Hardware Poll: What do you think of the Switch?

What do you think of the Switch?

  • Looks great! I'm definitely interested

    Votes: 762 55.8%
  • Intriguing, but I'll wait to know more before I make up my mind

    Votes: 467 34.2%
  • Not really interested, I don't see the appeal

    Votes: 64 4.7%
  • WTF Nintendo? what is this crap

    Votes: 73 5.3%

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I remember that. I still don't think it won't be a vanilla X2, just like I have back when we first talked about it. :P You're spot-on with your 3-4 hour assessment, I expect this thing to push around 500GFLOPS full-blast, nothing has changed. :P
Nah it can push probably 700glops before any issues arise.

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I remember that. I still don't think it won't be a vanilla X2, just like I have back when we first talked about it. :P You're spot-on with your 3-4 hour assessment, I expect this thing to push around 500GFLOPS full-blast, nothing has changed. :P
When docked this thing will most likely push it to 1.3Tflops assuming there is n additional power in the dock (CPU, GPU, ram etc.) Which I for one think there will be and a lot of rumors are corroborating that. On the X2, seeing as how Nvidia said it was running their latest architecture id say its a custom X2.
 

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Nah it can push probably 700glops before any issues arise.
That's very unlikely unless they managed to run the X2 under 25W at full-blast, which they very well may have. If it's in a tablet though, no heatsink can be used, so anything above 10W is pushing their luck. 500 is a reasonable number considering 750 is top stock - it's 2/3rds, conservative. ;)
When docked this thing will most likely push it to 1.3Tflops assuming there is n additional power in the dock (CPU, GPU, ram etc.) Which I for one think there will be and a lot of rumors are corroborating that. On the X2, seeing as how Nvidia said it was running their latest architecture id say its a custom X2.
There isn't, Nintendo clarified it's a video passthrough and charger only.
 

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That's very unlikely unless they managed to run the X2 under 25W at full-blast, which they very well may have. If it's in a tablet though, no heatsink can be used, so anything above 10W is pushing their luck. 500 is a reasonable number considering 750 is top stock - it's 2/3rds, conservative. ;)
There isn't, Nintendo clarified it's a video passthrough and charger only.
They said that was its main function. They didnt talk about additional functions, on that note, based on these prototypes, id say this dock is a little too bulky to just be a charger, usb port and hdmi pass through.
 

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They said that was its main function. They didnt talk about additional functions, on that note, based on these prototypes, id say this dock is a little too bulky to just be a charger, usb port and hdmi pass through.
Livin' the dream, huh? Just because they can do it doesn't mean they will. It's possible (we discussed this prior in the thread), but very unlikely. It'd just be too costly to implement.
 

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Livin' the dream, huh? Just because they can do it doesn't mean they will. It's possible (we discussed this prior in the thread), but very unlikely. It'd just be too costly to implement.
doubt it would, a small proccesor to do background tasks and additional ram isnt a lot to ask for. Or just an additional GPU.
 

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When docked this thing will most likely push it to 1.3Tflops assuming there is n additional power in the dock (CPU, GPU, ram etc.) Which I for one think there will be and a lot of rumors are corroborating that.
While I can see why you might think they would do this, I don't think it would be a good idea. The whole point of the switch is that you can take all of your console games to go. Every game on the Switch must be able to be played when mobile, so that means developers essentially have to limit the game's graphics anyway, so any extra processing power in the dock would go wasted. All it would do is raise the manufacturing costs (and retail price, perhaps.)

The only alternative I can see is if they developed a method for the OS to dynamically adjust graphics settings when you dock/undock the system. However, that would rely on individual developers utilizing this correctly, as the most demanding visual aspects of a game vary widely depending on the game itself. Also, because there would be a reduction in quality when going mobile, this reduces the consumers enthusiasm about being able to take it with them. Every time you take it out of the dock, you would think to yourself, "Do I want to play in lower-definition and potentially deal with choppy framerate, or just wait until I get home for the best experience?" It would be worth the trade-off for me personally, but I'm sure some people would be bothered by the fact they are getting "second-rate" performance when they take it out of the dock.

Even though you may think of it as adding performance to the docked console, I think many consumers are more likely to perceive it as a reduced mobile experience. That's not the impression you want to give off when your console's whole concept hinges on playing the same game at home and on-the-go.
 

