Poll: Your thoughts on the Switch

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As the day of the Nintendo Switch conference and hands-on impressions draws to a close and the beans have been thoroughly spilled, we want to ask you - what do you think?

What are your impressions on the overall unveiling of the Switch given the pricing, games and hardware capabilities? Will you be Switching? Perhaps you've already pre-ordered one.

Vote in the poll and let us know! And be sure to share your comments in the thread below.

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The launch lineup is bad, awful bad.

Absolutely none, other than import taxes.
I don't know how it is in your country, but in Germany they rape you.
It would end up costing at least ($299+Shipping)*1.19
That is in the impossible best case scenario of free shipping: $355 -> €335
My dad lives in the US so maybe he can bring it with him or mail it(so that i dont pay taxes)
 

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As of pricing it looks like a Nintendo "Buy it & Never get your money back" type of thing once it launches. The acsessories are very over priced, and for the games being produced, the price point of 1, 2 Switch & some other games is pretty well... Eh like why pay $49.99 for "1, 2 Switch" when I can buy a PS3 for $30 & get the equipment to play Start the Party, or play Mario Party with a Wii (or Wii U once the price drops.)

The only thing I thought was realitively intresting about the Switch was the new portabillity features. They looked great to bring on the go & looked good in 720p, my only complaint I am going to have is possibly the screen being a certian type... Similar to the 3DS (IPS Screens & TN.) Just to increase its marketing value.

I'm sure the games will turn out fine but my main concern is always the 3rd Party Support & the hardware (for some its also the games that the Switch provides.) I just wish they did something with the 3DS & Switch to improve upon both of the consoles, similar to how Sony (when they released the PS4.) Had support to play PS4 Games on a PS Vita theough internet streaming. (Limiting the need for a CPU to play some triple A titles on the go.)

Oh and internet, yeah thats "eh" in my opinion, depending on how much it costs per month or year then it may be a good or bad thing. But I have hopes they will hopefully make their membership service cheap in the long run in comparsion to Sony's or Microsoft's.

This may be a "break or fix" for Nintendo with their new console, but if they "break" they may have to become a 3rd Party for Sony, Steam, or Microsoft :o.
 
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Once you get to try the Joy-Cons you'll know why they should have bundled in the Pro Controller too because that just isn't suitable for everyone and well, with a traditional controller it suits all customers.

Nintendo is going forward with the Joy-Cons having that "d-pad" and that's not something they're going to fix, maybe later but unlikely seeing they've set their minds up.
They should not raise the cost of acquiring the console on everybody to include a controller that only some people find necessary. You don't like the joycons and will only play with the pro controller? Fine, buy a pro controller. But you are not everybody and plenty of people will do not require the pro controller and thus do not want to pay the extra cost to have it bundled in their system.
 

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The logic here is here is buying a $300 console to play 1 major title is a pretty bold debate on whether not to buy it at launch
Lets compare this to Wii U's launch shall we... Wii U actually had some 3rd party launch titles and a decent line up, not the best Ive seen but we had our options, so why hasn't the switch? Sure future games will come, always has for every console, but doesn't change the fact it has a weaker launch compared to anything. Thing is we don't even have to compare it to the PS4/Xbox 1 to make a valid point
 
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Is anyone else super disappointed by how utterly awful the launch titles of Switch are? It's only about 5 games and only 1 or 2 games worth picking up. That is terrible. At this point I'm going to be basically buying the Switch to play Zelda. Why the hell isn't there a Mario, F-Zero and Metroid game on launch?!

The Switch also has the same exact amount of internal storage space as the WiiU did -- 32GB. Nintendo didn't even bring it up to 64GB or higher, nope, just keep the same as before because it makes total sense to include only 32GB in 2017.

Very questionable decisions by Nintendo. And then there's the overpriced Switch Pro Controller that I want to get but can't justify paying the price demanded.
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So you can't compare a PC to a console, but you're okay comparing a home console tied down to a TV and power supply to a handheld device that you can pick up and play on-the-go? Okay.
In a way you can because it's meant to be a hybrid. Not that the specs are anything to complain about, as it's shaping up to be the most powerful tablet on the market. Nintendo clearly threw the thickness concerns out the window and installed a proper cooling system in the machine, which is something tablet makers should've done a long time ago in order to close the gap between laptops and tablets. My only concern is the use of ARM over x86. It's an understandable choice considering it's a mobile device that pretends to be a portable home console, but there are chips out there that would allow for similar performance while using the same architecture as the PS4 and the XBO for ease of porting. The AMD R-Series chips are a good example, as they're in the same TDP range as the Tegra chips and offer comparable performance. One of the top-end R chips is used in the somewhat vaporware-ish SMACH Z, formerly known as the Steamboy, and packs 4 Excavator cores @ 3.4GHz in Turbo, as well as 8 GCN 3.0 CU's (512 shaders) @ 800MHz - it's just a little shy of the 750GFLOPS offered by Parker (737, to be exact) within a 12-35W power envelope which is feasible to implement in a tablet with an active cooling system like the Switch. I'm confident that with AMD's custom APU department Nintendo could've created a chip reaching the 1TFLOP threshold without sacrificing anything in terms of hardware-level compatibility with the XBO and the PS4 - now that would be exciting to see.
 
