Hacking Any disadvantages of A9LH+Sysnand only (no Emunand/Rednand)

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Thank you so far. :)

Is there a way to use the gateway card (i still have some .3ds files, sometimes it's more convinient) with a9lh+Sysnand on 11.0? I have followed Plailects guide to install a9lh and Luma.
 

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Thank you so far. :)

Is there a way to use the gateway card (i still have some .3ds files, sometimes it's more convinient) with a9lh+Sysnand on 11.0? I have followed Plailects guide to install a9lh and Luma.
No.

I'll keep my emunand, I need sysnand 9.2 sometimes. All those guys who don't have big sd cards._. . Buy a 64gb,then storage isn't a problem for you.

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Thank you so far. :)

Is there a way to use the gateway card (i still have some .3ds files, sometimes it's more convinient) with a9lh+Sysnand on 11.0? I have followed Plailects guide to install a9lh and Luma.
There are users currently working on that, but there have been some issues, especially with the o3ds. It seems as for now we can only get TOSHIBA NANDs working. Check out the thread with GW and A9LH. Or just wait till Gateway releases it, but that will be anytime SoonTM.
 

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surely this question has been asked before, but it's possible to launch HomebrewLauncher cia from an updated SysNAND? What are the difference from a updated HL vs a 9.2 HL?

Use the homebrew launcher cia and the HBL boot.3dsx. I don't know what you mean with HL?
 
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Even in this case you are not totaly screwed with a9lh. You should be able to rebuild the NAND with XORPADS and much help, and if you have a 9.2 Emunand you can simply copy it to sysnand.

emuNAND is not safer than updated sysNAND. Switching from updated sysNAND to emuNAND is 100% waste of space and time.
If you dont believe me ask a dev.

i begin to feel that there is little practical difference between emunand and a9lh installed sysnand, as on an a9 machine they can equally be booted up and their nand backups that can pass verification by decrypt9 can be swapped and restored and run successfully.
 

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ON 9.2, you're entering HBL on SysNand. On EmuNand, you're accessing it via EmuNand, so there's some access difference.

If I understand it correctly, on a9, you're actually in a patched, protected version of SysNand, so it would be the same access as you had when on 9.2
 

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Thank you so far. :)

Is there a way to use the gateway card (i still have some .3ds files, sometimes it's more convinient) with a9lh+Sysnand on 11.0? I have followed Plailects guide to install a9lh and Luma.
You'll need to set up a 9.2 EmuNAND until either GW's release comes with a A9LH.bin compatible with public A9LH implementations or the community-modified GWA9LH implementation reaches a stable state for all 3DSes.

Here's a guide I wrote about using GW+Luma under current A9LH: http://gbatemp.net/threads/guide-how-to-use-gw-luma3ds-a9lh.424117/
 

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Thank you so far. :)

Is there a way to use the gateway card (i still have some .3ds files, sometimes it's more convinient) with a9lh+Sysnand on 11.0? I have followed Plailects guide to install a9lh and Luma.
You'll need to set up a 9.2 EmuNAND until either GW's release comes with a A9LH.bin compatible with public A9LH implementations or the community-modified GWA9LH implementation reaches a stable state for all 3DSes.

Here's a guide I wrote about using GW+Luma under current A9LH: http://gbatemp.net/threads/guide-how-to-use-gw-luma3ds-a9lh.424117/

There's really no reason to use that workaround anymore. Just use liomajor's workaround for current A9LH setups, it's soooo much better.
Link: https://gbatemp.net/threads/the-status-of-gateway-and-a9lh.427889/page-16#post-6386005

I am now using my Gateway3DS just fine with an updated 11.0 sysNAND. Using the 3.7.1 Launcher.dat. I however use Luma3DS to update, because I at least know that has Firm0/Firm1 protection.
 

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The only reason people are suggesting updatedsysnand is because it's new. I guarantee that if emunand wasn't a thing and arm9loaderhax introduced emuNAND, everyone would say "use emunand" "better security and stability".
Either way, PERSONALLY I'm using Dual emuNAND plus updatedsysnand. Updated sysNAND is my main boot, emuNAND1 is my 9.2 NAND and emuNAND2 is a region changed (to JP region) emuNAND. Weirdly I removed both from my SD Card and my sysNAND boot is still the same 9 seconds. It's 9 seconds WITH both emuNANDs. People say having an emuNAND increases boot by 2-3 seconds.
 
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the only reason because i didn't deleted my emunand is that if i do that i lose all the games/vc/cia that are on emu(and is really a great amount)creating a new emunand with a minor size didn't resolve that,i ever lost all my installed cia etcc on emu...ok i lost 2gb free,but who cares,because tnx to liomajor right now i can use again my GW card with another 64gb free space on :)
 

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There's really no reason to use that workaround anymore. Just use liomajor's workaround for current A9LH setups, it's soooo much better.
Link: https://gbatemp.net/threads/the-status-of-gateway-and-a9lh.427889/page-16#post-6386005

I am now using my Gateway3DS just fine with an updated 11.0 sysNAND. Using the 3.7.1 Launcher.dat. I however use Luma3DS to update, because I at least know that has Firm0/Firm1 protection.
I didn't know that the problem with Samsung NANDs was fixed. If OP wants to that route, then it should work just fine.

Personally, I'm going to wait until the official release of GW 4.0 before deciding on making the switch. While I commend all of the work that liomajor did to get it to work, I'm still holding a shred of hope that GW releases a compatible A9LH.bin so I don't have to edit payloads to make it boot GW by default and anything else with a button press. I don't have a hardmod nor do I really want to spend the money/time installing one, so I don't want to risk something going wrong because of an edit I made.

The only reason people are suggesting updatedsysnand is because it's new. I guarantee that if emunand wasn't a thing and arm9loaderhax introduced emuNAND, everyone would say "use emunand" "better security and stability".
Either way, PERSONALLY I'm using Dual emuNAND plus updatedsysnand. Updated sysNAND is my main boot, emuNAND1 is my 9.2 NAND and emuNAND2 is a region changed (to JP region) emuNAND. Weirdly I removed both from my SD Card and my sysNAND boot is still the same 9 seconds. It's 9 seconds WITH both emuNANDs. People say having an emuNAND increases boot by 2-3 seconds.
Honestly, I always thought that the boot time argument was pretty pointless. People here like to make it out that having to wait extra seconds to boot up their 3DS is the worst thing that could ever happen. If you simply keep your 3DS in sleep mode instead of turning it off every time you're done using it, then you rarely have to worry about a few "precious" seconds being taken from you when you do actually boot the system.

I also agree that the whole reason that everyone's all about updated SysNAND is because of it being the new hotness, much like how everyone liked to shit on GW once A9LH CFW came to fruition. Things like EmuNAND and GW are still viable options for people to use with a reasonable amount of effort, and they also deserve respect for the important roles they played in the development of the 3DS scene. Without them, there wouldn't be any publicly available CFWs that allow you to use an updated SysNAND.
 
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