remember, we're not talking about hacking the Switch or any other new hardware - we're talking about hacking the 3DS (and, by extension, the Vita) which is not new and which cannot be updated by Nintendo to a point where it is bullet-proof. The floodgates are open; now they're just patching small leaks. There's meant to be another ARM9 exploit in the works that's hush-hush anyway, if I remember correctly. But regardless, if you can hardmod (which I realise isn't currently possible) then that's not unhackable - that's just a more complicated hack. Well, I say complicated, but I actually found it very easy, though I can't say I recommend it to just anyone.

As for your last statement... I disagree. Personally speaking, I'm no developer, but I know a decent amount about this stuff, and a lot of it is just common knowledge. As long as you're not starting some sort of confusion en mass and posting blatantly false information (which does happen), talking about this stuff (and, more commonly, shooting down all the people who ask stupid questions which they could find the answer to in a matter of seconds) is fine. My point being that you don't have to be a developer to understand or even know anything about such topics.

When there is a way doesn't mean it's always has an easy way to hack.
And if people give up, there will be no more hack.
I already said that nothing in technology is hack-proof.
But, if it's take too much time and effort, hacker may not do it
This is what I said, so don't give people a hope until there is really a hope there.

If you're dev, you will understand how hard to create somthing, and it will be more hard if it's something not decide to work normally such as hack or exploit.

TankedThomas · Feb 22, 2017

nechigawara said:
When there is a way doesn't mean it's always has an easy way to hack.
And if people give up, there will be no more hack.
I already said that nothing in technology is hack-proof.
But, if it's take too much time and effort, hacker may not do it
This is what I said, so don't give people a hope until there is really a hope there

I didn't say that just because there is a way that it is easy.

I'm not giving anyone false hope. I'm simply saying it will happen. I never said when or how. I never gave a timeline. I cannot be held responsible for people who need to ask "CAN I HACK 11.3 NOW?" every day. That's their own prerogative.

I think most people would agree that the 3DS scene is still very much alive.

nechigawara · Feb 22, 2017

TCJJ said:
I'm not giving anyone false hope.

"It won't. At the very least, sighax is on the way (eventually)." when you aren't a dev?

TCJJ said:
I didn't say that just because there is a way that it is easy.

I'm not giving anyone false hope. I'm simply saying it will happen. I never said when or how. I never gave a timeline. I cannot be held responsible for people who need to ask "CAN I HACK 11.3 NOW?" every day. That's their own prerogative.

I think most people would agree that the 3DS scene is still very much alive.

I agree that 3DS hack scene is still alive (since A9LH user won't effect by 11.3).
But right now there is no progress we can see.

So, the current situation for stock 11.3 is nothing.
My point is, you shoudn't said the info that nothing can confirm.
Nobody can confirm that new arm9 exlpoit will be discover or not, but right now there is none.

TankedThomas · Feb 22, 2017

nechigawara said:
"It won't. At the very least, sighax is on the way (eventually)." when you aren't a dev?

How do you know I'm not a developer (other than the fact I said I'm not, at least when it comes to the 3DS)?
I fail to see how that's false hope when the likelihood of another exploit not being found is extremely low.
You apparently missed the part where not being a dev ≠ having no knowledge.

nechigawara said:
I agree that 3DS hack scene is still alive (since A9LH user won't effect by 11.3).
But right now there is no progress we can see.

So, the current situation for stock 11.3 is nothing.
My point is, you shoudn't said the info that nothing can confirm.
Nobody can confirm that new arm9 exlpoit will be discover or not, but right now there is none.

Perhaps no public progress (at least that you've seen), but the exploit will exist. I'd put money on it, and I'm not a betting man. Again, I'm not saying it'll come out tomorrow or even next year. It could come out in 50 years. But it will happen. As I pointed out with my analogy before, the 3DS has already been broken wide-open. It's easier to screw around with the system, more than ever before, meaning it's even easier to find exploits than before. Which isn't to say it's easy per se, but it can be done. The ARM9 exploit will happen. It's just a matter of when, and "when" could be years from now or it could be tonight.

nechigawara · Feb 22, 2017

TCJJ said:
How do you know I'm not a developer (other than the fact I said I'm not, at least when it comes to the 3DS)?

I fail to see how that's false hope when the likelihood of another exploit not being found is extremely low.

You apparently missed the part where not being a dev ≠ having no knowledge.