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In a way you can because it's meant to be a hybrid. Not that the specs are anything to complain about, as it's shaping up to be the most powerful tablet on the market. Nintendo clearly threw the thickness concerns out the window and installed a proper cooling system in the machine, which is something tablet makers should've done a long time ago in order to close the gap between laptops and tablets. My only concern is the use of ARM over x86. It's an understandable choice considering it's a mobile device that pretends to be a portable home console, but there are chips out there that would allow for similar performance while using the same architecture as the PS4 and the XBO for ease of porting. The AMD R-Series chips are a good example, as they're in the same TDP range as the Tegra chips and offer comparable performance. One of the top-end R chips is used in the somewhat vaporware-ish SMACH Z, formerly known as the Steamboy, and packs 4 Excavator cores @ 3.4GHz in Turbo, as well as 8 GCN 3.0 CU's (512 shaders) @ 800MHz - it's just a little shy of the 750GFLOPS offered by Parker (737, to be exact) within a 12-35W power envelope which is feasible to implement in a tablet with an active cooling system like the Switch. I'm confident that with AMD's custom APU department Nintendo could've created a chip reaching the 1TFLOP threshold without sacrificing anything in terms of hardware-level compatibility with the XBO and the PS4 - now that would be exciting to see.
So, this is what you meant, when you said you would have designed it better?
 
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In a way you can because it's meant to be a hybrid. Not that the specs are anything to complain about, as it's shaping up to be the most powerful tablet on the market. Nintendo clearly threw the thickness concerns out the window and installed a proper cooling system in the machine, which is something tablet makers should've done a long time ago in order to close the gap between laptops and tablets. My only concern is the use of ARM over x86. It's an understandable choice considering it's a mobile device that pretends to be a portable home console, but there are chips out there that would allow for similar performance while using the same architecture as the PS4 and the XBO for ease of porting. The AMD R-Series chips are a good example, as they're in the same TDP range as the Tegra chips and offer comparable performance. One of the top-end R chips is used in the somewhat vaporware-ish SMACH Z, formerly known as the Steamboy, and packs 4 Excavator cores @ 3.4GHz in Turbo, as well as 8 GCN 3.0 CU's (512 shaders) @ 800MHz - it's just a little shy of the 750GFLOPS offered by Parker (737, to be exact) within a 12-35W power envelope which is feasible to implement in a tablet with an active cooling system like the Switch. I'm confident that with AMD's custom APU department Nintendo could've created a chip reaching the 1TFLOP threshold without sacrificing anything in terms of hardware-level compatibility with the XBO and the PS4 - now that would be exciting to see.

ALL KINDS OF "BIAS" WARNING :D

As such, I take offense to this general "just a tablet" thing, but people gotta be what they gotta be. I'm overlooking it :) I develop for mobile for a living, and the Desktop, and networks...and I gotta tell ya, Power per Watt is THE metric of the future, across the board. This said, c'mon man, you are knocking Nintendo for not going x86? The "just a tablet" x86 mobile SoCs are just soooo weak for *this* application vs purpose designed and fab'd ARM packages.
As for porting - this is largely at the Middleware layer, and THAT is tuned per-arch....and this has been going on for a long time. People haven't routinely written general consumer software in assembler (for non-embedded/RTOS use) in a long...long time :) C'mon :)

I guess I just don't understand, why, if as you say you wish the system to succeed...and you *know* it is already "set in stone" at this juncture...*how you think it would do so* with a message that seems to be largely skewed toward...not...supporting the product as a consumer?

I also, my opinion just reading your stuff here, seem to think feel *other people* think this thing is something it "isn't" based on some metrics that are, well, kind of based on Sony and Microsoft.

