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Reggie Fils-Aimé explains how Nintendo will not repeat Wii U mistakes for the NX

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In an exclusive interview with [a]listdaily yesterday, Reggie Fils-Aimé, the CEO of Nintendo of America, explained that Nintendo needs to improve their communication of "the positioning" of the NX during its launch, going on to say how they need to do a better job helping people understand the "uniqueness" of the system and what it means for "the game-playing experience".

Furthermore, Fils-Aimé goes on to say how the NX needs to have a "continuous beat" of games for the system, which would create the urge to motivate "more and more people to pick up the hardware."

"We always do our breakdown of what worked, what didn’t, and certainly we’ve done that with Wii U, and we continue to believe that the innovation of the second screen was a worthwhile concept...... when we launch the NX—we have to do a better job communicating the positioning for the product. We have to do a better job helping people to understand its uniqueness and what that means for the game playing experience." ~ Reggie Fils-Aimé


The NX is still yet to be unveiled by Nintendo, however it is said to be a home-console/portable with datachable controllers.

:arrow: Source (main interview with Reggie himself)
 
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TheDarkGreninja said:
Whats your definition of portable? Im not saying a console the size of a 3ds but slightly larger than a 3ds xl. Im pretty sure a console slightly larger than a 3ds xl can store a 4000/5000 mah battery
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My definition of "portable/handheld gaming system" is a console I can put in my pocket. Anything short of that is "mobile", fair enough, but rather cumbersome in terms of "portability". If I need a bag to make the system portable, it's not very portable.

Have you ever seen a 5000 mAh battery? The one in the Pixel C is about as big as the whole bloody tablet, see Step 13:

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Google+Pixel+C+Teardown/62277

...so think about half that size, meaning one out of the two Li-ion cells in the picture. Nah.

I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm saying that it's not feasible. You don't use a CPU that needs 10-15W to operate in a device that's supposed to fit in your pocket and preferably work for around 3 hours.
 
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Foxi4 said:
My definition of "portable/handheld gaming system" is a console I can put in my pocket. Anything short of that is "mobile", fair enough, but rather cumbersome in terms of "portability". If I need a bag to make the system portable, it's not very portable.

Have you ever seen a 5000 mAh battery? The one in the Pixel C is about as big as the whole bloody tablet, see Step 13:

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Google+Pixel+C+Teardown/62277

...so think about half that size, meaning one out of the two Li-ion cells in the picture. Nah.

I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm saying that it's not feasible. You don't use a CPU that needs 10-15W to operate in a device that's supposed to fit in your pocket and preferably work for around 3 hours.
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I'm pretty sure 5000 mah batteries can be smaller than that.
 
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TheDarkGreninja said:
I'm pretty sure 5000 mah batteries can be smaller than that.
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You seem to be sure of many things, but you're not showing any. You could make it "smaller" length-wise and width-wise if it was thicker, sure, but the volume would be ultimately the same. There's a reason why there are no X1 phones and why it was only used in a home console, a TV and a tablet.

15W maximum TDP is not something to shoot for when you're making a device that, by design, is supposed to run at full blast at all times. The Pixel C reaches average battery life times because it's idling half the time - a console isn't. Gaming pushes the hardware to the limit at all times, browsing the web or looking at pictures does not.
 
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... What?

The Saturn was expected to release in the holiday season that year. That E3 was meant to just announce it. SoJ then had the dumb idea to release it at the same day it was announced. So third parties that were working on games for it were pissed off because they weren't ready. Retailers that weren't in on it were pissed off to the point they refused to carry anything for it. What you mean is that they pushed it forward. Pushing it back implies releasing it later.
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Yeah, I used the wrong word. But yeah, in pushing it forward they basically screwed themselves. Hopefully Nintendo won't do the same kind of thing in their promotion of the product.
 
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There was the Microsoft Kin Phone... Less than two months on sale at Verizon, downgraded to feature phone in less than a year, and totally dead in 18 months.
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I just looked it up, and the KIN One looks like a fucked up BlackBerry phone when it has the keyboard out.
 
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Crystal the Glaceon said:
Remember when they said they won't make the same mistake with the Wii U as they did the Wii and would focus on
"hardcore" gamers and 3rd party support?
Yeah, that was cute.
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Well before EA blackballed them, they were trying to do that. Of course not all the blame lies with EA (Nintendo's shit advertising is a prime example), but they were planning a lot of hardcore games. They put all their chips on EA, and lost. EA even refused to release a nearly completed version of Crysis 3 on the Wii U. Can you say "vindictive"?

