[POLL] U.S. Presidential Election 2016

Lacius · Sep 27, 2016

Supster131 said:
This is what we get for not voting for Bernie Sanders. We get a criminal and an idiot fighting like little children.

One has to first commit a crime to be considered a criminal.

the_randomizer · Sep 27, 2016

Glad I didn't watch the debate, I'm not voting for either one for reasons that I will abstain elaborating for.

RevPokemon · Sep 27, 2016

the_randomizer said:
Glad I didn't watch the debate, I'm not voting for either one for reasons that I will abstain elaborating for.

And I respect you for that very much.

TotalInsanity4 · Sep 27, 2016

Supster131 said:
Unfortunately, that's where my opinion differs from yours. I was also a Sanders, but I kind of lean towards Trump. I understand, some of her negative stigma has been blown of proportion, but where did they come from? They came from the shady shit she has done. I didn't really want to support Trump, but I would rather take an idiot over a criminal.

Eh... it would seem as though there's a video you need to watch, because as always John Oliver can say things so much better than I can:

the_randomizer · Sep 27, 2016

SHILLacius said:
How dare you don't support our führer, Hillary Clinton!

*Shrug* I personally couldn't care less about either candidate

SHILLacius said:
But John Oliver is stupid because he dared to say that Hillary made bad decisions in that video!

Hillary is perfect! She has never made any mistakes, and she never will!

Okay, it was kinda cute to be like this with Hillary that and Hillary this, but it's starting to get a little old. Neither candidate is perfect, but you can stop with the her being perfect bit, please? Pretty please with sugar on top? It's starting to kinda freak me out a bit.

RevPokemon · Sep 27, 2016

TotalInsanity4 said:
Eh... it would seem as though there's a video you need to watch, because as always John Oliver can say things so much better than I can:

Sad part is that describes lesser of the evils. Regardless I just hope people realize that they can vote for other options.

TotalInsanity4 · Sep 27, 2016

RevPokemon said:
Sad part is that describes lesser of the evils. Regardless I just hope people realize that they can vote for other options.

I'm glad that there are other options for other people, but honestly Clinton aligns most with my views anyway, particularly in terms of disability status and recognition. For instance, I'm not a fan of the fact that Stein is supportive of the anti-vaccination movement in any form

RevPokemon · Sep 27, 2016

TotalInsanity4 said:
I'm glad that there are other options for other people, but honestly Clinton aligns most with my views anyway, particularly in terms of disability status and recognition. For instance, I'm not a fan of the fact that Stein is supportive of the anti-vaccination movement in any form

http://www.snopes.com/is-green-party-candidate-jill-stein-anti-vaccine/

But regardless if you most agree with Clinton and vote for her because of that then ok. I do however have a problem with people who act as if the big 2 are the ONLY canidates and that said candidates are entitled to your vote.

The Cringe · Sep 27, 2016

TotalInsanity4 said:
Stein is supportive of the anti-vaccination movement in any form

Not true.

http://www.jill2016.com/baseless_anti_vax_attacks_against_dr_jill_stein_distract_from_concerns

Lord M · Sep 27, 2016

The World War III It is already in progress, under the aspect of politics and false democracy.
Wake up folks >_>

TotalInsanity4 · Sep 27, 2016

RevPokemon said:
http://www.snopes.com/is-green-party-candidate-jill-stein-anti-vaccine/

But regardless if you most agree with Clinton and vote for her because of that then ok. I do however have a problem with people who act as if the big 2 are the ONLY canidates and that said candidates are entitled to your vote.

... interesting. I guess I need to tune my news sources a bit finer

Joe88 · Sep 27, 2016

Other than the obvious biased moderator, it was interesting debate.
Trump came out strong early on in the first half but clinton had the advantage in the second half.

Lacius · Sep 27, 2016

RevPokemon said:
Sad part is that describes lesser of the evils. Regardless I just hope people realize that they can vote for other options.

The lesser of two evils is still less evil, although I wouldn't call Clinton remotely analogous to evil.

RevPokemon said:
http://www.snopes.com/is-green-party-candidate-jill-stein-anti-vaccine/

But regardless if you most agree with Clinton and vote for her because of that then ok. I do however have a problem with people who act as if the big 2 are the ONLY canidates and that said candidates are entitled to your vote.

She's still anti-vaccine to a degree. She had peddled some debunked nonsense about mercury in vaccines, she has advocated for parental choice with regard to childhood vaccinations, which is a terrible idea, and she consistently panders to the anti-vaccination crowd. Regardless of whether or not we want to call that anti-vaccine, it's enough to demonstrate poor judgment on her part.

Joe88 said:
Trump came out strong early on in the first half but clinton had the advantage in the second half.

That sounds about right. My belief is that, in an effort to rise above the fray and not come off as hostile, Clinton allowed a lot of his nonsense by. She had several openings for some pretty good zingers that she didn't take (and some that she did), and it was sometimes frustrating to watch.

Regardless though, after everything's said and done, Clinton appears to have come out the victor after the debate, with a CNN poll saying 62% of people thought she was the winner. These kinds of polls have historically been pretty accurate with regard to predicting immediate future bumps in the election polls, and she's apparently won by the third-largest margin since this kind of polling has existed. For context, Hillary's margin of victory here is comparable to but not as large as Romney's victory after his first debate with President Obama.

