Hacking Decrypt9 say my console is USA but I bought it in EUR

CrimsonMaple · Jan 22, 2017

MarcusCarter said:
That's wrong. His console is EUR, and he is currently on a U Firmware. He should download the 'Old 3DS or 2DS 9.2.0 - EUR - ctrtransfer' file, and only skip section ii. He still needs to complete section iii.

Yes. But we are region changing to see if thats the problem. Which i think it is. I would have him grab EU if we werent.

Yes, down_godmode9.bin, hold down on the dpad on boot to load it.

Maq47 · Jan 22, 2017

CrimsonMaple said:
Yes. But we are region changing to see if thats the problem. Which i think it is. I would have him grab EU if we werent.

Ah. Never mind what I said, then. Carry on.

Although...

From https://3ds.guide/region-changing :

Region changing using ctrtransfer (which this method uses) seems to cause reboot patches to break. The cause for this is unknown, but for now Old 3DS users will be unable to play extended memory mode games (such as Monster Hunter, Super Smash Bros, and Pokémon Sun / Moon).

I think the only way around this is to use a Gateway card with a Gateway emuNAND, then play those games in Gateway Mode.

Alex658 · Jan 22, 2017

Before making him keep jumping between transfers why don't you make sure his console was actually EUR in the first place to begin with?
Serial numbers aren't enough?
I mean all we have to think it was an eur console is him "remembering" being on 11.2.0-35E, considering the other steps he got wrong i'd say to make sure before jumping to conclusions/solutions blindly.

CrimsonMaple · Jan 22, 2017

Alex658 said:
Before making him keep jumping between transfers why don't you make sure his console was actually EUR in the first place to begin with?
Serial numbers aren't enough?
I mean all we have to think it was an eur console is him "remembering" being on 11.2.0-35E, considering the other steps he got wrong i'd say to make sure before jumping to conclusions/solutions blindly.

Ill have him tell me the first byte on line 100 of secureinfoa before we change it. That will confirm the original console region.

Rafa10 · Jan 22, 2017

Well guys I need to sleep, and in France there is a proverb who say the night give advice, so maybe it's better to think about it!

Alex658 · Jan 22, 2017

CrimsonMaple said:
Ill have him tell me the first byte on line 100 of secureinfoa before we change it. That will confirm the original console region.

Yeah. Just re-read the region changing guide and it seems that would indeed confirm the original region.

The other thing i'm worried about is the out-of-region a9lh instalation if he mistakenly used the USA 2.1CTRtransfer. There's no mention of what problems could possibly arouse from this, rather careless move...

FF777 · Jan 22, 2017

MarcusCarter said:
His console is EUR

Earlier you said it was a USA version based from the CW7253 serial number.. Why do you think it is EUR now?..

I found some other old post on gbatemp from a guy saying he bought THREE 3DSs from FRANCE, and that his serial numbers on those start with CEH on one, SEF on an other, and CEF on his third one.. He then states in that same post that he knows USA consoles start with CW..
(Link to that post)

I think you guys should have spent more time determining if his console was really EUR or not.. I mean, no amount of software or hacks will change a physical serial number on the 3DS/2DS its self, so why did you guys not trust that and instead think it was a EUR console?..

And for rafa10 to avoid future problems, he should know it is a USA console.. Not sure how he got a USA one, but the serial number doesn't lie in most cases..

CrimsonMaple · Jan 22, 2017

FF777 said:
Earlier you said it was a USA version based from the CW7253 serial number.. Why do you think it is EUR now?..

I found some other old post on gbatemp from a guy saying he bought THREE 3DSs from FRANCE, and that his serial numbers on those start with CEH on one, SEF on an other, and CEF on his third one.. He then states in that same post that he knows USA consoles start with CW..
(Link to that post)

I think you guys should have spent more time determining if his console was really EUR or not.. I mean, no amount of software or hacks will change a physical serial number on the 3DS/2DS its self, so why did you guys not trust that and instead think it was a EUR console?..

And for rafa10 to avoid future problems, he should know it is a USA console.. Not sure how he got a USA one, but the serial number doesn't lie in most cases..