I mean the 3DS dev since you said it yourself you're not one of them.
Because of that, why you really beleive that the likelihood of another exploit being found is high, when you're not doing them?

About the dev part, I agree that people who aren't dev may have developing knowledge, so I don't argue with that anymore.

TCJJ said:
Perhaps no public progress (at least that you've seen), but the exploit will exist. I'd put money on it, and I'm not a betting man. Again, I'm not saying it'll come out tomorrow or even next year. It could come out in 50 years. But it will happen. As I pointed out with my analogy before, the 3DS has already been broken wide-open. It's easier to screw around with the system, more than ever before, meaning it's even easier to find exploits than before. Which isn't to say it's easy per se, but it can be done. The ARM9 exploit will happen. It's just a matter of when, and "when" could be years from now or it could be tonight.

It can be done doesn't mean it will be done. Again, developer can give up if it's too hard + too long.
3DS has already been broken wide-open doesn't mean the exploit the dev found will be usable or possible to use compare to the
patient of the developer. They can give up. That's why I see everything in now.
Yeah, may be something is developing in secret, but if we don't know, we can't or can assume that it's really there.

But, yeah, it may be the truth, if the developer is patient enough.

The Catboy · Feb 22, 2017

I seriously have no idea what's going on this thread, but honestly you are all wasting your time. The simple answer is no. There is no downgrade from 11.3 and it's going to be really hard to make downgrade due to the NATIVE_FIRM requirement added to the homemenu. If you want to hack your 3DS, just sell it and buy a new one. You are wasting your time sitting around holding onto a system where you could be waiting Glob knows how long for a hack. When you could easily get a new system on an exploitable OFW right from your local stores.

TankedThomas · Feb 22, 2017

nechigawara said:
I mean the 3DS dev since you said it yourself you're not one of them.
Because of that, why you really beleive that the likelihood of another exploit being found is high, when you're not doing them?

About the dev part, I agree that people who aren't dev may have developing knowledge, so I don't argue with that anymore.

You didn't specify before, so it sounded like you were generalising.

I thought I'd made it pretty clear that there is a high likelihood, or should I say "probability", of another exploit being found, simply based on probability alone. But again, I also made it clear that the 3DS has been hacked quite extensively, so that also increases the likelihood of another exploit being found. @Crystal the Glaceon is right though - we don't know how long it will be until a new hack shows up, and it's unlikely we'll magically get a downgrade hack overnight thanks to NATIVE_FIRM. That doesn't mean it can't or won't happen at some point though. Remember, I never gave a timeline for it happening. I just said it'll happen. One day. That doesn't mean you should sit around waiting for it to happen, because it could be a while.

Also, you can't really say that you agree and won't use that as an argument any more when you've just being doing that the whole time. Heck, anyone who has the time to install A9LH+Luma should have the time to do some basic reading on the risks and basic details and explanations of the 3DS, CFW, homebrew etc. Anyone who can't do that shouldn't be installing A9LH+Luma (or at least, not installing such a thing and then whining when they screw it up because they didn't do some basic research first).

nechigawara said:
It can be done doesn't mean it will be done. Again, developer can give up if it's too hard + too long.
3DS has already been broken wide-open doesn't mean the exploit the dev found will be usable or possible to use compare to the
patient of the developer. They can give up. That's why I see everything in now.
Yeah, may be something is developing in secret, but if we don't know, we can't or can assume that it's really there.

But, yeah, it may be the truth, if the developer is patient enough.

There's more than one developer. Someone will eventually hack it, even if it takes a century. Even if it's a completely different developer to the ones who are currently working on the 3DS.

Also, my point about the 3DS basically being an open floodgate was more to do with the fact that they can now better understand how the system works and have the ability to run more code and such of their own on it, allowing them to be armed with better knowledge for finding and exploiting weaknesses in the system which could potentially lead to further public exploits.

nechigawara · Feb 22, 2017

@TCJJ The point is, I speak about now, what we saw, what the current situation.
And I point that, broken wide-open doesn't mean the exploit the dev found will be usable or possible to use compare to the patient of the developer.
It can happen in the future also mean that It can't happen in the future. We can't saw future without a proof (which "probability" isn't a proof).
Yeah, in the future they may be out someday, there is a possibility it will out later, which I agree.

But, that is in the future, not now. There is no proof that someone is found a working arm9 exploit.
Nothing in the eyes telling us that it will come "for sure" in the current situation.
That's why I call you said "It will be hackable" is "giving a hope".

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