Nintendo NX is a portable console with detachable controllers (Eurogamer)

DiscostewSM · Jul 28, 2016

How often does Nvidia do semi-custom designs? When was the last time Nintendo didn't use a semi-custom design in their platforms? Are we to say that a Tegra X1 chip will simply be plopped into the NX as-is?

Deleted User · Jul 28, 2016

To sum this WHOLE thread up in 3 words : Nintendo Fucked Up

FrozenDragon150 · Jul 28, 2016

HamodeBu50 said:
To sum this WHOLE thread up in 3 words : Nintendo Fucked Up

Fucked up how? By not wanting to fall in the same stagnant pit of hell PC, Sony and Microsuck have fallen?

kabloomz · Jul 28, 2016

Subtle Demise said:
The $1k price point is for Nintendo's profit. Let's say such a device was actually in the works and it cost them like $450 to build, they would definitely sell it for at least 800-1000. This is all hypothetical, I don't see Nintendo trying to gain any share in the smartphone market. Microsoft couldn't even do it.

Consoles are lost leaders in terms of profit margins (even more so during launch and the first few years)... money is in licensing, games, digital goods/marketplace, accessories. Wii U for example was estimated to cost Nin $230 and they sold at $299. Keep in mind they have to pay for advertising and distributor profits. They just want to get the systems out and make money on the everything else mentioned above because cost is next to nothing.

Roxe__ said:
I cannot tell if you're just repeating what i'm saying or what anymore. The first thing you said was:

to which i replied:

Then I stated that my comment was a theory speculation, to which later you said this is hypothetical...
ANYWAYS something that Nintendo would have that Microsoft doesn't have is their name behind original game titles like pokemon/mario/xenoblade. Look at Pokemon Go and how much it has blown up, and now T-mobile is trying to use Pokemon Go to get customers. One good question is; would you rather buy your kid a cellphone and a 3DS or would you buy a Nintendo phone that does it all? Most people would pick the latter one.

I definitely agree with you... I'm having trouble having to compromise a console, then add a workhorse of a laptop, a phone, Fiio + large headset, a tablet, and a phone whenever I am traveling. <---- Everything but the console goes on the carry-on... and in some countries even the console goes on the carry-on lol... Now imagined that all of THAT is after I had decided I will never consider an e-reader or bringing the 3DS. (At one point I even thought just bring the laptop for work and just a music player... leave the rest behind).

This in mind, I just think they should stay their path and do console separate / portable separate. The portable should be able to fill the need for a DS device, separate tablet, music player, and maybe even a phone. With mini HDMI tv out and bluetooth (for controllers, headsets, etc)... this would make a badass portable gaming. The standalone console should focus on home entertainment and drive resource heavy gaming.

BurningDesire · Jul 28, 2016

Roxe__ said:
$1K for a device with the specs i mentioned is definitely not a loss, keep in mind my initial comment about a device with such specs was theory, you know those WHAT IF's. So it's very clear that they're not known for the best specs of their consoles, my statement was that many people like myself and @BurningDesire would be willing to pay for such a product!

Totally! If that's what it cost to get into a next ecosystem I'm in.

Procyon · Jul 28, 2016

BurningDesire said:
Totally! If that's what it cost to get into a next ecosystem I'm in.

I'll be out then.

Phantom64 · Jul 28, 2016

This is just a RUMOR or an official thing?

Bladexdsl · Jul 28, 2016

according to eurogamer it's official

mightymuffy · Jul 28, 2016

gnmmarechal said:
The bloated mess that is the Android OS? Stock Android is anything but bloated. A shame most companies bloat their devices so much (looking at u Samsung). Samsung devices running the TouchWiz ROM are unbearably bloated and slow. Custom ROMs ftw for Samsungs.

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Compared to what could be achieved by a Nintendo developed, 'only for the games' OS (they're using cartridges for God sake, there's no need to give us a Metro interface for downloading any NX digital games...), even stock Android could still be a bloated mess comparatively speaking, and besides, I was talking about the x1 chipset inside the Shield TV as comparison anyway, and the Android that comes in that is a bloated mess

(though I've only dicked around with it for a few minutes - my friend has one and says as much - I just have the Handheld)

Futurdreamz · Jul 29, 2016

Whelp, here we go.

Android is an OS that is outside of Nintendo's control. If Google decides to make any major changes Nintendo would be forced to adopt them or stick with an older version.

Android is designed to be easily modified. Consequently, any user can hack their console and add software or modifications that Nintendo cannot condone, such as cheats for online games.

Android has security vulnerabilities up the wazoo and has to be updated monthly. Not even Android manufacturers can keep up (Except Blackberry's Priv; and Moto bowed out of timely updates). Do you really want to be installing security updates every month?