Yes the serial usually doesnt lie. But you can never be truely sure. Because we have conflicting responses. Rafa says it is EU, the serial says its US. We cant really tell until we look in the secureinfo_a

Alex658 · Jan 22, 2017

FF777 said:
Earlier you said it was a USA version based from the CW7253 serial number.. Why do you think it is EUR now?..

I found some other old post on gbatemp from a guy saying he bought THREE 3DSs from FRANCE, and that his serial numbers on those start with CEH on one, SEF on an other, and CEF on his third one.. He then states in that same post that he knows USA consoles start with CW..
(Link to that post)

I think you guys should have spent more time determining if his console was really EUR or not.. I mean, no amount of software or hacks will change a physical serial number on the 3DS/2DS its self, so why did you guys not trust that and instead think it was a EUR console?..

And for rafa10 to avoid future problems, he should know it is a USA console.. Not sure how he got a USA one, but the serial number doesn't lie in most cases..

This is exactly what i've been trying to say. Before moving on we have to make sure what was his staring region/version as he apparently fucked up in the CTR transfer and somehow managed to even get a9lh installed even with sone wrong step(s).

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I have 3 USA consoles. Two of them start with CW (regular o3ds) and one starts with SW (o3dsXL).

So...

FF777 · Jan 22, 2017

Alex658 said:
Two of them start with CW (regular o3ds) and one starts with SW (o3dsXL).

That is also what that guy said in the link that I posted; that he thought the USA XL would start with SW probably..

I'm trying to think of this situation logically.. There are 2 possible scenarios and I am trying to determine which one is more likely:

Scenario 1: He bought a 3DS (or did he say 2DS?) from some place that gave him a USA version.. He just trusted that place and went on assuming it was a EUR version, and I know he said he thought he saw "E" at the end of his firmware version before but for all we know he could be mis-remembering.. This is a person that doesn't do steps in the guide to determine which region your 3DS is, and a person that wasn't even aware that the purpose of backing up your NAND is so that you can restore it later; he just thought the NAND back-up was to save his games, so he ended up skipping that very important part.. So I'm wondering how much detail this kind of person really pays attention to..

Scenario 2: We believe every thing happened exactly the way he said, which means nintendo suddenly decided to start using CW serial numbers on EUR consoles for no reason, and our friend rafa10 here is the first person in history to buy one of these.. And since he said he has only installed EUR ctrnand stuff on to his 3DS, we must also postulate that decrypt9wip is a lying sack of crap because it lied to rafa10 and said his region is USA.. I guess in this case we should message d0k3 and tell him to fix this huge bug in decrypt9 that no one else has ever had before..

Now which scenario seems more likely to you all?..

Maq47 · Jan 22, 2017

FF777 said:
That is also what that guy said in the link that I posted; that he thought the USA XL would start with SW probably..

I'm trying to think of this situation logically.. There are 2 possible scenarios and I am trying to determine which one is more likely:

Scenario 1: He bought a 3DS (or did he say 2DS?) from some place that gave him a USA version.. He just trusted that place and went on assuming it was a EUR version, and I know he said he thought he saw "E" at the end of his firmware version before but for all we know he could be mis-remembering.. This is a person that doesn't do steps in the guide to determine which region your 3DS is, and a person that wasn't even aware that the purpose of backing up your NAND is so that you can restore it later; he just thought the NAND back-up was to save his games, so he ended up skipping that very important part.. So I'm wondering how much detail this kind of person really pays attention to..

Scenario 2: We believe every thing happened exactly the way he said, which means nintendo suddenly decided to start using CW serial numbers on EUR consoles for no reason, and our friend rafa10 here is the first person in history to buy one of these.. And since he said he has only installed EUR ctrnand stuff on to his 3DS, we must also postulate that decrypt9wip is a lying sack of crap because it lied to rafa10 and said his region is USA.. I guess in this case we should message d0k3 and tell him to fix this huge bug in decrypt9 that no one else has ever had before..

Now which scenario seems more likely to you all?..

What about the possibility of swapping casings with one from a US Old 3DS?

FF777 · Jan 22, 2017

MarcusCarter said:
What about the possibility of swapping casings with one from a US Old 3DS?

Technically possible.. It would help to know where or whom he bought it from so that we might further speculate on the trustworthiness of his source..

