Poll: Your thoughts on the Switch

osaka35 · Jan 16, 2017

geodeath said:
You are right in explaining people's expectations but the industry has switched (pun not intended) to a model where they will only take the plunge to bring expensive and AAA titles to machines that are easy to port to. The idea that Nintendo is different is very welcome. It is the LACK of comprehension of the video games industry as it stands nowadays that makes people angry, because it WILL put Nintendo deeper in manufacturer hell. We want Nintendo to thrive and to be a company we pride ourselves aligning with. I am tired of being bullied because Nintendo will fuck up in pretty much all departments but innovation, leading to almost no 3rd party support at all. You say sony and ms only leverage the upgrade itch without focusing on the funnes. It might be right, however, exactly because of the way the industry works today, this is exactly the behaviour that brings titles people want on their machines, which at the end of the day leads to FUN. I had more than 50x times the fun on my ps4 than my WiiU. Not because of bad quality software on the WiiU or because it was not powerful enough when it came out but because it did not attract developers.

Nintendo can make their fluffy games all year long on fast and slow hardware. AAA titles will never come to slow hardware or completely different architectures. You can fight conformity and still deliver on all other aspects. I am asking again, what would it mean, if nintendo produced 2 Switches, one for home, one mobile, where the differences are that the home one is a beast without ANY mobile capabilities, matching the ps4 pro and the mobile one being either what it is or something similar? The home console would be priced at the same level as the ps4 pro, leading to the SAME EXACT games people buy the ps4 for and having the mobile market so close at hand, by downgrading the game a bit would be the best of both worlds.

They could give people a choice. Do you want a portable? Do you prefer a home console? I cannot see why i MUST pay for yet another tablet with a touchscreen etc etc etc when all i really will do with the switch is play in the tv. Especially now that we know it is going to be massively underclocked when not docked.

Still don't get it. They shove many features for which many people do not care about and cost money then obviously they sell at a price which raises eyebrows. I like Nintendo's approach when it comes to innovation but they are *completely* out of touch with reality and long term planning.

At the end, i am paying a lot of money for a console mode i will never ever use, for a home console that price to performance speaking is severely lacking and for what? Joining the software modes of mobile + home is awesome but it could be done in a better way.

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I do not care for cheaper, i have all the money i need to outstock the local Game out of controllers. It is *fair* pricing i am angry about. It is not like we did not bankroll Nintendo through the good and bad already. They should treat at least their ambassadors and close followers with more respect and not treat you like an idiot, selling you yesteryear's technology at eye watering prices. At least have some kind of rewards/upgrade plan whatever. Something to at least buy a few of the things in a bundle and not separately. They are really milking the cow this time around.

So what you'd like to see is a nintendo machine that AAA want to put their games on first, as well as nintendo doing their thing so they can be ruler of consoles again? That's pretty dang fair. I do wonder if that's how it'd go down though.

I wouldn't say it's a lack of touch with reality and long term planning, so much as a lack of touch for the world market. The switch seems like a tailor-made japanese console. Portable, powerful (compared to 3ds/vita), quirky fun, and as you called it, a decent amount of "fluffy". It's pretty ideal for me and my taste, and my needs. Perhaps they figured what works for the japanese market works for the world market. Hopefully they're right.

The sad thing would be the inability to port games. the switch should be able to use, for lack of a better word, "low" settings, while one and ps4 use "high" settings. If only it were that easy. I'd rather play low settings on the go, and ultra on my computer. I have a PC for any PS4/one games that I want to play (forever exclusives list is tiny and doesn't have anything particularly up my alley). My girlfriend does have a PS4 though, so I'm pretty familiar with it.

Also to note, most people have an xbox one and ps4, and won't have a terrible pressing need to upgrade. It'll be interesting to see how that affects things.

Saiyan Lusitano · Jan 16, 2017

Is anyone else super disappointed by how utterly awful the launch titles of Switch are? It's only about 5 games and only 1 or 2 games worth picking up. That is terrible. At this point I'm going to be basically buying the Switch to play Zelda. Why the hell isn't there a Mario, F-Zero and Metroid game on launch?!