Android cannot be locked down. Any paid app on Google Play can and has been hacked so you can play it for free, even on devices the app was not designed for. Hell, I have the Blackberry Priv's app suite on my Moto X Play despite them supposedly locked to the Priv. Any game Nintendo offers for the console, even if they use their own app store, can be hacked and played for free - and even played on non-Nintendo handhelds (hardware permitting).

Android does not have efficient resource optimization. An errant app can slow down the system and kill the battery, and most users can't do anything about that.

To make a consideration worthwhile, Nintendo would need the Google Play Store and therefore comply with all OHA regulations (severly limiting how much they can lock down and secure the OS). If they do not have access to the Play Store, then it is completely pointless to be running Android in the first place because Developers will have to manually bring their apps to the eShop, so might as well add the step of converting to the OS that the console uses.

I'm aware that people have a vague desire for wanting android on their console, but Android and Nintendo are inherently incompatible. Any such discussion is purely nonsensical, with as much merit as wanting a fish as a Ferrari. To even talk about it is an insult to Nintendo's integrity and shows vast ignorance about how the company actually runs.

Bladexdsl · Jul 29, 2016

Futurdreamz said:
Android cannot be locked down. Any paid app on Google Play can and has been hacked so you can play it for free, even on devices the app was not designed for. Hell, I have the Blackberry Priv's app suite on my Moto X Play despite them supposedly locked to the Priv. Any game Nintendo offers for the console, even if they use their own app store, can be hacked and played for free - and even played on non-Nintendo handhelds (hardware permitting).

maybe i'll get the NX after all hehehehehe

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codezer0 · Jul 29, 2016

FrozenDragon150 said:
Fucked up how? By not wanting to fall in the same stagnant pit of hell PC, Sony and Microsuck have fallen?

>Implying PC isn't capable of quality gaming

*Breathes in deeply*

"Boi..."

FrozenDragon150 · Jul 29, 2016

codezer0 said:
>Implying PC isn't capable of quality gaming

*Breathes in deeply*

"Boi..."

Not implying, I'm flat-out stating it's not innovative and it's getting stagnant. It hurts the very gaming industry.

Meteor7 · Jul 29, 2016

FrozenDragon150 said:
Not implying, I'm flat-out stating it's not innovative and it's getting stagnant. It hurts the very gaming industry.

Well, I don't think its presence as a platform alone can hurt the gaming industry. If anything, it would be an overindulgence of it by game devs and consumers that could bottleneck the development of gaming as a whole.

Futurdreamz · Jul 29, 2016

FrozenDragon150 said:
Not implying, I'm flat-out stating it's not innovative and it's getting stagnant. It hurts the very gaming industry.

...how? It's the developers which are the problem, not the platform. Microsoft is not forcing anybody to make annual releases of their franchises.

FrozenDragon150 · Jul 29, 2016

Futurdreamz said:
...how? It's the developers which are the problem, not the platform. Microsoft is not forcing anybody to make annual releases of their franchises.

Because, ultimately, PC gaming is limited to standard gaming schemes. The stuff that advances and innovates the industry are simply not feasible there. Things like motion controls wouldn't have gotten anybody's attention on the PC plataform (no, they wouldn't sell Wii Sports if it required the person to buy a Wiimote, for example)

Consoles are tailor-made for gaming, they SHOULD be tailor-made for gaming, with new, innovative concepts

codezer0 · Jul 29, 2016

The HTC vive would like to have a word with you. Virtual reality was done on PC way before it was even a twinkle in a console's eyes.

Bladexdsl · Jul 29, 2016

FrozenDragon150 said:
Not implying, I'm flat-out stating it's not innovative and it's getting stagnant. It hurts the very gaming industry.

stagnant? everyone wants to put their games on the PC it gets new games daily on steam i have at least 50 games on my wish list. hell even m$ are going MULTIPLAT no more xbone exclusives for you!

Meteor7 · Jul 29, 2016

Bladexdsl said:
stagnant? everyone wants to put their games on the PC hell even m$ are going MULTIPLAT no more xbone exclusives for you!

I think his complaint is less about the number of games going to PC rather than the types and quality of games on PC and PC-like consoles. Even if I misunderstood him, I think there's a point in that idea anyways. I feel like the PC hardware doesn't lend itself easily to innovation and experimentation in a hardware sense the way Nintendo consoles do (DS line and Wii/U). I feel like it's those kinds of shifts in the way users fundamentally interact with games software that's the only direction left to advance gaming as a whole. I feel like we've hit the ceiling as far as what more graphics and processing power can add to a gaming experience, and those are about the only directions in which PC and current gen consoles are moving. Frankly, I feel like we hit that ceiling a few years ago. As a matter of illustrating my perspective in a very subjective, opinion based way, I feel like if the PS4 and Xbone dropped out of existance right now, I would barely feel anything at all, but if the WiiU and the prospective of future Nintendo home consoles disappeared, I would feel like gaming as a whole would have lost a huge chunk of itself. This is coming from someone who doesn't own any current gen consoles, by the by.

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