Hardware AMD RX 480. What are your thoughts?

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To continue with this discussion, let's say I will get one no matter what. Now, there's the reference model by AMD themselves that would come in 4GB and 8GB flavors at $199 and $229 respectfully. These are coming out first, with custom ones by partners later on that do their own things, like a backplate heatsink, variation in cooling, etc for a premium price (however extra that would be). AMD says that they've got the cooling down compared to previous attempts with their reference cards, but I dunno. We'll have to wait and see.

Going by partners, I keep reading that for AMD's GPUs, the two that seem to be preferred are either XFX or Sapphire. The former used to do a lifetime warranty (which now is only through Best Buy if I'm not mistaken), while Sapphire has better cooling and possibly increased/stable clockspeeds. What choice in graphics AiB (add-in-board) partners do you all prefer if not the default reference model?
I'd probably be going with Sapphire if I were to ever get an AMD card. They look better (read: not like a transformer) and supposedly do a better job at cooling, like you said.
 

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Ya I would go with sapphire since amds biggest "problem" is usually heat.....and drivers lol but apparently they've gotten a lot better at that one(I wouldn't know since I haven't used an amd card in a while)

I'm thinking of getting this card but I only see 2 problem. I see a lot of people talking about sli and saying its crap and a lot of games simply do not run well or do not benefit from sli. But will two of these cards in "crossfire" or whatever it's called work better than sli? Isn't it supposed to be a lot better or easier to programme for than sli? I just wanna know because of this card really is as powerful as a 980 then I'll get two in crossfire but I wanna make sure it doesn't suck.
 
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Ya I would go with sapphire since amds biggest "problem" is usually heat.....and drivers lol but apparently they've gotten a lot better at that one(I wouldn't know since I haven't used an amd card in a while)

I'm thinking of getting this card but I only see 2 problem. I see a lot of people talking about sli and saying its crap and a lot of games simply do not run well or do not benefit from sli. But will two of these cards in "crossfire" or whatever it's called work better than sli? Isn't it supposed to be a lot better or easier to programme for than sli? I just wanna know because of this card really is as powerful as a 980 then I'll get two in crossfire but I wanna make sure it doesn't suck.
To be honest.. While I'm an amd user... nVidias SLI is leaps better than AMDs crossfire.
 

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SLI being better than Xfire is not saying much. Mulit-gpu setups have always been a pain with both vendors. It's not even drivers a lot of the time, but just X game not playing nice with it. Quite a few games have popped up recently that just don't support SLI/Xfire (games fault, not drivers).

Always best to go with one powerful gpu if you can.
 
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So NDA is lifted and reviews are up.

Lots of reviews out there, generally positive.

Looking at the overall conclusions from a lot of sites it's

970/390 ish performance in dx11
dx12 is much better.
Reference cooler is shit (no surprise there).
4GB version has 8GB on board with 4GB locked off.
Price is what makes it attractive.

So nothing too surprising. 970/390 performance at a lower price point.

Nothing here for anyone with a 970/290/390, but that was to be expected.
 
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So NDA is lifted and reviews are up.

Lots of reviews out there, generally positive.

Looking at the overall conclusions from a lot of sites it's

970/390 ish performance in dx11
dx12 is much better.
Reference cooler is shit (no surprise there).
4GB version has 8GB on board with 4GB locked off.
Price is what makes it attractive.

So nothing too surprising. 970/390 performance at a lower price point.

Nothing here for anyone with a 970/290/390, but that was to be expected.
makes me wonder if it would be possible to unloch the other 4gb
 

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makes me wonder if it would be possible to unloch the other 4gb

I would assume it will be, eventually.

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/AMD-Radeon-RX-480-Review-Polaris-Promise

"Another oddity – and one that may make enthusiast a bit more cheery – is that AMD only built a single reference design card for this release to cover both the 4GB and 8GB varieties. That means that the cards that go on sale today listed at 4GB models will actually have 8GB of memory on them! With half of the DRAM partially disabled, it seems likely that someone soon will find a way to share a VBIOS to enable the additional VRAM. In fact, AMD provided me with a 4GB and an 8GB VBIOS for testing purpose. It’s a cost saving measure on AMD’s part – this way they only have to validate and build a single PCB."

The memory on the 4GB is slighly slower 7 Gbps isntead of 8 Gbps, so you'll end up with slightly less bandwidth (although, it shouldn't really impact the card much, you'll probably hit a bottleneck elsewhere first) & as far as anyone is aware, only the reference cards have a 4GB option, so you'll have to put up with the shitty blower cooler.

I'd rather just grab a non-ref board with a better cooler when available.
 
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That hope is gone now :(.

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterra...at_amd_the_time_has_come_to_ama_about/d4smvmo

"In the market you will see a version with 8GB of physical memory, and a version of 4GB of physical memory. We sent reviewers an 8GB model with a BIOS that allows them to flash between 4GB and 8GB available memory so they could perform testing on both hardware configurations."

