Hacking Official ShadowNAND

MGVoltJesk · Jan 5, 2017

Shadowhand said:
It appears you did. I'm sorry for your loss.

If i Hardmod my 3ds, can i try injecting my nand backup?

el_gonz87 · Jan 5, 2017

GrayMelting said:
If i Hardmod my 3ds, can i try injecting my nand backup?

Was it pre-installing shadownand? if so then yes.

MGVoltJesk · Jan 5, 2017

el_gonz87 said:
Was it pre-installing shadownand? if so then yes.

Yes it is!, Thanks for the response.

rhai · Jan 16, 2017

@Shadowhand
I already have ShadowNAND on my New3DS. I already purchased this as is and I would like to try a9lh without ShadowNAND. I do not have OTP.bin as I already got this console like this already. With this, how can I safely remove ShadowNAND and replace it without worries of bricking? I am unable to get access to Hardmod.

Would running the latest SafeA9LHInstaller be okay? If not, what are my guaranteed options?

Thanks Much!

annson24 · Jan 16, 2017

rhai said:
@Shadowhand
I already have ShadowNAND on my New3DS. I already purchased this as is and I would like to try a9lh without ShadowNAND. I do not have OTP.bin as I already got this console like this already. With this, how can I safely remove ShadowNAND and replace it without worries of bricking? I am unable to get access to Hardmod.

Would running the latest SafeA9LHInstaller be okay? If not, what are my guaranteed options?

Thanks Much!

Just follow this one https://3ds.guide/updating-a9lh. No need to have the OTP.

rhai · Jan 16, 2017

Aletron9000 said:
ok, wish me luck

EDIT: Thank you, no bricks today!

Thanks for this! Wish me luck also!

annson24 said:
Just follow this one https://3ds.guide/updating-a9lh. No need to have the OTP.

Thanks for replying. I apologize as I did not read back the previous posts.

@Shadowhand
Is it possible to include the uninstall information in the first post? This may help people avoid asking this question again.

Quantumcat · Jan 16, 2017

rhai said:
Thanks for this! Wish me luck also!

Thanks for replying. I apologize as I did not read back the previous posts.

@Shadowhand
Is it possible to include the uninstall information in the first post? This may help people avoid asking this question again.

He probably doesn't want people uninstalling it :-p

The Catboy · Jan 16, 2017

rhai said:
Thanks for this! Wish me luck also!

Thanks for replying. I apologize as I did not read back the previous posts.

@Shadowhand
Is it possible to include the uninstall information in the first post? This may help people avoid asking this question again.

You can just use Safe A9LH installer

Shadowhand · Jan 16, 2017

rhai said:
@Shadowhand
Is it possible to include the uninstall information in the first post? This may help people avoid asking this question again.

Uninstallation is unsafe, as uninstalling it means you're stuck at your current firmware (most likely 11.2) with no way to install A9LH again.
That's why there's no official supported way of doing so.

I_AM_L_FORCE · Jan 16, 2017

Shadowhand said:
Uninstallation is unsafe, as uninstalling it means you're stuck at your current firmware (most likely 11.2) with no way to install A9LH again.
That's why there's no official supported way of doing so.

But one can easily do a 9.2 CTRtransfer. Plus 11.2 is the "safe" firmware now.

Shadowhand · Jan 16, 2017

I_AM_L_FORCE said:
But one can easily do a 9.2 CTRtransfer. Plus 11.2 is the "safe" firmware now.

Can it be downgraded to 11.2 without hardmod/dsiwarehax? Also you can't do 9.2 CTRTransfer without arm9. There's a reason why we downgrade to 9.2 first, then do 2.1 CTRTransfer. You can CTRTransfer 9.2 beforehand, but then you'd know enough to be able to uninstall ShadowNAND and install regular A9LH.

I_AM_L_FORCE · Jan 16, 2017

Shadowhand said:
Can it be downgraded to 11.2 without hardmod/dsiwarehax? Also you can't do 9.2 CTRTransfer without arm9. There's a reason why we downgrade to 9.2 first, then do 2.1 CTRTransfer. You can CTRTransfer 9.2 beforehand, but then you'd know enough to be able to uninstall ShadowNAND and install regular A9LH.

You've been out of the scene for a while, bud. You can directly execute arm9 payloads on 11.2 now, for free.

Shadowhand · Jan 16, 2017

I_AM_L_FORCE said:
You've been out of the scene for a while, bud. You can directly execute arm9 payloads on 11.2 now, for free.

Oh dang. Yeah, I've been really busy irl.

I_AM_L_FORCE · Jan 16, 2017

And

Shadowhand said:
Oh dang. Yeah, I've been really busy irl.

Fasthax = New arm11 exploit
Safehax = New arm9 exploit.

Just so you know if you hear them around

el_gonz87 · Jan 16, 2017

Shadowhand said:
Can it be downgraded to 11.2 without hardmod/dsiwarehax? Also you can't do 9.2 CTRTransfer without arm9. There's a reason why we downgrade to 9.2 first, then do 2.1 CTRTransfer. You can CTRTransfer 9.2 beforehand, but then you'd know enough to be able to uninstall ShadowNAND and install regular A9LH.

EDIT: Ninja'd

In my opinion the true danger to uninstalling is if one messed with files such as secureinfo or installed custom menus. When uninstalling with these, it causes a brick.

Safest way to uninstall is Decrypt9 with pre-modded NAND backup.

Shadowhand · Jan 16, 2017

I_AM_L_FORCE said:
And

Fasthax = New arm11 exploit
Safehax = New arm9 exploit.

Just so you know if you hear them around

Thanks.

el_gonz87 said:
EDIT: Ninja'd

In my opinion the true danger to uninstalling is if one messed with files such as secureinfo or installed custom menus. When uninstalling with these, it causes a brick.

ShadowNAND won't launch with edited secureinfo, so that's out of the question. But either way, the safest way to uninstall ShadowNAND is to replace it with another A9LH fork.

annson24 · Jan 16, 2017

Shadowhand said:
Thanks.

ShadowNAND won't launch with edited secureinfo, so that's out of the question. But either way, the safest way to uninstall ShadowNAND is to replace it with another A9LH fork.

Or restore a clean nand backup without keeping a9lh/shadownand.

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rhai · Jan 16, 2017

annson24 said:
Or restore a clean nand backup without keeping a9lh/shadownand.

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

I have a clean NAND but I am unsure if I restore this over. I do not know the system version of the clean nand backup. Should I flash this and attempt to apply A9LH again by following Plailect's guide?

As mentioned, I do not know the firmware version of the clean nand. Should I be safe regardless of what version it is?
Also, should I uninstall all my installed games and apps as I am unsure if my installed games are "Legit CIA's"
e.g. "CHMM2, JK's Save Manager, Luma Updater, etc."

kumikochan · Jan 16, 2017

well i switched over from shadownand to al9h again but 1 thing i did notice is that shadownand boots up instantly when al9h doesn't and takes a couple of seconds.

democracy · Feb 9, 2017

was Firmwrite protection for SAFE_MODE ever implemented, Op seems to suggest this feature hasn't been added yet. That means you can boot into safe mode and try to restore which may either result in a brick or uninstalling arm9hax right?

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Which path would you like ShadowNAND and SaltFW to have?

SD Root (like Luma3DS, and other A9LH forks)

/3ds/

/3ds/data

/homebrew/

/homebrew/3ds/

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