The Switch also has the same exact amount of internal storage space as the WiiU did -- 32GB. Nintendo didn't even bring it up to 64GB or higher, nope, just keep the same as before because it makes total sense to include only 32GB in 2017.

Very questionable decisions by Nintendo. And then there's the overpriced Switch Pro Controller that I want to get but can't justify paying the price demanded.

KingVamp · Jan 16, 2017

Sure. Raised the internal storage, so more people can complain about the price of the console. Which isn't even that high in the first place.

MontyQ · Jan 16, 2017

anytime in the next 6 weeks there could be many more games coming for launch and the info well trickle in to hold interest maybe

Saiyan Lusitano · Jan 16, 2017

KingVamp said:
Sure. Raised the internal storage, so more people can complain about the price of the console. Which isn't even that high in the first place.

That's just damage control what you're doing. You're basically saying that Nintendo couldn't afford to include 64GB or 128GB on the Switch because it's "cheaper" than other consoles.

The WiiU was $349,99 and only had a miserable 32GB storage space.

GamerUnity · Jan 16, 2017

Honest thoughts, but I wouldn't mind the price increasing a few dollars like $310 or maybe even $320 to improve some aspects of the switch like storage. They could have upped their game on the launch titles though with games like Terraria, Minecraft, Darkest Dungeon, etc.

There are so many good features of the Switch that is so unique that it could most likely enter as one of the most-selling consoles/handhelds or maybe both.

The joycons are awesome. I have yet to try one but the split controllers are a fantastic idea. One con though is that the left and the right isn't equal in terms of the distance between the analog sticks and the action buttons.

I fear that it'll be successful and then a "NEW" Switch edition comes out, faster than the old one we previously bought.

They could have also made new games from tons of dead and forgotten series of games, like Megaman and Metroid, F-zero.

chartube12 · Jan 16, 2017

EverythingSuperMario said:
I'm slightly disappointed. The lack of good launch games.

The same went for the xbox one and the nintendo ds. I bought an Xbox one just under a year after it's original release. It didn't have a lot outside of ports for an additional 10 months after I bought it. So nearly two years for a large selection.

The Nintendo DS....Bought it on launch day in 2004 and it didn't have alot of titles until mid-2007. It took soooo long for it's selection of games to grow I nearly sold it several times. I have been carefully watching all console launches since. Now I only buy a new system if it has enough titles for me to play in the first year.

KingVamp · Jan 16, 2017

Saiyan Lusitano said:
That's just damage control what you're doing. You're basically saying that Nintendo couldn't afford to include 64GB or 128GB on the Switch because it's "cheaper" than other consoles.

The WiiU was $349,99 and only had a miserable 32GB storage space.

Switch is also stronger while being portable, yet cheaper than the Wii U and still have 32GB, but that's beside the point. More memory will raise the price, a price people are already complaining about. That just isn't disputable.

Saiyan Lusitano · Jan 16, 2017

KingVamp said:
Switch is also stronger while being portable, yet cheaper than the Wii U and still have 32GB, but that's beside the point. More memory will raise the price, a price people are already complaining about. That just isn't disputable.

And now you're confusing memory with storage.

xile6 · Jan 16, 2017

I like it.
It seems cool, So i preorder it and got zelda. Hopefully it will be a long game and keep my busy until something else comes out.
I get most systems at launch anyways, and just wait for games to come out down the way.

But as for the system like i said, it seems cool. I like what it can do. Yes it should of came out a few years ago. If it would of replace the wii u then i think Nintendo would of been rolling in money by now.

But either way it seems like a good upgrade on Nintendo part.

geodeath · Jan 16, 2017

osaka35 said:
So what you'd like to see is a nintendo machine that AAA want to put their games on first, as well as nintendo doing their thing so they can be ruler of consoles again? That's pretty dang fair. I do wonder if that's how it'd go down though.

I wouldn't say it's a lack of touch with reality and long term planning, so much as a lack of touch for the world market. The switch seems like a tailor-made japanese console. Portable, powerful (compared to 3ds/vita), quirky fun, and as you called it, a decent amount of "fluffy". It's pretty ideal for me and my taste, and my needs. Perhaps they figured what works for the japanese market works for the world market. Hopefully they're right.

