Gaming Has anyone gotten banned from playing Pokemon Moon online?

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I guess the same header, I mean it's the legit cart, and then the rom, and I used the private header dumped from that legit cart.
Ah, that was very likely the cause then. Did you go online with both at the same time? If yes then they likely detected it that way, much like they ban public headers. Only a single unique headet should ever be online at any given time. It would be trivial for them to see that 2 games have the same header online at once.
 
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I said that already, to speed up the GTS request taking process. I already had an old save with the dex complete (for quick searching purposes). I would send a pokemon on one system, then do it on another, 2 trades at once instead of 1, as I realized the time spent trading is very significant. Genning the pokemon is rather quick, a couple seconds compared to 20-30 seconds, and when you're doing 25 requests or so an hour, with time spent searching and sifting through other deposits, yeah it takes up time and I want to make it easy on myself. It's bad enough there are not enough genners to help out, it's bad enough that I'm the only genner on the clock and basically with no life, thus being able to spend absurd amounts of time on requests, it's bad enough that on multiple occasions I've stayed up near, even exactly 24 hours and at least one time, could not catch up with requests, I crashed. So I didn't commit the Gateway sin out of selfishness, piracy, any kind of cheating. I did it basically to help myself and in turn help people.

Edit: about the header thing, I used headers I dumped from the carts themselves. I think it's a save thing, because it was two of the same save, just different in time and game progression.
If you used a cartridge and a gateway dump using that same cartridge's header at the same time, it's exactly the same as using a public header. Public headers are public because they're essentially a game's name tag, and if multiple people were using a GW dump with a publicly available header they would get banned for using the same game at essentially two simultaneous occasions (which can only result through something fishy).

It's essentiallay the same situation. You used a legit game and it's header online at the same time, which meant thst a game was essentially online at two simultaneous occasions. That's probably why you got banned.
 
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I was really just trying to get a grasp on what else they can be looking for.

Oh, then you're semi-golden.

If you haven't been banned yet, just keep doing what you're doing. I'll definitely let you know if I get banned for anything, part two.

Interesting to note, if you added yourself as a friend on another console and do get banned, Nintendo changes your FC and erases you from non-banned consoles.
 

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Ah, that was very likely the cause then. Did you go online with both at the same time? If yes then they likely detected it that way, much like they ban public headers. Only a single unique headet should ever be online at any given time. It would be trivial for them to see that 2 games have the same header online at once.

That is correct, at the same time, the third console must've been banned for the same reason. I switched consoles for the legit cart due to different friend codes, doing a GTS request in one, FC trade in another, all while the one 3DS serving as the GW player, was online with the Sun ROM. At least I have a clearer understanding of the ban. This might explain why so far on the few times I've been online with Sun since the ban, that the other 3DS playing it hasn't been banned. Still, I'll play it safe and just not go online at all until the ban's lifted. I only did for requests. Don't do requests, don't go online, simple, and I really need the break.

If you used a cartridge and a gateway dump using that same cartridge's header at the same time, it's exactly the same as using a public header. Public headers are public because they're essentially a game's name tag, and if multiple people were using a GW dump with a publicly available header they would get banned for using the same game at essentially two simultaneous occasions (which can only result through something fishy).

It's essentiallay the same situation. You used a legit game and it's header online at the same time, which meant thst a game was essentially online at two simultaneous occasions. That's probably why you got banned.

Ahh, well dammit to myself. At least it's temporary.
 

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Oh, then you're semi-golden.

If you haven't been banned yet, just keep doing what you're doing. I'll definitely let you know if I get banned for anything, part two.

Interesting to note, if you added yourself as a friend on another console and do get banned, Nintendo changes your FC and erases you from non-banned consoles.
... nice tracking I guess...
 
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That is correct, at the same time, the third console must've been banned for the same reason. I switched consoles for the legit cart due to different friend codes, doing a GTS request in one, FC trade in another, all while the one 3DS serving as the GW player, was online with the Sun ROM. At least I have a clearer understanding of the ban. This might explain why so far on the few times I've been online with Sun since the ban, that the other 3DS playing it hasn't been banned. Still, I'll play it safe and just not go online at all until the ban's lifted. I only did for requests. Don't do requests, don't go online, simple, and I really need the break.



Ahh, well dammit to myself. At least it's temporary.
Just use different headers for each game, or use cia's and youll be fine, but yea, just wait for the ban to be lifted. No need risking a permaban.
 
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That is correct, at the same time, the third console must've been banned for the same reason. I switched consoles for the legit cart due to different friend codes, doing a GTS request in one, FC trade in another, all while the one 3DS serving as the GW player, was online with the Sun ROM. At least I have a clearer understanding of the ban. This might explain why so far on the few times I've been online with Sun since the ban, that the other 3DS playing it hasn't been banned. Still, I'll play it safe and just not go online at all until the ban's lifted. I only did for requests. Don't do requests, don't go online, simple, and I really need the break.



Ahh, well dammit to myself. At least it's temporary.
Yeah, historically I think the bans have been temps. Also as a sidenote, if you use the header of a game that does NOT match your copy of sun, you might be able to use it with sun on gateway anyway and, in that way, be able to use both sun and gateway-sun at the same time. For example, if you have a copy of ORAS lying around, use its header with sun and leave your legit sun header alone, and you'll be able to use the sun cartridge and the gateway-sun at the same time. Make sure to confirm with someone who actually has a flashcart tho. Or just use a cia, those don't care about headers.
 
