Homebrew Can't decide between Arm9loaderhax and Menuhax!?!

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It's sorta like this.
Menuhax is like an old junker car, and a9lh is like a sports car. Everyone can agree that the sports car is better, but the junker car is functional, if not always reliable.
(Stolen analogy alert)
Or like Internet Explorer versus Chrome. Some people like slow things that don't work most of the time.

And how that IE's only use is to get to Chrome, as you usually use Menuhax to get to a9lh.
Technically, Nintendo could do something in regards to a9lh, that could lock out those who don't have a nand backup, from their homebrew, without bricking the system. All they would have to do, is embed a plaintext firm update into system menu, along with a custom arm9loaderhax.bin file.

If system menu detects arm9loaderhax.bin or arm9loaderhax_si.bin, it could hash check it, to determine the state of it. if it sees that it is not the hash of the one embedded in system menu, it could then overwrite it, and also write its copy of FIRM.bin to the SD then force a reboot.

Once rebooted, that overwritten arm9loaderhax.bin will then encrypt FIRM.bin with the system specific FIRM0/FIRM1 keys, and overwrite FIRM0/FIRM1, then reboot.

That updated FIRM, could just have ALL of the secret sector keys hard-coded within it, since said secret sector is compromised anyways, and not use secret sector anymore, and thus, this FIRM even if written onto FIRM0/FIRM1 of a new 3DS, could be made to NOT brick even the a9lh hacked systems. Likewise, if someone was to perform said update within gateway, if nintendo was to do this, then they would just lose A9LH.

Therefore, it definitely is suggested to NOT update your system, even with A9LH present, till a few hard-modded users confirm the update is safe.
>giving Nintendo ideas

Either way though, not all a9lh users use this filename, and it isn't exactly legal to overwrite this file anyway.
What if you had a project that was coincidentally named arm9loadethax.bin on your SD and you weren't a hacker?

It's also invading personal files.

And since a NAND backup will always work, the point is moot for Nintendo. All it does is make users pay for a hardmod at worst.
 
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Technically, Nintendo could do something in regards to a9lh, that could lock out those who don't have a nand backup, from their homebrew, without bricking the system. All they would have to do, is embed a plaintext firm update into system menu, along with a custom arm9loaderhax.bin file.

If system menu detects arm9loaderhax.bin or arm9loaderhax_si.bin, it could hash check it, to determine the state of it. if it sees that it is not the hash of the one embedded in system menu, it could then overwrite it, and also write its copy of FIRM.bin to the SD then force a reboot.

Once rebooted, that overwritten arm9loaderhax.bin will then encrypt FIRM.bin with the system specific FIRM0/FIRM1 keys, and overwrite FIRM0/FIRM1, then reboot.

That updated FIRM, could just have ALL of the secret sector keys hard-coded within it, since said secret sector is compromised anyways, and not use secret sector anymore, and thus, this FIRM even if written onto FIRM0/FIRM1 of a new 3DS, could be made to NOT brick even the a9lh hacked systems. Likewise, if someone was to perform said update within gateway, if nintendo was to do this, then they would just lose A9LH.

Therefore, it definitely is suggested to NOT update your system, even with A9LH present, till a few hard-modded users confirm the update is safe.
Even if they did this, we could install Nver and Cver and the Friends list CIAs and pretend nothing ever happened
 
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Its a days worth of work vs about 30min worth of work(in my experience at least).
Other than a faster and more reliable boot, theres hardly a difference with A9LH and standard CFW+Emunand.
 

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Please do not state that as fact. It is possible to stop as devs have pointed out before, its difficult to take down but not impossible.
Once installed the hack is impervious..... They may make an update that doesn't play nice with the hack but it can always be patched as needed.
 

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I was sceptical of A9LH at first but I decided to give up three hours of my time. It was worth it afterwards.

I'm glad I don't have to deal with boot errors (brown screen on MenuHax and HBL). boot times pretty fast. You also get to recover from a brick which is nifty (Hourglass9)

(You may have known these. Just reminding ^ ^)
 

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Well, if you are really on the fence, you're going to have to install an emunand first either way, so you could always try that out with menuhax for a bit and if you decide, "hey, this sucks" you can always go the extra mile and finish up the steps to install A9LH.
 

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Fixing the known-plaintext exploit, meaning we can't write native_firm even with a hardmod.

However even if they do that it won't fix the ability to do an otp-less a9lh via hardmod though apparently it takes forever, days in some cases since it needs to be brute forced.
 

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gba vc double installing was the dealbreaker for me. i hated doing that...i like just booting up and playing any game i want without it looking like i hacked it.
 

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IMO, if you can read through and at least at a high level understand what's going on with a9lh, go that route. If not, then stick with menuhax. Best not to make the leap if you don't have at least a reasonable understanding of what exactly you're actually doing to your system.
 

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