Reviewers should make that clear now, so people don't rush for the 4GB hoping for the unlock.
 

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Looked at a few reviews, and while it's the kind of card I would want, I'd definitely would not want to pick up a ref card. It's not just heat/noise, but after reading about how these cards are drawing more power from the PCI-E over recommended specifications, it's not very encouraging.

Hopefully the non-ref cards can change this, like shifting the draw from the PCI-E slot to the pin connectors, either by swapping out the current 6-pin for an 8-pin, or adding another 6-pin, whichever is more feasible.
 

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Not bad for the price but seeing some dx12 games benchmark its close to a 980 ti. On dx11 its close to a 970 oc. Its better to wait for custom version with better fans to oc and new drivers. So i'd wait 1 month minimum, going to look at 1060 nvidia
 

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I watched a stream about the RX 480 Nitro by Sapphire with SapphireEd, and I think that's what I'll get when it releases. They'll supposed to talk about it more in July.


Note: Jokerslunt was having audio issues at the beginning of the stream.

The "cheese-grater" style (I don't mind) with 2 fans that you can replace yourself. The PCB is open on the top (and back?) so the air won't spread out after going through the heatsinks. Uses an 8-pin connector. 1 DVI + 2 HDMI + 2 DP instead of 1 HDMI + 3 DP. It was said that most RMAs involve failures of the fans, so they'll have an app for testing the fans to make sure they are in working order. If they aren't, then you can contact Sapphire, and instead of having to send in the card for repairs, they'll send you extra fans so you can replace them yourself.

SAPPHIRE-Radeon-RX-480-NITRO.jpg

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Hello poeple ! I have a little question !
I was waiting to make my own rig for quite some month. The RX480 was interesting me from the beginning, and I was waiting for it to release (my goal is to play game on Ultra/30~60FPS and in 1080p without VR, but I can make some sacrifice for some game), and the review was interesting (the game that I wanted to play and who consummed the most ressource was Witcher 3, who seem's to run between 50/55 fps in 1080 ultra without hairwork). So I ordered my new computer with this card (I didn't want to wait for custom card, especially if they will be more expensive. I was already at my utmost budget limit with this card). I should received it somewhere on Thuesday or Wednesday next week.
But latelly, I'm seeing that there seem's to be some problems with the 6pins connector (I'm not someone who know a lot of things about that, it's my first rig), and that it can in some case fry the motherboard.
The motherboard I bought with my rig are that one : http://www.gigabyte.fr/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5606#ov
Do you think that it should be ok despite the 6 pins problems ? Will there be any chance that AMD will be calling back their card to replace with another connector if many poeple have problems ? Or should I send back the card and ask a refund ?
Thanks in advance for the reply, I didn't saw there was this kind of problem ^^"
 
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Hello poeple ! I have a little question !
I was waiting to make my own rig for quite some month. The RX480 was interesting me from the beginning, and I was waiting for it to release (my goal is to play game on Ultra/30~60FPS and in 1080p without VR, but I can make some sacrifice for some game), and the review was interesting (the game that I wanted to play and who consummed the most ressource was Witcher 3, who seem's to run between 50/55 fps in 1080 ultra without hairwork). So I ordered my new computer with this card (I didn't want to wait for custom card, especially if they will be more expensive. I was already at my utmost budget limit with this card). I should received it somewhere on Thuesday or Wednesday next week.
But latelly, I'm seeing that there seem's to be some problems with the 6pins connector (I'm not someone who know a lot of things about that, it's my first rig), and that it can in some case fry the motherboard.
The motherboard I bought with my rig are that one : http://www.gigabyte.fr/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5606#ov
Do you think that it should be ok despite the 6 pins problems ? Will there be any chance that AMD will be calling back their card to replace with another connector if many poeple have problems ? Or should I send back the card and ask a refund ?
Thanks in advance for the reply, I didn't saw there was this kind of problem ^^"
From what I understand, the 6-pin can only supply about 75W, and the card is rated to consume about 150W or a bit more, meaning that any power it needs outside of the 6-pin comes from the PCI-E slot, which is also rated for 75W. It supposedly goes over (under stress?), setting it outside of specs, and people are concerned about how it will affect the motherboard. As to how to fix it, I'm not quite sure, but here's a video concerning the possibility of the card having a "power bottleneck"...



Now, custom partner cards, such as the Sapphire RX 480 Nitro, will come it an 8-pin instead of a 6-pin (granting an extra 75W through that connector), thus allowing the power to come from the connector more than the PCI-E slot (please correct me if I'm wrong on this).
 

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I'll have to think about this. I am hoping to build a system later on this year but I haven't decided if I'd prefer an RX 480 or a 1070, or even a 1060 or 1080 yet. It all depends on the reviews and what the pricing stabilizes to. I'm not really in a rush so I can take a wait-and-see approach.
 

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