[UPDATE] The 100 lost PAL SNES games have been recovered

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byuu, creator of the cycle-accurate SNES emulator higan and behind a preservation project for SNES games, has killed the project after a loss of 100 PAL games during shipping. While he still plans to dump the Japanese games that he bought, the hopes of getting a complete PAL set are gone.

On January 5th, a package containing 100 PAL games were sent to me to dump. The United States Postal Service has either stolen or lost this package. Most likely the former.

Do not tell me to wait longer. I don't want to fucking hear it. The package is gone and nobody can help. I don't want to ride on some platitude that "HERP DERP MAYBE ONE DAY THEY'LL SHOW UP!" They won't. There is no point in false hope, that's cruel to both me and the donor, and it will just delay reimbursement.

The next step is to try and obtain the insurance claim, and then I'm going to start making payments each paycheck to try and reimburse the sender until he is able to repuchase all 100 games locally. Or if he prefers, he can just keep the money that's equivalent to the value of the cartridges. I won't be purchasing the carts to be delievered to me, because I don't want to risk shipping them back.

I also want to be clear, the donor never asked for reimbursement upon loss. It was my decision and it's going to happen, because I can't live with myself if it doesn't.

Regardless, this much is certain: the SNES preservation project is officially and permanently dead.

This is a great loss to the emulation scene and its attempt at preserving the original systems accurately. Some people are suggesting byuu to set up a Patreon/GoFundMe and he seems okay with the idea if he can fully pay back for what was lost this time.

:arrow: Source
:arrow: byuu's overview


EDIT: Feb 23

It appears that the games have been recovered! The $10,000 collection of rare Super Nintendo games are no longer missing. According to the USPS, the games were actually lost, due to the label ripping off, rather than the rumors of package theft that had been floating around. Byuu, the person behind the project now says the SNES Preservation Project is no longer dead. In the linked blog post below, Byuu writes that had the media not covered this incident, these games would have sat in a facility for months, before ultimately winding up in an auction. There was a clear address on the box, even after the label had been damaged. He says while the project will continue on in the years to come, but he will never trust the postal service with larger shipments due to this issue.

My package was sitting in Atlanta, GA for well over a month with my address clearly visible right on the box. Had this case not been escalated to the media, it likely would have gone up for auction in a bin with other electronics sometime in March. As absolutely thrilled as I am to have these games finally delivered, I do still believe the entire experience reflects poorly on the capabilities of the USPS. I hope that they will improve, but ... I'm guessing that's not likely.

If you donated to his Patreon to help recover the cost of the lost games, Byuu is offering a full refund.

:arrow: SOURCE
 
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Lost ? How do you lose 100 fucking SNES gamepacks ? It's robbery for sure.
Right on. Someone at the warehouse got ahold of the package without the cameras filming (or if they did, the footage was deleted) and kept it for him/themselves.

Pretty much all SNES games have already been dumped, the main goal of this project however was to obtain totally clean dumps.
I suppose he could ask collectors who own to collaborate but that would take too much time and money. This really sucks.
 

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A few years ago I worked on UPS' warehouse and I was shocked by the condition of packages and they'd throw them around. For example, a box of wine bottles was completely broken, a HDTV box ripped and other packages had similar disastrous defects too. This just killed my spirit from going back there.
Is just the fact that the job isn't taken seriously, slackers on the job or whatever. I mean if they just do their job COMPETENTLY this wouldn't be a issue, if the package is actually stolen, i like to see how this setup happen, Even phonenix wright would laugh at the excuses. :creep:

Seriously, maybe is not life threatning situation but it still big, trusting someone to do something right is important especially if you are working with other companies or businesses, last thing you want to do is have a ruined reputation, get in trouble or have your operation shut down by investigation. If you just do it right then nothing is wrong. Whatever actually happen, if they are innocent, i need some decisive evidence to believe them cause from personal experience i wouldn't.:mellow:
 
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And I thought it was just Brazil that had a shitty Postal Service :\ I'm sorry that it had to end like this. I hope byuu gets the insurance money asap
 

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as many spaniards know, its always best to put all your inka gold on a single ship, to make sure it all gets lost in the same area of the ocean.
 

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Cracked I know but
http://www.cracked.com/personal-exp...ges-get-destroyed-learned-working-at-ups.html

And I thought it was just Brazil that had a shitty Postal Service

Pick a place anywhere on earth and I doubt you will find anybody compliments their baseline postal services. I see something similar for public transport but there at least there are some differences -- I occasionally see people complain about Netherlands public transit which boggles my mind.
 

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Hopefully the insurance pays out so that replacements can be purchased. It would be even better (and a miracle) if the package is found.
 

