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Hardware Baseless Nintendo NX speculation thread
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Tegra x2 has only 256 pascal cores but is perfectly capable of 4k like x1. Have extra security chip aginst hijacking so going to be another while for hacks. Like gtx 1080 to gtx 980, which is less than twice in clock and slower in ipc.
K12 is also cancelled by amd, at least on the server end. On the bright side amd might be making their own core m.
K12 is also cancelled by amd, at least on the server end. On the bright side amd might be making their own core m.
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What if the Nx is really a expansion pak like for the N64,
It would explain why Nintendo said that they would still manufacture the 3DS, and WIIU.
It would explain why Nintendo said that they would still manufacture the 3DS, and WIIU.
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Don't have to destroy my theory. but what if its like one of those things you have to send in your 3ds/wiiu, and then they replace things in the system.
While wii u read disc and only have usb 2.0, while 3ds cartridges do not have that kind of function. Sorry to break it to you but it is not remotely possible.
Trust me, I wish it was like that before.
Plus expansion packs killed Sega. Nobody will be making that mistake again.
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Pure speculation by SuperMetalDave64 about an NX handheld
The 3DS used a DMP GPU, even after rumors circulated that it would use a Tegra 2 chip. Now that rumors are circulating that the NX would use a Tegra X1/X2 chip, it was revealed some weeks ago that the folks behind the 3DS chip have unveiled latest chip, capable of 1.2 TFlops (probably FP16 like how the rest report mobile capabilities as opposed to FP32), and supports the latest engines like UE4 and Vulkan. Could this be coincidence? Could time be repeating itself?
Additional (personal) thoughts:
Being a new chip by DMP, if (and I do mean a big if) Nintendo were to use that, that could possibly help towards backwards compatibility with 3DS games without having to throw in additional hardware just for the sake of BC, like what the 3DS did for DS playback (and by association, GBA). In fact, from my understanding in 3DS mode, official developers don't have access to anything DS-related. Not the ARM9 or even the 2D engines. So, no need to throw in extra fluff.
The 3DS used a DMP GPU, even after rumors circulated that it would use a Tegra 2 chip. Now that rumors are circulating that the NX would use a Tegra X1/X2 chip, it was revealed some weeks ago that the folks behind the 3DS chip have unveiled latest chip, capable of 1.2 TFlops (probably FP16 like how the rest report mobile capabilities as opposed to FP32), and supports the latest engines like UE4 and Vulkan. Could this be coincidence? Could time be repeating itself?
Additional (personal) thoughts:
Being a new chip by DMP, if (and I do mean a big if) Nintendo were to use that, that could possibly help towards backwards compatibility with 3DS games without having to throw in additional hardware just for the sake of BC, like what the 3DS did for DS playback (and by association, GBA). In fact, from my understanding in 3DS mode, official developers don't have access to anything DS-related. Not the ARM9 or even the 2D engines. So, no need to throw in extra fluff.
It makes sense to me. The Wii U is the evolution of the Wii which itself is the evolution of the Gamecube, and the Wii and Wii U are fully backwards compatible with their predecessors. I suspect the NX console will be an evolution of the Wii U, and it stands to reason the NX handheld would be the evolution of the 3DS. But only if the handheld is a dual-screen again. I don't know if Nintendo is committed to dual screens.
I think it is really more of which country to choose, and Nintendo is still japan based. Anything that support vulkan is enough to force through 3ds. If DMP does not have this kind of tech it would be suicidal for backward compatibility. And current gen doesn't offer much for BC.
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Another thing:
a) PPC is dead for years, power9 is no where near completion, and power8 is designed to be expansive.
b) PSV did not falls short for at least one year against smart phones in terms of spec. 3ds was behind at launch and having problem with titles at this point. You really need something at least close to smart phones. And m3400 will not be available for mass production until next year, which simply shipping the nx will take one or two months, and production and assembly will be another problem, so mass production would likely start around the announcement. Japan also lacks nanotech factories which TCMC is the closest place to do that, and Samsung is in the states. M3300 should be close.
