Hacking A9LH tends to become a religion in GBATemp

RustInPeace · May 31, 2016

I successfully converted someone to A9LH, and even though I stressed following Plailect's guide, he wanted me to help him step by step. So I did and today, spent about 7 hours helping him. While it was a major drain of my Memorial Day, I came out of it feeling good. I was able to throw in tips not mentioned in the guide, and explained concerns and little issues he had. It was so worth it. I'm willing to do it again.

Billy Acuña · May 31, 2016

Most of the people that don't want A9LH are with the very outdated mset[emoji14]

cvskid · May 31, 2016

Billy Acuña said:
Most of the people that don't want A9LH are with the very outdated mset[emoji14]

Even if people still wanted to use mset or whatever the case may be the end result is still the same for what most people would want, free games.

Billy Acuña · May 31, 2016

cvskid said:
Even if people still wanted to use mset or whatever the case may be the end result is still the same for what most people would want, free games.

I like free games too, but I also like to enter on my home menu directly and fast with sig patches, full kernel access on whatever firmware, don't care about sysnand and emunand disadvanges.
I simply love A9LH <3

stl25 · May 31, 2016

Does that mean OFW only users practice Atheism?

Zanoab · May 31, 2016

stl25 said:
Does that mean OFW only users practice Atheism?

And A9LH would be Agnostic since they have the freedom to choose whatever they want to use.

Supster131 · May 31, 2016

stl25 said:
Does that mean OFW only users practice Atheism?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I guess I should go back to using OFW.. oh wait

Halvorsen · May 31, 2016

The arm9loader is a sacred piece of security blessed by the Reggiegods and Iwatlords at Nintendo, a place in the fabled land of Japan where anime seems to originate. When it all began, there was nothing to be found of use in ver 1.0, but the law of evolution seems to have granted us the ability to exploit a perfect flaw found in this arm9loader, and only those that praise and commend this evolution by the almighty Reggiesaur will be sent to the land of fast boot speeds and unbrickable 3DSes. Only those who do not follow the path of the arm9loader will be damned with excruciatingly long boot times with high fail rate, in addition to uncovered protection to the blessed system NAND.
It is oft seen as a negative to convert a foolish menuhax being to our almighty saviour, however His work will have gone unfounded and we as his servants will have failed our duty.
Praise arm9loaderhax.

einhuman197 · May 31, 2016

I installed arm9loaderhax when nobody did it, with that flickering arm9.bin dumping thing (that one was funny

) and without otphelper. When people don't want to install arm9loaderhax, don't force them. You should say something like this:
"There's a hack that's called arm9loaderhax. It boots you directly into 3ds home with custom firmware, but it takes Long time until it's installed. Look at there for more informations *link*. "
Jeah but with those "install a9lh u need it m9!!!!!!!111" guys every noob thinks you need it and without it there's nothing.
I hope people will learn.

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Treeko · May 31, 2016

I am having a blast reading all these comments and having popcorn, come on people we need more useless stuff on gbatemp!!! Come on!!!

lonewolf08 · May 31, 2016

einhuman197 said:
I installed arm9loaderhax when nobody did it, with that flickering arm9.bin dumping thing (that one was funny ) and without otphelper. When people don't want to install arm9loaderhax, don't force them. You should say something like this:
"There's a hack that's called arm9loaderhax. It boots you directly into 3ds home with custom firmware, but it takes Long time until it's installed. Look at there for more informations *link*. "
Jeah but with those "install a9lh u need it m9!!!!!!!111" guys every noob thinks you need it and without it there's nothing.
I hope people will learn.

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Likewise we also need in that very reply that menuhax while being slightly faster to setup can fail a lot especially if you want to go from boot - emunand-homebrew or from boot-homebrew so that particular homebrew runs on sysnand. Everyone just says a9lh better hack or menuhax is faster to setup but not once has there been a detailed reply explaining pros and cons to each set up, although I believe if we broke it down like that to people they would ultimately choose a9lh anyways but that information is not given and then they can't choose for themselves and get pressured.

Hayleia · May 31, 2016

MelonGx said:
Thanks to Plailect's Guide, it helps people to upgrade, to setup CFW & A9LH, to help people answer noob easily.
But it also brings more and more bad manner A9LHists start to spread that guide on every request post, and force other GBATemp users to accept A9LH, and ostracize other opinions.

Although Plailect's Guide is an A9LH guide & omitted when you can stop if you don't want to go A9LH (actually if you end at the finish of Part 2 Downgrading, it's indeed a Menuhax guide), it doesn't force readers to follow.