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Is just the fact that the job isn't taken seriously, slackers on the job or whatever. I mean if they just do their job COMPETENTLY this wouldn't be a issue, if the package is actually stolen, i like to see how this setup happen, Even phonenix wright would laugh at the excuses. :creep:

Seriously, maybe is not life threatning situation but it still big, trusting someone to do something right is important especially if you are working with other companies or businesses, last thing you want to do is have a ruined reputation, get in trouble or have your operation shut down by investigation. If you just do it right then nothing is wrong. Whatever actually happen, if they are innocent, i need some decisive evidence to believe them cause from personal experience i wouldn't.:mellow:

on the other hand, anyone who ever worked in that industry for more than a few weeks probably realizes that the working conditions are downright hellish. the workload a delivery driver has to shoulder does not correlate well with the ambition to do a good job. it barely works out if you want to do an ok job.
then, its also not as simple as just taking a package and driving it someplace. packages, especially if they move over countrylines go through dozens of automatic scans, dozens of hands, dozens of modes of transportation. there's hundreds of places something could have gone wrong, starting with the sender missadressing, a machine missreading part of the postal code (and the worker thats there to doublecheck unsure numbers might have slipped up on his 4000th code that day).
whatever was on that package that held the adresses could have simply gotten ruined.

there could have been any number of unlikely but not impossible slipups when the package moved from continent 1s postal service to continent 2s.
and of course, someone could have damaged it and, in an attempt to save their job, thrown the whole package under some conveyor belt where it will remain hidden for a few months.

and any number of people could have stolen it, of course. not just deliverymen, but security personel, day to day workers, actual criminals (because there are some storehouses that get broken in to occasionally)

it could've even been someone in the know, someone who knew these 100 games were supposed to arrive at some point who managed to intercept an overworked deliveryguy who was just happy to not have to carry that box up the stairs.

or he's the one who messed up after all. i mean, those games aren't going to get any cheaper, so keeping them hidden for a while, reimbursing todays prices, might just make some profit along the way.
 

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Are there that many SNES games that don't have accurate dumps?
Some were discussing this elsewhere and it seems even no-intro are not above the odd mistake on other platforms, and it is not like SNES games are all simple ROM chip breakout boards and were all dumped repeatedly using highly accurate and polished hardware. If it was like earlier projects then boxes, manuals, cart labels and more would have been scanned as well.
 
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So true. The "animal semen" made me chuckle but that's likely one of the packages better taken care of as they wouldn't want semen anywhere.

anyone who ever worked in that industry for more than a few weeks probably realizes that the working conditions are downright hellish.
That's true, too. It's an extremely heavy job and with very little time to have your body relaxed as the employees are always moving/throwing/changing boxes. The absolute heaviest are of course, the heavy packages. Better make sure to include plenty of bubblewrap inside to avoid damage.
 
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I saw the 4chan thread on this a couple days ago. I feel this might just be some neckbeard temper tantrum and when/if he gets the games, what the fuck is he going to do? "I called off one of the biggest projects in the retro game scene b-but it's not off I'm sorry guys please forgive me?" No, he isn't going to do that.

It's a shame, but still
 
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Regardless of the reason he is claiming dead on the project, USPS needs something done about it, to think i signed a petition to keep my local post office open. :glare:

Sick of seeing stuff like this come up all over the place, back when i used to think fedex was bad, (throwing fragile packages over fences cause they either was too lazy to walk up to the front door, or just didn't wanna deal with a dog or some other excuse) Is irritating and wrong. :angry:


Delivery does suck a lot.

Just today and two days ago, I heard the postman enter in the appartment lobby. I'm preparing myself to answer, since I'm stuck to bed for medical reason and I knew there was a parcel that was coming, but the postman ner knock. I did hear him going near the door and putting down the package though. I go open the dorr and he just ledt with the package at our door. We are in an appartment. ANYONE could have just take the parcel and go away with it... urgh.
 
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When I worked at Staples, we were an authorized UPS ship center. I was in the copy center and a lady wanted a large map passed down through her family to be laminated and mounted to display board. It was bigger than what I could do in the store. I knew our regional copy center had the equipment to do it, but when you have to ship the item to them and when it's an irreplaceable item, I never mention the option because I didn't want it to get lost or damaged in shipment. But the boss was there and they decided to hop in and announce how we could do just what I was avoiding. Well, she wanted to do it.

So I got a mailing tube off the store shelf, gently rolled the map up and placed it in the tube, then proceeded to tape the ever loving crap out of both ends so the caps wouldn't pop off. We shipped it out via UPS and that was that. Then I got the phone call from UPS a few days later. "Sir, we regret to inform you that the package you sent has a problem. We have the shipping tube, but one of the caps appears to have come off and we are unable to locate the contents." OK, I'm not sure how that happened, because unless you cut the end off with a knife, those lids were not coming off. So, when do we get sent money for this? Because you guys auto insure packages up to $100. "I'll let them know you want to open a claim for insurance money and get back with you."

The next day I get a phone call from UPS. They said they were denying the claim because the shipping tube did not meet the minimum wall thickness. WTF do you mean it isn't thick enough, it's a shipping tube designed for shipping tube shaped objects. Nope, it wasn't thick enough. OK, we're an authorized UPS shipper, you guys don't supply us with shipping materials, and the shipping tube we sell is the exact same one everyone else sells. Where am I supposed to get this magic tube that meets your qualifications? That's not their responsibility they said and there was nothing they could do.

So yeah, basically, good luck ever getting insurance payments from shipping companies.
 

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Byuu's actual statement regarding his game package was this. As of the time of writing, February 14th, 2017 — this package has yet to arrive. It has been stuck in the Jersey City, NJ 07097 bulk mail processing warehouse with absolutely no movement. Byuu may believe the package was lost or stolen but he doesn't know yet.
 
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and the shipping tube we sell is the exact same one everyone else sells. Where am I supposed to get this magic tube that meets your qualifications?
Probably nowhere. University I was at had a massive Chinese population and one time a guy on the course pointed at something and asked what it was called.
"cardboard tube, mate"
Apparently his family's factory made them. There is (was?) also not an awful lot of competition.
 

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