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While I can see why you might think they would do this, I don't think it would be a good idea. The whole point of the switch is that you can take all of your console games to go. Every game on the Switch must be able to be played when mobile, so that means developers essentially have to limit the game's graphics anyway, so any extra processing power in the dock would go wasted. All it would do is raise the manufacturing costs (and retail price, perhaps.)

The only alternative I can see is if they developed a method for the OS to dynamically adjust graphics settings when you dock/undock the system. However, that would rely on individual developers utilizing this correctly, as the most demanding visual aspects of a game vary widely depending on the game itself. Also, because there would be a reduction in quality when going mobile, this reduces the consumers enthusiasm about being able to take it with them. Every time you take it out of the dock, you would think to yourself, "Do I want to play in lower-definition and potentially deal with choppy framerate, or just wait until I get home for the best experience?" It would be worth the trade-off for me personally, but I'm sure some people would be bothered by the fact they are getting "second-rate" performance when they take it out of the dock.

Even though you may think of it as adding performance to the docked console, I think many consumers are more likely to perceive it as a reduced mobile experience. That's not the impression you want to give off when your console's whole concept hinges on playing the same game at home and on-the-go.
Well in the end thats what it will be no matter what, a reduced experience on mobile. Nvidia confirmed that their hardware is scalable so this is not an issue.
 

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doubt it would, a small proccesor to do background tasks and additional ram isnt a lot to ask for. Or just an additional GPU.
Unfortunately it is, trust me. The only interfaces they can use for that kind of connectivity is SLI which isn't asymmetrical (scales to the slowest GPU in the chain) or instantaneous (requires a reboot) or PCIe. The best they could do is add an external GPU, since PCIe is hotswappable. It's doable, just not in the average Nintendo price range. Don't expect miracles.
 
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Unfortunately it is, trust me. The only interfaces they can use for that kind of connectivity is SLI which isn't asymmetrical (scales to the slowest GPU in the chain) or instantaneous (requires a reboot) or PCIe. The best they could do is add an external GPU, since PCIe is hotswappable. It's doable, just not in the average Nintendo price range. Don't expect miracles.
We'll just have to wait and see :P. http://letsplayvideogames.com/2016/10/a-deep-dive-on-lpvgs-nintendo-switch-reports-and-info/
 

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All I can offer you is an explanation of how it'd work in practice, the rumour mill keeps turning until we get word from Nintendo. Their rep said that it's just a power supply and video out and I'm inclined to believe it's precisely that and nothing else, but it's technically feasible to shove more processing power into the dock, it's just complicated.
 

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All I can offer you is an explanation of how it'd work in practice, the rumour mill keeps turning until we get word from Nintendo. Their rep said that it's just a power supply and video out and I'm inclined to believe it's precisely that and nothing else, but it's technically feasible to shove more processing power into the dock, it's just complicated.

Indeed, but i'd say its pretty worthwhile.

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Wheres the option for, "buying irregardless of suckage or awesommity.
So nintendo fanboyism?
 

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I'm just wondering how the hell it's supposed to be "Too big" when people carry huge ass phones and tablets around as it is.

Heck build an e-reader into this thing with access to amazon books and maybe native e-pub and I'd take it everywhere.
 

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I'm just wondering how the hell it's supposed to be "Too big" when people carry huge ass phones and tablets around as it is.

Heck build an e-reader into this thing with access to amazon books and maybe native e-pub and I'd take it everywhere.
Its quite a funny thing isnt it?
 

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Hey.. Remember when the DS came out. I seem to remember people going "Who the fuck would use touch screen to play games?"
OTOH it would've been skewered in its reviews and would've sold very poorly if it hadn't also included a D-pad and analog buttons. Just as with the 3DS, a lot of games are playable on it without using the touchscreen at all.
 
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Everyone let's be reasonable, the dock itself is probably as powerful as 4 xbones combined, also its pretty reasonable to expect a cold fusion based infinite battery at this point.

Of course to keep the costs in the $250 range, it will ship with 2gb of internal storage, expandable via convenient 90's style serial port external HDD which will require its own power supply.

Come on game designers wtf. /reasonable speculation
 
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Everyone let's be reasonable, the dock itself is probably as powerful as 4 xbones combined, also its pretty reasonable to expect a cold fusion based infinite battery at this point.

Of course to keep the costs in the $250 range, it will ship with 2gb of internal storage, expandable via convenient 90's style serial port external HDD which will require its own power supply.

Come on game designers wtf. /reasonable speculation
Would be nice if they included a thunderbolt port on it so that you could accelerate it using an additional eGPU even if there isn't one in the dock.
 

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