Well, it kind of forces readers to follow. I mean, if you stop after part 3, you have a RedNAND and no CIA manager. If you do part 4, you dumped OTP so it would be stupid not to install a9lh. So there is no breakpoint where you have both a CFW on RedNAND and a CIA manager without a9lh. So yes, you could stop in the middle of it but you have to guess where. Because "Part 4, Section I, step 17" (RedNAND and CIA manager) looks as much like a breakpoint as "Part 4, Section III, Step 3" (in the middle of 2.1, without even an SD card in the console).

And then, you also have the fact that it gives steps to get to a certain place but not other places. For example, even for a9lh users, it tells them to remove RedNAND and do their life on SysNAND. Which is a choice the user could have made but no, here, there is no choice. And of course something who knows what's going on can say "oh ok, well no, I know Luma supports RedNAND, and even emuNAND, so for safety reasons and compatibility with my Gateway I'll keep an emuNAND" but a noob won't think. He'll just follow the guide. And get a SysNAND-only a9lh configuration when a RedNAND menuhax configuration may have been enough.

The "problem" is that this guide is the most up to date and the best written guide, so that's why it gets posted everywhere. But I agree it could use some formatting here and there, so that people can stop after menuhax or so that they can keep their RedNAND at the end. Otherwise, it'll get posted everywhere and indeed make the a9lh SysNAND-only configuration a religion.

PS: For the people who don't know me, I have a9lh on all my 3 systems so don't call me a menuhax peasant.
You can call me an emuNAND peasant though, but don't tell me I'm stupid for being "scared" of Nintendo because I'm not, I just want to be able to fiddle with my main NAND the way I want. I could even wipe it completely without rendering my system unusable since it's just my emuNAND.

lonewolf08 · May 31, 2016

Hayleia said:
Well, it kind of forces readers to follow. I mean, if you stop after part 3, you have a RedNAND and no CIA manager. If you do part 4, you dumped OTP so it would be stupid not to install a9lh. So there is no breakpoint where you have both a CFW on RedNAND and a CIA manager without a9lh. So yes, you could stop in the middle of it but you have to guess where. Because "Part 4, Section I, step 17" (RedNAND and CIA manager) looks as much like a breakpoint as "Part 4, Section III, Step 3" (in the middle of 2.1, without even an SD card in the console).

And then, you also have the fact that it gives steps to get to a certain place but not other places. For example, even for a9lh users, it tells them to remove RedNAND and do their life on SysNAND. Which is a choice the user could have made but no, here, there is no choice. And of course something who knows what's going on can say "oh ok, well no, I know Luma supports RedNAND, and even emuNAND, so for safety reasons and compatibility with my Gateway I'll keep an emuNAND" but a noob won't think. He'll just follow the guide. And get a SysNAND-only a9lh configuration when a RedNAND menuhax configuration may have been enough.

The "problem" is that this guide is the most up to date and the best written guide, so that's why it gets posted everywhere. But I agree it could use some formatting here and there, so that people can stop after menuhax or so that they can keep their RedNAND at the end. Otherwise, it'll get posted everywhere and indeed make the a9lh SysNAND-only configuration a religion.

PS: For the people who don't know me, I have a9lh on all my 3 systems so don't call me a menuhax peasant.
You can call me an emuNAND peasant though, but don't tell me I'm stupid for being "scared" of Nintendo because I'm not, I just want to be able to fiddle with my main NAND the way I want. I could even wipe it completely without rendering my system unusable since it's just my emuNAND.

I do agree the guide sort of forces you to continue I'm not sure if changing it will be much better since I believe if it were to be edited to be able to stop at certain points, it would have to explain why you can and why you should continue which would make the guide much longer and most people would just say fuck it all and give up on everything or go with a outdated guide and can lead to problems. Also from my understanding, you can delete your sysnand if you, by that I mean brick it and mess around with it, and still be protected since you can always restore from a backup. I bricked trying to change the color of sleep notification when turning off the device and easily flashed my backup with decrypt9, so I believe that reasoning is little weak but nothing wrong about since there is also the feeling of being secured over the just being secured if that makes sense.

ih8ih8sn0w · May 31, 2016

lonewolf08 said:
I do agree the guide sort of forces you to continue I'm not sure if changing it will be much better since I believe if it were to be edited to be able to stop at certain points, it would have to explain why you can and why you should continue which would make the guide much longer and most people would just say fuck it all and give up on everything or go with a outdated guide and can lead to problems. Also from my understanding, you can delete your sysnand if you, by that I mean brick it and mess around with it, and still be protected since you can always restore from a backup. I bricked trying to change the color of sleep notification when turning off the device and easily flashed my backup with decrypt9, so I believe that reasoning is little weak but nothing wrong about since there is also the feeling of being secured over the just being secured if that makes sense.