Zyteus · Sep 27, 2016

Gary Johnson. I greatly dislike both Trump and Clinton and not voting at all is the same as voting for them. So I will vote against them, even though one of them is going to win, just to say I lowered their chance at winning, even though it is only by a minuscule amount.

RevPokemon · Sep 27, 2016

Lacius said:
The lesser of two evils is still less evil, although I wouldn't call Clinton remotely analogous to evil.

It depends but in the terminology you could say if you think said candidate will do harm to your country then you could describe that as "evil" although it is subjective

Lacius said:
She's still anti-vaccine to a degree. She had peddled some debunked nonsense about mercury in vaccines, she has advocated for parental choice with regard to childhood vaccinations, which is a terrible idea, and she consistently panders to the anti-vaccination crowd. Regardless of whether or not we want to call that anti-vaccine, it's enough to demonstrate poor judgment on her part.

For what it is worth same for Clinton who previously stated they could be an environmental cause of autism although she changed positions and association with Mark Hyman.

Lacius said:
That sounds about right. My belief is that, in an effort to rise above the fray and not come off as hostile, Clinton allowed a lot of his nonsense by. She had several openings for some pretty good zingers that she didn't take (and some that she did), and it was sometimes frustrating to watch.

Regardless though, after everything's said and done, Clinton appears to have come out the victor after the debate, with a CNN poll saying 62% of people thought she was the winner. These kinds of polls have historically been pretty accurate with regard to predicting immediate future bumps in the election polls, and she's apparently won by the third-largest margin since this kind of polling has existed. For context, Hillary's margin of victory here is comparable to but not as large as Romney's victory after his first debate with President Obama.

The CNN poll was overly Democrats but the numbers sound about right and it should help her or at least hurt Trump. Regardless I thought it was all in all an awful debate.

Zyteus said:
Gary Johnson. I greatly dislike both Trump and Clinton and not voting at all is the same as voting for them. So I will vote against them, even though one of them is going to win, just to say I lowered their chance at winning, even though it is only by a minuscule amount.

*Sees this*
*hugs*

Joe88 · Sep 27, 2016

Lacius said:
Regardless though, after everything's said and done, Clinton appears to have come out the victor after the debate, with a CNN poll saying 62% of people thought she was the winner. These kinds of polls have historically been pretty accurate with regard to predicting immediate future bumps in the election polls, and she's apparently won by the third-largest margin since this kind of polling has existed. For context, Hillary's margin of victory here is comparable to but not as large as Romney's victory after his first debate with President Obama.

Of course she won when they sampled 15% more democrats than republicans

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2016/images/09/27/poll.pdf

Trump also won every other online poll but again none of these polls mean anything

RevPokemon · Sep 27, 2016

Joe88 said:
Of course she won when they sampled 15% more democrats than republicans

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2016/images/09/27/poll.pdf

Trump also won every other online poll but again none of these polls mean anything

Most of those sources are very biased

Lacius · Sep 27, 2016

RevPokemon said:
For what it is worth same for Clinton who previously stated they could be an environmental cause of autism although she changed positions and association with Mark Hyman.

Regardless, she's the only candidate now whom I would describe as pro-vaccine.

RevPokemon said:
The CNN poll was overly Democrats but the numbers sound about right and it should help her or at least hurt Trump.

Joe88 said:
Of course she won when they sampled 15% more democrats than republicans

The CNN poll was, however, a representative sample of likely voters, so it doesn't matter. To make the polling group equally Democratic and equally Republican is to skew the data. That's not how polling works because you need a random sample. In other words, the respondents were disproportionately Democratic-identifying because the country is disproportionately Democratic-identifying. This is a non-issue.

Edit: This issue you've brought up is the entire premise of the Unskewed Polls movement back in 2012 (in summary, Republicans didn't like that all the polling data showing Obama ahead included more Democrats than Republicans, so they tweaked the data to show what the polling would be if it were 50/50 Democrats and Republicans). It was hilarious and a demonstration of a fundamental misunderstanding of how polls work.

Edit x2: @Joe88, self-selection polls like the ones you listed are also pointless and are more of an indicator of the views of one's audience rather than the general public.

ov3rkill · Sep 27, 2016

Trump because of his wig, hot daughter and wife. haha. j/k
I'm not American. I guess it boils down to who's the lesser evil.

banjo2 · Sep 27, 2016

I'd vote for Evan McMullin, and it seems i'm all alone here. A little .2 percent. 1 vote.

[POLL] U.S. Presidential Election 2016

Whom will/would you vote for?

Hillary Clinton (Democratic Party)

Donald Trump (Republican Party)

Gary Johnson (Libertarian Party)

Jill Stein (Green Party)

Other

Darrell Castle (Constitution Party)

Evan McMullin (Independent)

Rocky De La Fuente (Reform Party)

Laurence Kotlikoff (Independent)

Tom Hoefling (America's Party)

Mike Maturen (American Solidarity Party)

Well-Known Member

The Temp's official fox whisperer

GBATemp's 3rd Favorite Transgirl

GBAtemp Supreme Overlord

The Temp's official fox whisperer

GBATemp's 3rd Favorite Transgirl

GBAtemp Supreme Overlord

GBATemp's 3rd Favorite Transgirl

Active Member

Well-Known Member

GBAtemp Supreme Overlord

[λ]

Well-Known Member

Dredgen

GBATemp's 3rd Favorite Transgirl

[λ]

GBATemp's 3rd Favorite Transgirl

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

gamer

Similar threads

Popular threads in this forum