ROM Hack [WIP] The Fourth Dimension: A Super Mario 3D land level editor

Dev5359 · Jun 26, 2016

Skelux said:
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I love your work with SM64! Can't wait to see what you do with SM3DL.

mustafag32g · Jun 26, 2016

Skelux said:
Very strange, I don't think there's anything unusual about the way I'm exporting it.
At any rate it's not a major issue, no reason I can't just place all the level models at 0,0,0.
I'll just hope this issue doesn't affect other objects like enemies.

Is there any way to make fragment lighting brighter? I've tried adding a fragment light in Creative Studio, but in-game it does not change anything.
I've noticed vertex lights don't work either, I'll probably end up having to manually vertex shade everything like I do with SM64DS.
I'll probably finish up my first SM3DL level after I finish the next update for the SM64 editor, some time this week.

Did you make the model yourself? Or did you port it.... I see you have shadows, vertex shading ?

Skelux · Jun 26, 2016

mustafag32g said:
Did you make the model yourself? Or did you port it.... I see you have shadows, vertex shading ?

Yes, I made it myself. It was an example of a model I manually vertex shaded using blender for a SM64DS hack I'm working on. I'll probably be using this same method for SM3DL, and will advise others to do the same. I'll include a section about this when I write up a guide.

mustafag32g · Jun 26, 2016

Exelix i can not seem to add an objectType in the edtior. There is no ok button? When i click CameraAreaInfo i can not accept it, there is no button why ?

exelix11 · Jun 26, 2016

Skelux said:
Very strange, I don't think there's anything unusual about the way I'm exporting it.
At any rate it's not a major issue, no reason I can't just place all the level models at 0,0,0.
I'll just hope this issue doesn't affect other objects like enemies.

Is there any way to make fragment lighting brighter? I've tried adding a fragment light in Creative Studio, but in-game it does not change anything.
I've noticed vertex lights don't work either, I'll probably end up having to manually vertex shade everything like I do with SM64DS.
I'll probably finish up my first SM3DL level after I finish the next update for the SM64 editor, some time this week.

I don't know how lighting works, but i noticed, if you open the Design file of a stage there are areas called LightArea, but, again i have no idea on how do they work

mustafag32g said:
Exelix i can not seem to add an objectType in the edtior. There is no ok button? When i click CameraAreaInfo i can not accept it, there is no button why ?

Edit: Probably you have changed dpi scaling in your pc to a value higher than 100%:

mustafag32g · Jun 26, 2016

Skelux said:
Yes, I made it myself. It was an example of a model I manually vertex shaded using blender for a SM64DS hack I'm working on. I'll probably be using this same method for SM3DL, and will advise others to do the same. I'll include a section about this when I write up a guide.

Can you tell me if the vertex shading shows ingame :-)?

mustafag32g · Jun 26, 2016

I made a part of my level....

here are some pics, it is not done, since i have to fix the camera a few places...

PF2M · Jun 26, 2016

This may sound stupid, but how do you move around in the editor? I can only figure out how to look around.

Edit: Never mind, figured it out.

iZackefx · Jun 27, 2016

What .DLL files are required to open the fourth dimension? It won't run..

exelix11 · Jun 27, 2016

iZackefx said:
What .DLL files are required to open the fourth dimension? It won't run..

you need: 3DS.dll, CommonCompressors.dll, CommonFiles.dll, FastColoredTextBox.dll, HelixToolkit.Wpf.dll, LibEveryFileExplorer.dll, ModelVIewer.dll and NDS.dll
But i think the problem is something with your pc, try installing the latest .net framework.
You aren't the only one with this problem i'm trying to find a solution, but i can't replicate the problem in a virtual machine, right now the only thing i found is that wpf apps won't start if the font cache is corrupted or a font in the fonts registry key contains an invalid path, try running any other wpf app to make sure you do not have this problem.

iZackefx · Jun 29, 2016

Hmm, in game, some sprites seem to disappear once Mario gets away from them a good ways a part. Could this be due to the camera?

exelix11 · Jun 29, 2016

iZackefx said:
Hmm, in game, some sprites seem to disappear once Mario gets away from them a good ways a part. Could this be due to the camera?

That's the clipping, the 3ds hardware sucks and it doesn't render objects too far, you can fix this with ctrlViewAreas, put an area, set it's first arg to a number, set an object's (or more objects) ViewId value to that number, every time the player is inside that area that object will be rendered, no matter the distance.
Again, since 3ds hardware it's pretty limited, don't abuse this and do it only for the objects that are visible in the camera from that zone.

exelix11 · Jun 29, 2016

A small mod i made:

iZackefx · Jun 29, 2016

Thanks. Also, is there a possible way to enable switches that'd spawn stuff if collected per se a star coin?

exelix11 · Jun 29, 2016

iZackefx said:
Thanks. Also, is there a possible way to enable switches that'd spawn stuff if collected per se a star coin?

Yes, some objects like switches can trigger other objects with their SwitchA value, if you put the same number to the SwitchApper of another object that will spawn only when the switch activates, but not every object can be used with the SwitchA property, for sure question blocks and switches can

ElyosOfTheAbyss · Jun 30, 2016

exelix11 said:
A small mod i made:

Time for citra to support SM3DL now so we can
>Set up VR support
>Set up kinect or something to make controlls
> Live inside SM3DL

mustafag32g · Jun 30, 2016

Dear exelix it would be wonderful if you could make exe of the new update. My visualstudio has no license no longer :/

Btw, it would be wonderful if you could implement dragging of children objects maybe :-)?

exelix11 · Jun 30, 2016

mustafag32g said:
Dear exelix it would be wonderful if you could make exe of the new update. My visualstudio has no license no longer :/

Btw, it would be wonderful if you could implement dragging of children objects maybe :-)?

Dragging for children objects would be pretty difficult since how is the editor structured, the copy and paste function is implemented as a workaround,you can easily place the object as a normal object, copy it inside the parent object, or you could place any object and copy it's position and paste it in the children object you want.

The latest commit has some issues with the object database, i still have some stuff to do, wait a few days and it'll be ready.
anyway visual studio 2015 community is free an works with every programming language, i'm using that.

ElyosOfTheAbyss said:
Time for citra to support SM3DL now so we can
>Set up VR support
>Set up kinect or something to make controlls
> Live inside SM3DL

Cemu is faster, waiting for first person mod for 3d world.
actually i might try doing that one

Skelux · Jul 4, 2016

I've noticed that on everything I import, the layers are drawn back-to-front. Any ideas how to fix this?

exelix11 · Jul 4, 2016

Skelux said:
I've noticed that on everything I import, the layers are drawn back-to-front. Any ideas how to fix this?

change the face orientation, if your'e using sketchup select everything and click invert faces

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