Hacking update emuNAND to 11.3? Is it safe?

Dothackjhe · Feb 21, 2017

What does it mean when you refer to "franken firmware?" Is that a CFW?

nechigawara · Feb 21, 2017

Dothackjhe said:
What does it mean when you refer to "franken firmware?" Is that a CFW?

franken firmware is a fw that has some part in different version.
The uncontolable one mostly occur when you downgrading to 9.2, some of the FW stuck on the version before downgrading, make some exploit unworkable (mostly arm9 which require for 2.1 CTRtransfer).
A controlable franken firmware is occur when the user update only online require part of the FW such as online module, allow to keep old version of FW while be able to go online without going to lastest version. I assume that this method not work if that games using NFIRM version check.

Dothackjhe · Feb 21, 2017

Is franken firmware necessarily as good as Luma3DS then? Or not really?

nechigawara · Feb 21, 2017

Dothackjhe said:
Is franken firmware necessarily as good as Luma3DS then? Or not really?

I believe if the games check NFIRM version, that game won't load, since you can't update NFIRM or you will lose arm9 exploit.

Dothackjhe · Feb 21, 2017

nechigawara said:
I believe if the games check NFIRM version, that game won't load, since you can't update NFIRM or you will lose arm9 exploit.

Thanks nechigawara. I guess I'm better off switching to Luma3DS as an upgrade from rxTools.

The Catboy · Feb 21, 2017

Dothackjhe said:
Is franken firmware necessarily as good as Luma3DS then? Or not really?

It can cause a lot of different problems and it heavily suggested to fix asap

Dothackjhe · Feb 21, 2017

Is there any specific tutorial which users with the upgrade from older CFW like rxTools to Luma3DS?

nechigawara · Feb 21, 2017

Crystal the Glaceon said:
It can cause a lot of different problems and it heavily suggested to fix asap

@gnmmarechal once said that the controlable franken firmware is safe.
But, since the NFIRM check is out, I don't think we should keep using it anymore.

Dothackjhe said:
Is there any specific tutorial which users with the upgrade from older CFW like rxTools to Luma3DS?

Do you want to keep using menuhax (easy way, but with a possibilty to lose your hack) or A9LH (hard way but mostly safe from remove)?

Dothackjhe · Feb 21, 2017

nechigawara said:
@gnmmarechal once said that the controlable franken firmware is safe.
But, since the NFIRM check is out, I don't think we should keep using it anymore.

Do you want to keep using menuhax (easy way, but with a possibilty to lose your hack) or A9LH (hard way but mostly safe from remove)?

I like the sound of the A9LH route. Can you point me to it?

The Catboy · Feb 21, 2017

nechigawara said:
@gnmmarechal once said that the controlable franken firmware is safe.
But, since the NFIRM check is out, I don't think we should keep using it anymore.

Do you want to keep using menuhax (easy way, but with a possibilty to lose your hack) or A9LH (hard way but mostly safe from remove)?

I hear hit n' miss results and just wouldn't suggest sitting on anything broken for too long.

Dothackjhe · Feb 21, 2017

Crystal the Glaceon said:
I hear hit n' miss results and just wouldn't suggest sitting on anything broken for too long.

You're referring to franken firmware, right?

nechigawara · Feb 21, 2017

Dothackjhe said:
I like the sound of the A9LH route. Can you point me to it?

There is 2 things you need to know right now, of course, about 3DS hacking.

3DS exploit: This is a way allow to run somethings that normally can't run such as homebrew, etc. Example of 3DS exploit are menuhax, arm9loaderhax, fasthax, etc.
3DS CFW: This is what you want to allow your 3DS to add more function to FW, such as out of region cart load, pirating, ETC. This one need 3DS exploit to be able to run. Example of CFW is Luma3DS. ReiNAND, Corbenik.

The choices you have now is changing from menuhax (exploit) + rxtools (CFW) by Installing Arm9loaderhax (A9LH) Exploit with Luma3DS CFW. Can be done by Boot to SysNAND, change your theme (normal theme with other color is fine), then following this guide: http://3ds.guide/. This setting is mostly safe from removed by Nintendo. The problem is, this setting require user to hack into 3DS System files. So it has a small risk of brick. But, if you're understand and following every step of the guide I gave you correctly. Even though you bricked, it can still be fix by hardmod. The guide will ask you to later merge emuNAND back to sysNAND.