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Yeah, historically I think the bans have been temps. Also as a sidenote, if you use the header of a game that does NOT match your copy of sun, you might be able to use it with sun on gateway anyway and, in that way, be able to use both sun and gateway-sun at the same time. For example, if you have a copy of ORAS lying around, use its header with sun and leave your legit sun header alone, and you'll be able to use the sun cartridge and the gateway-sun at the same time. Make sure to confirm with someone who actually has a flashcart tho. Or just use a cia, those don't care about headers.
Just fyi cia's do use headers, but they are generated by your console info as opposed to a game cart, so each console with the same cia would be unique. The more you know.
 

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Well I'm ok with this
Still want to make a last thanks to Alucard for the lfcs that got me to play online just a little bit more!
Not a problem m8. Glad I could help.

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Welp, turns out being cautious and not jumping on every random discord being thrown out backfired.

If by chance someone doesn't see the need to be a special snowflake and remind people constantly about his sparkly thing that is his precious and so on... and instead feels generous around this time of the year, feel free to PM with a link to an unbanned localfriendseed.

Thanks in advance fellas!
Thing was, I was generous, Twice. Both times ended in my being screwed in the ass. Just because I'm not handing out lfcs_b's like candy anymore doesn't mean I'm being greedy. I'm protecting those who weren't complete asswipes and thought they could do as they pleased with the file. The method is out there, You have the chance to get your own lfcs_b, They're not hard to come by, but you certainly cannot generate them. Now, If you'd like to not be a complete dick because you missed your shot, that'd be great. Happy Holidays.
 

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Thing was, I was generous, Twice. Both times ended in my being screwed in the ass. Just because I'm not handing out lfcs_b's like candy anymore doesn't mean I'm being greedy. I'm protecting those who weren't complete asswipes and thought they could do as they pleased with the file. The method is out there, You have the chance to get your own lfcs_b, They're not hard to come by, but you certainly cannot generate them. Now, If you'd like to not be a complete dick because you missed your shot, that'd be great. Happy Holidays.

Fancy how you instantly feel the need to defend yourself when I didn't call out anyone specific. Someone was kind enough to drop his lfcs_b into my inbox, so whether you call me being upfront about certain peoples behaviour dick-ish or not doesn't affect me much. Happy Holidays to you as well.
 
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It will be banned instantly.

Oh, then I meant, '4 teh lulz'.


I really think with, and this might seem a little odd, thirty seeds, we'd get one or two months.
I say that because if 1/3 gets banned, some of those people in the 're-banned' will migrate to the other 2/3 (1/2) and burn those out even faster.

I really wish @'rustinpeace recorded that conversation with 'tendo, so we could hear the, '....temporary ban...', then we could guesstimate how long we need to do this.
 

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I really wish @'rustinpeace recorded that conversation with 'tendo, so we could hear the, '....temporary ban...', then we could guesstimate how long we need to do this.

I know the bans to pirated SM players was permanent, and they'd get the 2812 error code that also banned their NNIDs. My case, just the 0102, I can get on eshop just fine. They said temporary, I brought up the 15 day thing, but this person couldn't confirm it, thus I have no idea if that applies to me. Half of the conversation was spent waiting, being put on hold a bunch of times. Towards the end I got mad and that reflected my words towards the lady. I was more pissed about the pirated speculation, I even knocked on the steelbook and had her listen, some sort of proof that I bought the steelbook edition, which came with both Sun and Moon. Since learning about headers and the Gateway theory being the most probable one, I'm calmer and rather disappointed in myself for making the mistake. At the same time, probably happy because it forces me not to take requests, and actually sleep like a normal person.

If Sun/Moon ran fine on O3DS, then I'd be still taking requests and the bans wouldn't be bothersome, but the problem is those games are almost exclusive to N3DS. Even without the hacking tools, just going by the fact the title screen loads much quicker on N3DS than on O3DS, the graphics are a little, razory on the O3DS, if that makes sense, a bit blurry on the top screen too. In contrast an N3DS with the same screens, dual TNs, renders the graphics much better. Anyways, yeah, nothing to do but just wait. It'd be nice though if they lift the ban early, but with a vacation from requests essentially, might as well make the most out of it.
 

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Well, I've officially nothing to lose as far as NNID goes, so I might be able to pick up a l i t t l e of your work. Going to lfcs_b my 'garden'. More on that after I complete that project.

I'd probably be doing the same thing to CS. I've learned, those bottom-level grunts don't even know their name; just talk to the head, because that's who they're talking to, anyway. I actually got a voucher for $15.00 from Nestle because I told them I didn't like DiGorno pizza and would have rather eaten the cardboard from Domino's.
If I spoke to a grunt, I would have gotten a 'sorry, try pepperoni.'

As for the gens,I'll PM you when I figure this out.
 

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Fancy how you instantly feel the need to defend yourself when I didn't call out anyone specific. Someone was kind enough to drop his lfcs_b into my inbox, so whether you call me being upfront about certain peoples behaviour dick-ish or not doesn't affect me much. Happy Holidays to you as well.
You weren't specific but it was certainly implied. People need to understand that the less accessible and in the open a seed is, the less likely it is to be banned, as we've come to find recently with the first public seeds ban.
 

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Eh, I don't really need the LFCS, I just miss this Discord's chitchat. It was fun staying in the dev room and reading all that info. Whatever, I think you made right choice
 

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