It is clearly a home console, with from what I've seen, home console-level "graphics" and not "mobile". It appears to have solid controllers, people are reporting them as clicky and responsive, if not small. It connects to the Internet. It is HD, connects to tv's via HDMI, supports storage expansion...it's a console. It's *small* but I don't think skeuomorphic "Base Station Dock" would have been the way to go to make it look "beefier"...this is the 21st century, you know, make it 33% bigger, add some ballast simply for weight and some "speed vents" :)

Nintendo has presented what it is they are selling and what they are trying to do. I don't think anyone is confused or misled. Maybe dissatisfied, but I mean this isn't Sony here and their Emotion Engine bullshit :) I don't recall Nintendo saying much of ANYTHING about this one other than it will be better than the last one. The evidence seems to support this as well. I mean I didn't see anything that looked "like a mobile game"...did you? Asking honestly. I didn't get that "vibe" although the "just a shield" lead up certainly made one think we'd be seeing some OUYA nonsense...but we didn't.

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Nope. Those things are essential to the console itself yet Nintendo will sell it separately unfortunately. You're a fanboy very clearly.

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PS4 included the essentials which was the console (with LAN inc), 500GB storage and a traditional controller. Buying anything else was optional.

Gimmicks like PSVR and Move sticks aren't really required.

I do not see where this is divergent from the Switch outside of Ethernet which in most homes is NOT the de facto connection. Why should Nintendo add a single penny of cost for a component most people don't use?

Why does the Playstation 4 "require" half a terabyte of fixed disc storage? Does Nintendo have the same requirement? Et cetera. I just find your protestations very...dissonant?
 

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So the switch is 299 in US and 330 in EU. Its Region free. What stops me from importing? Any disadvantages?

How? I just read a press release of nintendo not doing a straight price conversion from NA to EU prices. So US, Canada and EU are all paying 299.00, just in their own form of currency
 

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How? I just read a press release of nintendo not doing a straight price conversion from NA to EU prices. So US, Canada and EU are all paying 299.00, just in their own form of currency

From what people are saying, NoE is selling in the UK in Pounds Sterling...£330. Since it isn't region locked, if you don't mind English, Spanish or French...get one from over here I say, since America seems to not want the thing, right?
 

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The Switch is not region free. They said that, in general, they won't use region locking. That means that most games may not be region locked, but some will be.

Ah yes, thanks for stressing that detail because yes, as you stated "(generally) Region-Free Games" != Region Free system. I know what I meant/mean in my head, but don't want to be part of Misinformation, so thank you :)
 

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From what people are saying, NoE is selling in the UK in Pounds Sterling...£330. Since it isn't region locked, if you don't mind English, Spanish or French...get one from over here I say, since America seems to not want the thing, right?

That doesn't seem right. From what been reading, it should be being sold at 299 pounds. Then again, prices i have seen listed on best buy and gamestop match what ign and nintendo have listed but people have been saying higher prices

Edit: i guess it doesn't matter. Got mine pre order from best buy several hours before it was offically revealed they were doing pre orders. A whole 5+ hours to be more precise.
 
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That doesn't seem right. From what been reading, it should be being sold at 299 pounds. Then again, prices i have seen listed on best buy and gamestop match what ign and nintendo have listed but people have been saying higher prices

Well the Lord of Nintendo gave on the record 2 actual prices (JPY & USD) and a nebulous "check your local retailer" - any info you received from any other source is suspect, comparatively, I think :)
 

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I for one loved the wii but the wii U i did not get because to me all that thing was is a wii with a new controller but as for the switch tho from what i seen of it i like it and will be buying it when it comes out.
 

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No actually.. it has a better lineup than Xbone and PS4. A hell of a lot better than the NGC and PS2, ungodly better than the NGC and PS1. And maybe if your generous, equal to SNES genesis.
 

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I'm far from sold on it. The Joy Con gimmicks seem kinda stupid and the kind of thing that like 3 other early Switch Games will use and none others will make decent use of.

The launch lineup is a joke. If I get one, it certainly won't be at launch. I can play the only launch game worth playing, BoTW, on the Wii U when it comes out. It's not like the Switch version looks more impressive or anything.

Probably going to wait for the homebrew scene to pick up before I buy one honestly. Not for piracy but Nintendo consoles seem to be made a whole lot better once people start modding them. It's not going to kill me missing out on Mario Odyssey, an 'enhanced' port of MK8 and a port of Splatoon with a little more content.

Kinda disappointed because I usually think of myself as a huge Nintendo fan. The Switch just really isn't doing it for me from what I've seen.
 

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