Adding a few lines saying that people who do not want a9lh can go here to setup a cia manager, and other necessities for living with emunand and menuhax. If you give up at that step, then its your fault that your emunand is essentially useless tbh
edit: also, keeping an emunand to fuck around with to a brickable state is perfectly valid, you can restore an emunand much faster than you can restore a sysnand (in theory, with emunandtool)

lonewolf08 · May 31, 2016

ih8ih8sn0w said:
Adding a few lines saying that people who do not want a9lh can go here to setup a cia manager, and other necessities for living with emunand and menuhax. If you give up at that step, then its your fault that your emunand is essentially useless tbh

Yes that's one way of doing it but that doesn't explain anything just if you want to stop here do this but it doesn't tell me why I want to stop here or continue otherwise most people would stop there no questions asked since it says you can stop here and people are not going to look up the pros and cons to stop or keep going so adding ALL the information would take up a lot space and makes the whole guide even more frightening to see, like when I did It i saw how many pages and thought Jesús I have to read all of this and I almost didn't want to go through with it but I did solely for the 100% boot rate but a lot of people are not going to know that.

Edit: it's actually the same speed if you a9lh installed to restore emunand or sysnand.

urherenow · May 31, 2016

ih8ih8sn0w said:
Adding a few lines saying that people who do not want a9lh can go here to setup a cia manager, and other necessities for living with emunand and menuhax. If you give up at that step, then its your fault that your emunand is essentially useless tbh
edit: also, keeping an emunand to fuck around with to a brickable state is perfectly valid, you can restore an emunand much faster than you can restore a sysnand (in theory, with emunandtool)

"much" faster? Only if you're too lazy to use 7 wires instead of just 4 on your hard mod. (but I'm that lazy

)

lonewolf08 · May 31, 2016

urherenow said:
"much" faster? Only if you're too lazy to use 7 wires instead of just 4 on your hard mod. (but I'm that lazy )

We talking about software lol but honestly there is not much difference from restoring sysnand or emunand.

ih8ih8sn0w · May 31, 2016

urherenow said:
"much" faster? Only if you're too lazy to use 7 wires instead of just 4 on your hard mod. (but I'm that lazy )

What does hardmod have to do with anything related to a9lh? I am comparing decrypt9 speeds (restoring a sysnand backup) to emunand tool speeds (restoring an emunand backup onto your sd card)

lonewolf08 · May 31, 2016

ih8ih8sn0w said:
What does hardmod have to do with anything related to a9lh? I am comparing decrypt9 speeds (restoring a sysnand backup) to emunand tool speeds (restoring an emunand backup onto your sd card)

From my experience they were about the same with a 64gb uhs 1 formatted in cluster 64. I sometimes ponder to use an emunand just for pokemon so I can get the jap events but that's about it.
Edit: also the emunand tool can restore sysnand too if I remember correctly haven't used it in awhile.

ih8ih8sn0w · May 31, 2016

lonewolf08 said:
Yes that's one way of doing it but that doesn't explain anything just if you want to stop here do this but it doesn't tell me why I want to stop here or continue otherwise most people would stop there no questions asked since it says you can stop here and people are not going to look up the pros and cons to stop or keep going so adding ALL the information would take up a lot space and makes the whole guide even more frightening to see, like when I did It i saw how many pages and thought Jesús I have to read all of this and I almost didn't want to go through with it but I did solely for the 100% boot rate but a lot of people are not going to know that.

Edit: it's actually the same speed if you a9lh installed to restore emunand or sysnand.

I get what you mean, but if the pros and cons were spread out there, and the person were legitimately concerned on if they should setup a9lh or not, they would take the time to read through them and decide on sticking with menuhax or going ahead and setting up a9lh. Most people who are reading the guide, either are skipping step 3, are reading to step 3 because its a new console and they haven't setup steps 1-3 in a long time, or are noobs (no offense, there are other groups i guess who are reading the guides, but whatever). If you are a noob reading the guide, chances are, you don't give a shit about a9lh, and you just want to pirate games, or set a9lh on the shelf for later. If you do care about a9lh, then you will move on. If you are on the fence about it, you will read the pros and cons to a9lh, and make your decision, or ask on here for clarification. Either way, you are setting up what you want to setup, and not wasting time doing something you do not understand.

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lonewolf08 said:
From my experience they were about the same with a 64gb uhs 1 formatted in cluster 64. I sometimes ponder to use an emunand just for pokemon so I can get the jap events but that's about it.
Edit: also the emunand tool can restore sysnand too if I remember correctly haven't used it in awhile.

The thing im talking about is emunand tool the program, it can probably restore sysnand through hardmod, which will most likely be faster than using decrypt9, but the point that i was making is that if you want to just brick emunands all day, you can do it a lot faster than bricking a non hardmodded a9lh 3ds.

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