However, I'll entertain the scenario of switched cases for a second:
What some people forget is that the 3DSs have a 2nd serial number sticker under the case.. (Not sure about 2DS, and I don't remember if rafa10 specified which one he has or not)..
Now, if some one were to try to remove the sticker its self, i think it would probably get messed up or tear depending on which type of sticker it is, and would be hard to glue on to an other surface and still look proper.. My point being that if some one wanted to trick some one they would probably only switch out the outer case for a different one and they would assume the target person will never end up opening their case so they probably wouldn't even bother to do any thing about the serial sticker on the inside.. So if rafa10 opens up his 3DS, he should see that 2nd serial sticker and in all likelihood that sticker will be what his 3DS really is..

After having typed that I realized I am making a dumb assumption too: I am assuming normal-sized 3DS has 2 stickers just like the LL/XL version, but I've actually never dealt with a normal-sized 3DS before so it is possible that the normal-sized ones only have 1 sticker?.. Maybe some one with a normal-sized 3DS can confirm?..

Although if it ends up only having 1 sticker, then if nothing else we can do like crimsonmaple person said and look at the secureinfo_a information.. I assume from context that some how that will reveal to us which region the 3DS actually is..

Tomy Sakazaki · Jan 22, 2017

FF777 said:
Technically possible.. It would help to know where or whom he bought it from so that we might further speculate on the trustworthiness of his source..

However, I'll entertain the scenario of switched cases for a second:
What some people forget is that the 3DSs have a 2nd serial number sticker under the case.. (Not sure about 2DS, and I don't remember if rafa10 specified which one he has or not)..
Now, if some one were to try to remove the sticker its self, i think it would probably get messed up or tear depending on which type of sticker it is, and would be hard to glue on to an other surface and still look proper.. My point being that if some one wanted to trick some one they would probably only switch out the outer case for a different one and they would assume the target person will never end up opening their case so they probably wouldn't even bother to do any thing about the serial sticker on the inside.. So if rafa10 opens up his 3DS, he should see that 2nd serial sticker and in all likelihood that sticker will be what his 3DS really is..

After having typed that I realized I am making a dumb assumption too: I am assuming normal-sized 3DS has 2 stickers just like the LL/XL version, but I've actually never dealt with a normal-sized 3DS before so it is possible that the normal-sized ones only have 1 sticker?.. Maybe some one with a normal-sized 3DS can confirm?..

Although if it ends up only having 1 sticker, then if nothing else we can do like crimsonmaple person said and look at the secureinfo_a information.. I assume from context that some how that will reveal to us which region the 3DS actually is..

Just opened my O3DS, it does have a 2nd serial sticker after removing the battery cover.

Rafa10 · Jan 22, 2017

Good morning! thanks so what I have to do now?

FF777 · Jan 22, 2017

Rafa10 said:
Good morning! thanks so what I have to do now?

This might be a good start: There are 2 serial-number stickers on your 3DS; One on the outside, and one on the inside.. You can remove/open the back cover on your 3DS to reveal/find the 2nd/inside serial-number sticker.. We want to know if both of the serial-number stickers are the same (both the outside sticker and inside sticker).. Do they both start with "CW7253"? Or are they different from each other?..

Rafa10 · Jan 22, 2017

Okay how can I open it ?
and I've check my internet history :

I'm sure that it was 11.2.0-35E

FF777 · Jan 22, 2017

Rafa10 said:
Okay how can I open it ?

I don't know how to open a normal-sized 3DS.. I have only had LL versions.. With the LL version I had to get a tiny screwdriver and unscrew 2 screws.. I guess you could use youtube or the entire internet or some thing to figure out how to take it off..

Rafa10 · Jan 22, 2017

I've opened it i send u pic

FF777 · Jan 22, 2017

Rafa10 said:
I've opened it

Oooookay, your serial number doesn't start with "CW7253".. Where did you read that number from??..
Instead, your serial number starts with "AEM116".. So yeah, it is probably a real EUR version..

From here though, I am not sure what to do because I don't know very much about fixing 3DSs, so you will have to wait until other people in this thread wake up again, and maybe they can help you more than I can..

Rafa10 · Jan 22, 2017

I read CW7253 from d9wip

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