But first tegra x2 is barely better than x1 or m3400, and not gaming-oriented. And not going to be cheap too, though of course NVidia want a slice of pie (and if there is a mod).
a) PPC is dead for years, power9 is no where near completion, and power8 is designed to be expansive.
b) PSV did not falls short for at least one year against smart phones in terms of spec. 3ds was behind at launch and having problem with titles at this point. You really need something at least close to smart phones. And m3400 will not be available for mass production until next year, which simply shipping the nx will take one or two months, and production and assembly will be another problem, so mass production would likely start around the announcement. Japan also lacks nanotech factories which TCMC is the closest place to do that, and Samsung is in the states. M3300 should be close.
But first tegra x2 is barely better than x1 or m3400, and not gaming-oriented. And not going to be cheap too, though of course NVidia want a slice of pie (and if there is a mod).
http://letsplayvideogames.com/2016/...rs-support-motion-control-and-force-feedback/
Don't know if this is accurate but it seems the motion feedback is more on the detachable controller (like that gamepad with dual wiimote prototype) than being a separate one (for vr?), and probably does not look like nunchuk. Well vr is still a gimmick.
Don't know if this is accurate but it seems the motion feedback is more on the detachable controller (like that gamepad with dual wiimote prototype) than being a separate one (for vr?), and probably does not look like nunchuk. Well vr is still a gimmick.
I was thinking to myself today, and I think I know what the NX will be
If you remember the "weird shape" touchscreen concept that was brought up in this thread earlier in the year, I'm guessing that was just a general proof of concept. However, I still believe it will be used in the final product.
The NX will be a traditional rectangular shape. However, the screen will take up the entire front face. It will most likely be 16:10 or 16:11 to accommodate for the four modular control notches cut out of the four corners. It is here that the free-form touchscreen will come in; the screen will continue around the controls and show HUD information pertinent to each control in every corner. This is where my theory ends if the console is purely portable.
However, my speculation continues if the console can be docked for extra power; if this is the case, the device will have either a micro USB port or a proprietary port on the bottom, and will slide into the dock much like you slide a power drill battery into a charger. From here, a faceplate can be added to the top over the screen if you do not merely wish to charge it; this will convert the four input modules into four controller ports and shut off the portable screen for maximized efficiency. In this mode, you have a decently powerful home console with a very small footprint
If you remember the "weird shape" touchscreen concept that was brought up in this thread earlier in the year, I'm guessing that was just a general proof of concept. However, I still believe it will be used in the final product.
The NX will be a traditional rectangular shape. However, the screen will take up the entire front face. It will most likely be 16:10 or 16:11 to accommodate for the four modular control notches cut out of the four corners. It is here that the free-form touchscreen will come in; the screen will continue around the controls and show HUD information pertinent to each control in every corner. This is where my theory ends if the console is purely portable.
However, my speculation continues if the console can be docked for extra power; if this is the case, the device will have either a micro USB port or a proprietary port on the bottom, and will slide into the dock much like you slide a power drill battery into a charger. From here, a faceplate can be added to the top over the screen if you do not merely wish to charge it; this will convert the four input modules into four controller ports and shut off the portable screen for maximized efficiency. In this mode, you have a decently powerful home console with a very small footprint
Connection like that requires beyond standard micro sub controller. Definitely doable but not cheap, and the graphic too, though high sells will accommodate. Controller part sound very exciting though width-changing screen is not impossible either. Nintendo has lots of different and contradictory patents. Despite everything, ps4 and xbox one need psn+/ xbox live gold to survive, or at least in the beginning.
With m3400 Nintendo will have to give up soc design which is not optimal for mobile. Even PSV used soc.
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Why does it have to give up soc design? They didn't with the 3DS, and the SoC in that includes DMP's Pica200 for its GPU (1st-gen vs the M3400, which is 3rd-gen).
Sorry, remembered seeing a separate gpu chip for 3ds when checking for teardown (or maybe I looked at ds), but seems my memories are wrong. Spec wise this should be on par with tegra x2 since pascal really only get 1.2 times with the same number of shaders compared to Maxwell, which means m3400 should be able to push a 720p to insane level though teraflop is a very odd thing.
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