You better do this now since your FW is mostly perfect for this. 11.3 right now is hopeless, even hardmoding excpet you have 9.2 NAND backup.

The Catboy · Feb 21, 2017

Dothackjhe said:
You're referring to franken firmware, right?

That I am.

Dothackjhe · Feb 21, 2017

nechigawara said:
There is 2 things you need to know right now, of course, about 3DS hacking.

3DS exploit: This is a way allow to run somethings that normally can't run such as homebrew, etc. Example of 3DS exploit are menuhax, arm9loaderhax, fasthax, etc.

3DS CFW: This is what you want to allow your 3DS to add more function to FW, such as out of region cart load, pirating, ETC. This one need 3DS exploit to be able to run. Example of CFW is Luma3DS. ReiNAND, Corbenik.

The choices you have now is changing from menuhax (exploit) + rxtools (CFW) by Installing Arm9loaderhax (A9LH) Exploit with Luma3DS CFW. Can be done by Boot to SysNAND, change your theme (normal theme with other color is fine), then following this guide: http://3ds.guide/. This setting is mostly safe from removed by Nintendo. The problem is, this setting require user to hack into 3DS System files. So it has a small risk of brick. But, if you're understand and following every step of the guide I gave you correctly. Even though you bricked, it can still be fix by hardmod. The guide will ask you to later merge emuNAND back to sysNAND.

You better do this now since your FW is mostly perfect for this. 11.3 right now is hopeless, even hardmoding excpet you have 9.2 NAND backup.

I have two 3DSes: an N3DS XL and a O3DS XL. My N3DS XL with a SysNand firmware at 9.2 that runs on ReiNand. On the other hand, my O3DS XL is at SysNand firmware 8.XX and runs on rxTools.

Must I need to be on a certain SysNand firmware in order to begin my upgrade to Luma3DS?

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Crystal the Glaceon said:
That I am.

Thanks for the heads up.

nechigawara · Feb 21, 2017

Dothackjhe said:
I have two 3DSes: an N3DS XL and a O3DS XL. My N3DS XL with a SysNand firmware at 9.2 that runs on ReiNand. On the other hand, my O3DS XL is at SysNand firmware 8.XX and runs on rxTools.

Must I need to be on a certain SysNand firmware in order to begin my upgrade to Luma3DS?

ฺBoth of them are hackable without the need of other tools.

Dothackjhe · Feb 21, 2017

nechigawara said:
ฺBoth of them are hackable without the need of other tools.

I guess I'll read on this guide first then: https://3ds.guide/

deSSy2724 · Feb 21, 2017

Say what you want but I had no problems with franken firmwares (if i dont update the native firm).

BTW On my setup, Pokebank 1.3 forces you to update the system/firmware (if you try to install it trough eShop) but if you installed it via .cia from "that ISO site", you can bypass it. Basically, it checks your native firm upon installing, and there is obiviously another check upon executing Pokebank 1.3 (thats why I received the message: "no safe data found") but in combination with NTR I can bypass it.

nechigawara · Feb 22, 2017

deSSy2724 said:
Say what you want but I had no problems with franken firmwares (if i dont update the native firm).

BTW On my setup, Pokebank 1.3 forces you to update the system/firmware (if you try to install it trough eShop) but if you installed it via .cia from "that ISO site", you can bypass it. Basically, it checks your native firm upon installing, and there is obiviously another check upon executing Pokebank 1.3 (thats why I received the message: "no safe data found") but in combination with NTR I can bypass it.

So it can bypass with a bit of effort then.
I will still suggest people to go A9LH since when you finish the setup, you can use it like normal 3DS.

Dothackjhe · Feb 22, 2017

I'm thinking of postponing the upgrade until a patch is made for Luma3DS with the 11.3 firmware. Luma3DS appears to also have been affected running certain homebrews when updated to 11.3.

nechigawara · Feb 22, 2017

Dothackjhe said:
I'm thinking of postponing the upgrade until a patch is made for Luma3DS with the 11.3 firmware. Luma3DS appears to also have been affected running certain homebrews when updated to 11.3.

Which homebrews?
PS. after merge the EmuNAND to SysNAND, you can keep the version of EmuNAND.
3DS never force updating.

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