The sad thing would be the inability to port games. the switch should be able to use, for lack of a better word, "low" settings, while one and ps4 use "high" settings. If only it were that easy. I'd rather play low settings on the go, and ultra on my computer. I have a PC for any PS4/one games that I want to play (forever exclusives list is tiny and doesn't have anything particularly up my alley). My girlfriend does have a PS4 though, so I'm pretty familiar with it.

Also to note, most people have an xbox one and ps4, and won't have a terrible pressing need to upgrade. It'll be interesting to see how that affects things.

I am happy with the Switch as it is *for me*, (other then the price) since i have all consoles and i always get all consoles for all the exclusives and because i only play strategy games on my PC, which is pretty much never. It is mostly for how it will appeal to the market. If Nintendo manages to pull an Apple and make a lot of people join the Switch-wagon i am happy. It is my doubt it will keep them afloat in the console market that makes me nervous and angry at their decisions.

They do not need to be the ruler or the 1st decision when it comes to AAA, just that it does get them, even not perfect. If the Switch gets the Assassin's creeds, the Cods, the NFS's the Tomb Raider's, the GTA's and yada yada all the other ones, but at a smaller resolution or fidelity i can stand that and many people would probably prefer portability vs power in that case. When power is the deciding factor of porting a game over though or not, that is where i am nervous and i think this is exactly where we are. Let's see!

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KingVamp said:
Sure. Raised the internal storage, so more people can complain about the price of the console. Which isn't even that high in the first place.

Out of all the bells and whistles Nintendo added, changing the 32gb to 128 or even 256gb would cost from $1 to $10. It would raise the price for a tenner, but THEN people could at least say, HEY at least they got storage right! Got an 128gb ultra speed high quality sd card for my camera the other day from the high street (means online is much cheaper) for $27. That is retail, high street, in a form and case and packaging. Think about it. Storage is not expensive, but Nintendo could at least do that to rub it in people's eyes.

NakedFaerie · Jan 16, 2017

I got a WiiU and got burned by it. NintenDOH did nothing with it. They were a-holes to game devs so they released no games for it. NintenDOH failed the console themselves. They could've done a lot more with it. Remember MiiTV? Well it never happened. When I brought the console it had that MiiTV icon but "wasn't available in your region" and eventually it got deleted. So they had features they never finished and instead just deleted.
They killed it off themselves, nobody but NintenDOH are to blame for the demise of the WiiU. The only reason its going great now is the ability to play backups. Well its not going great actually its a dead console. Its got 1 game coming for it but we'll see if it actually gets released or not. I'm telling everyone to get one for the backups but nobody wants one. I'm not even sure where to get one from as no shops sell them anymore.

They are a stupid company and they look like they will do the exact same with the switch. It will fail, not in the first year but when they start being a-holes again to game devs you will see a lot of games getting canceled and not released again.
There were about 30 games named as coming for the WiiU that never got released all because NintenDOH are a-holes. Some were weeks away from release when they were canceled. Whats the reason behind the cancellation of those games? They were finished but never released. Some games had release dates then get delayed then delayed again then canceled.

After all that And the risk of getting my NNID banned I'm not going to get another NintenDOH console again. They suck even more than Micro$oft and they suck pretty bad. Have you seen the GUI of the Xbox One? Its a complete mess. A nightmare to navigate. At least the PS4 has all its games in one need row. The WiiU has a nice grid system. The Xbox One has a mess. I've had the console twice now and still cant find where my previous purchases are kept?
Even the games I installed I'm unsure where to find them. Lucky there is that PIN thing so I can play some games but there are others installed somewhere? Its just a nightmare to find things its so messy and full of ads. Its a stupid console thats why I dont have it anymore. After 2 days I had to return it to the shop. Stupid console. If it was easy to navigate like the PS4 or WiiU I would've kept it but their stupid design its a huge NO from me.

