Hardware "Early-Shipped" Nintendo Switch Systems Were Actually Stolen

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We establish he bought something he knew it was stolen. I'm saying, if he bought it without knowing it was stolen, he shouldn't get penalized for it. He, himself, didn't actually steal anything.


So who should foot the bill? There's a reason laws like this exist... If people were able to receive stolen goods without any comeback so long as they plead ignorance, then there'd be a lot more people willing to "unknowingly" receive stolen goods, and hence a bigger market for stolen goods.

In this example Person A has stolen from a warehouse and sold to person B. The property was seized from person B. Who do you want to be responsible for replacing Person B's switch? The warehouse? Nintendo?

What if we change the scenario slightly. I steal *your* Switch and sell it to person C. Person C didn't know it was stolen... Does that mean that you should buy him a new one? Or Nintendo?
 

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So who should foot the bill? There's a reason laws like this exist... If people were able to receive stolen goods without any comeback so long as they plead ignorance, then there'd be a lot more people willing to "unknowingly" receive stolen goods, and hence a bigger market for stolen goods.

In this example Person A has stolen from a warehouse and sold to person B. The property was seized from person B. Who do you want to be responsible for replacing Person B's switch? The warehouse? Nintendo?

What if we change the scenario slightly. I steal *your* Switch and sell it to person C. Person C didn't know it was stolen... Does that mean that you should buy him a new one? Or Nintendo?

The answer is "nobody", nobody will reimburse the guy who paid for the switch. When people exchange any goods and services, they accept the risk that if if the goods/services offered were stolen that they will eat the cost and in some cases face legal trouble.
 

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The answer is "nobody", nobody will reimburse the guy who paid for the switch. When people exchange any goods and services, they accept the risk that if if the goods/services offered were stolen that they will eat the cost and in some cases face legal trouble.

That's the point he was making... You literally explained him what he was already impliying lol
 
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Hmm stolen hardware vs software editing? Right
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As long as he didn't modify the console, they wouldn't because its still unhaxed. No bans.

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So who should foot the bill? There's a reason laws like this exist... If people were able to receive stolen goods without any comeback so long as they plead ignorance, then there'd be a lot more people willing to "unknowingly" receive stolen goods, and hence a bigger market for stolen goods.

In this example Person A has stolen from a warehouse and sold to person B. The property was seized from person B. Who do you want to be responsible for replacing Person B's switch? The warehouse? Nintendo?

What if we change the scenario slightly. I steal *your* Switch and sell it to person C. Person C didn't know it was stolen... Does that mean that you should buy him a new one? Or Nintendo?
Person B could sue person A to get the money back on stolen goods. Its been done before.
 
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Of course they could. That's not the same as Person B just getting a new unit out of thin air, though.
True, and Its WAY slower then just buying the switch, and he most likely will only get retail price, not the price he paid
 

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