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I hope it's called the NX after all this time...
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My money is on the "Wii U They"
 
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I hope the nx is better than the wii u sure the wii u had good games I would buy it but i didnt like the controler (the gamepad)at all I hope the nx is much better than the wii u in every way since Reggie said it would I hope it will
 
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Chris313 said:
I hope the nx is better than the wii u sure the wii u had good games I would buy it but i didnt like the controler (the gamepad)at all I hope the nx is much better than the wii u in every way since Reggie said it would I hope it will
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Foxi4 said:
You seem to be sure of many things, but you're not showing any. You could make it "smaller" length-wise and width-wise if it was thicker, sure, but the volume would be ultimately the same. There's a reason why there are no X1 phones and why it was only used in a home console, a TV and a tablet.

15W maximum TDP is not something to shoot for when you're making a device that, by design, is supposed to run at full blast at all times. The Pixel C reaches average battery life times because it's idling half the time - a console isn't. Gaming pushes the hardware to the limit at all times, browsing the web or looking at pictures does not.
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Thats the thing though, the portable wont be aiming for HD but half that (540p) and around 30-60fps. So no it wont be going at max unless docked.
 
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TheDarkGreninja said:
Thats the thing though, the portable wont be aiming for HD but half that (540p) and around 30-60fps. So no it wont be going at max unless docked.
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It's possible, but not really feasible if they want to compete with the PS4/Xbox One in specs. It's just an opinion of mine, but a switch to x86 would really help and with today's tech in mind, it's entirely doable. Just the sheer amount of legacy apps and all the infrastructure available on PC would open its doors to Nintendo. Take in mind that both consoles of their competition are using x86 processors this generation - conforming to their standard would cut down on optimisation times significantly, even if the system was weaker in portable mode. AMD's also working on an x86 and ARM hybrid which would be perfect here, and they've previously stated that they're working on a custom APU "for a gaming console". The NX, if it will truly be a hybrid, introduces a brand-new and exciting form factor for a console, one that I personally had on my mind for a while now, so I hope they squeeze out all the power they possibly can from both docked and undocked modes. To be fair, I'm biased when it comes to x86, it's my preferred platform, and I can absolutely see your point when it comes to ARM, but at the end of the day it's the GPU that matters most in gaming and here we agree - Nvidia would be a great choice as their mobile GPU's are top of the line. Either way, I'll be happy as long as it's not another PPC 7xx that's outdated by a decade at this point.
 
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It's possible, but not really feasible if they want to compete with the PS4/Xbox One in specs. It's just an opinion of mine, but a switch to x86 would really help and with today's tech in mind, it's entirely doable. Just the sheer amount of legacy apps and all the infrastructure available on PC would open its doors to Nintendo. Take in mind that both consoles of their competition are using x86 processors this generation - conforming to their standard would cut down on optimisation times significantly, even if the system was weaker in portable mode. AMD's also working on an x86 and ARM hybrid which would be perfect here, and they've previously stated that they're working on a custom APU "for a gaming console". The NX, if it will truly be a hybrid, introduces a brand-new and exciting form factor for a console, one that I personally had on my mind for a while now, so I hope they squeeze out all the power they possibly can from both docked and undocked modes. To be fair, I'm biased when it comes to x86, it's my preferred platform, and I can absolutely see your point when it comes to ARM, but at the end of the day it's the GPU that matters most in gaming and here we agree - Nvidia would be a great choice as their mobile GPU's are top of the line. Either way, I'll be happy as long as it's not another PPC 7xx that's outdated by a decade at this point.
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I absolutely agree. I was thinking that they'd also introduce a home console down the line for additional power (working like an egpu.) IMO that makes most sense to me.

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by making a handheld with detachable controllers? they didn't listen to fuck all.
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The detachable controllers make it more portable.
 
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I have a good feeling about the NX besides being a totally pessimistic person(too apparent, really). I think it will do much better than the Wii U, but it would never reach Wii numbers. I can't explain that optimistic feeling, to be honest. However, I am still worried that it will be way too underpowered knowing post-gamecube era Nintendo too well. Something must be done about that.
 
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Elysium420 said:
I have a good feeling about the NX besides being a totally pessimistic person(too apparent, really). I think it will do much better than the Wii U, but it would never reach Wii numbers. I can't explain that optimistic feeling, to be honest. However, I am still worried that it will be way too underpowered knowing post-gamecube era Nintendo too well. Something must be done about that.
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IDK the concept makes power a lot less of an issue.
 

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