Anyway, back to the switch. It looks like a Vita. A console $ony shouldn't have killed off as that would be a Switch killer.
The Switch is like a kiddy version of a Vita. Its got kiddy colored, tiny kid size controllers. Thats why they can attach so anyone over the age of 12 can still use it.
They say its not a 3DS or WiiU replacement. Then what is it? Its supposed to be more powerful than the WiiU so it replaces that. Its portable so its replaces the 3DS.
I'm guessing if your like me and already own a WiiU and 3DS then after using the Switch you will go back to the 3DS and WiiU as they are better consoles?

In the end, the switch is stupid and will fail Thats my opinion. $ony killed the Vita off for some reason. If that cant live the switch has no chance.

VMM · Jan 16, 2017

Saiyan Lusitano said:
And now you're confusing memory with storage.

It is memory. The difference is RAM memory is volatile and the internal storage isn't.

Saiyan Lusitano · Jan 16, 2017

VMM said:
It is memory. The difference is RAM memory is volatile and the internal storage isn't.

32GB isn't memory it's storage.

VMM · Jan 16, 2017

Saiyan Lusitano said:
32GB isn't memory it's storage.

The internal storage is a flash memory. You clearly don't know the definition of memory

Saiyan Lusitano · Jan 16, 2017

VMM said:
The internal storage is a flash memory. You clearly don't know the definition of memory

RAM memory is different from storage which is what this is.

VMM · Jan 16, 2017

Saiyan Lusitano said:
RAM memory is different from storage which is what this is.

You don't get it at all, the storage and RAM are different, but both are kinds of memory.

TotalInsanity4 · Jan 16, 2017

Saiyan Lusitano said:
RAM memory is different from storage which is what this is.

It should also be mentioned that with current SD technologies that capacity can be expanded to 512GB, and with the upper (and yet unreached) limit for the SDXC standard, eventually 2 terabytes

chartube12 · Jan 16, 2017

geodeath said:
I am happy with the Switch as it is *for me*, (other then the price) since i have all consoles and i always get all consoles for all the exclusives and because i only play strategy games on my PC, which is pretty much never. It is mostly for how it will appeal to the market. If Nintendo manages to pull an Apple and make a lot of people join the Switch-wagon i am happy. It is my doubt it will keep them afloat in the console market that makes me nervous and angry at their decisions.

They do not need to be the ruler or the 1st decision when it comes to AAA, just that it does get them, even not perfect. If the Switch gets the Assassin's creeds, the Cods, the NFS's the Tomb Raider's, the GTA's and yada yada all the other ones, but at a smaller resolution or fidelity i can stand that and many people would probably prefer portability vs power in that case. When power is the deciding factor of porting a game over though or not, that is where i am nervous and i think this is exactly where we are. Let's see!

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Out of all the bells and whistles Nintendo added, changing the 32gb to 128 or even 256gb would cost from $1 to $10. It would raise the price for a tenner, but THEN people could at least say, HEY at least they got storage right! Got an 128gb ultra speed high quality sd card for my camera the other day from the high street (means online is much cheaper) for $27. That is retail, high street, in a form and case and packaging. Think about it. Storage is not expensive, but Nintendo could at least do that to rub it in people's eyes.

I rather of had 64gb to start. It cost pennys difference between most 32gb and 64gb cards now. On the other hand in November 128 gb prices are supposed to drop down to 64 prices according to scandigital.

grossaffe · Jan 16, 2017

geodeath said:
You cannot compare a graphics card to a console because they do not server the same purpose. However the switch, ps4, xbone etc you can all buy them off the shelf and be playing in your living room in a few minutes. Also, graphics cards and the ps4 are not sold as they same product or even placed next to each other in the shops. You are missing a point here - we are not saying that power itself is going to sell or not sell a console, but if you put all of the things switch is offering next to what a ps4 offers (not to mention how much marketing and how long it has been around, making it a "safe" choice in the eyes of prospecting buyers who do not give a rat's ass about loyalty to a company like me & you do) and you put then in the next shelf, people will compare *WITHOUT* thinking if comparison is fair or not. When you are going to buy a car, you do not think like this, do you? That's why it is important to not release too far after your competition or too much behind, you are either in front of the race (and as such might be too new) or if you release after a long time you can miss the generation train.

So you can't compare a PC to a console, but you're okay comparing a home console tied down to a TV and power supply to a handheld device that you can pick up and play on-the-go? Okay.

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