Hacking is it a bad idea to install a game .cia to NAND instead of SD and why?

AtomSmasherMazionga · May 25, 2016

title should say it all. my 3ds (o3dsxl Zelda ALBW bundle) is running A9LH and updated sysnand to 11.0. the nand is around 407 MB or so. would I brick my 3ds if I installed a game to it? could I even get to the game if I installed to NAND and not SD? thanks in advance, and sorry if this is a dumb question.

BabyBichu · May 25, 2016

Haven't tried that.
I'm afraid the NAND(Largest one is 1888 MB,maybe most or all of the size r System Things) is not capable of a game,let alone a large one.

Deleted User · May 25, 2016

Darthlink9 said:
title should say it all. my 3ds (o3dsxl Zelda ALBW bundle) is running A9LH and updated sysnand to 11.0. the nand is around 407 MB or so. would I brick my 3ds if I installed a game to it? could I even get to the game if I installed to NAND and not SD? thanks in advance, and sorry if this is a dumb question.

Here, this this find it's way into your mind.
You won't even be able to copy 3DS games to nand It's for twl.
Also, 400 something megabytes? Are you gonna risk all that space?
It's best you install to your card. You don't want a bricked console, do you?

nero99 · May 25, 2016

Only gba VC (I think) and dsi ware install to nand.

AtomSmasherMazionga · May 25, 2016

Nintendo Fanboy said:
Here, this this find it's way into your mind.
You won't even be able to copy 3DS games to nand It's for twl.
Also, 400 something megabytes? Are you gonna risk all that space?
It's best you install to your card. You don't want a bricked console, do you?

harvest moon 3D a new beginning is 300 Mb, as an example. yes, i'd risk the space, so long as I could still play my game. I've only got an 8GB SD card anyway.
also, how/why would it brick my console?

nero99 said:
Only gba VC (I think) and dsi ware install to nand.

FBI has an "install to nand" option. GBA VC does indeed install to nand, don't know about DSiware, pretty sure it does too.

ihaveahax · May 25, 2016

only DSiware and system titles are installed to NAND, everything else (including GBA) is installed to SD.

ih8ih8sn0w · May 25, 2016

I would assume that FBI fails to install a CIA to NAND if it doesn't belong there... NGL, this makes me curious, and I want to try it with an emulator. Making NAND Backups and I will get back once that is done and I have either bricked or failed...

gamesquest1 · May 25, 2016

i think someone who i did a nand mod for had mario 3D land installed to the nand, i remember being a bit thrown off seeing it on the homescreen while there was no SD inserted, everything seemed to be working fine with it there, but personally i wouldn't recommend it just because *reasons*

Clydefrosch · May 25, 2016

dude seriously, delete an old game or buy a bigger sd card. dont mess around in nand.

justln · May 25, 2016

How cheapskate/desperate would you be to risk bricking your 3DS instead of buying a bigger capacity card which is cheap as hell these days?

ih8ih8sn0w · May 25, 2016

Ok, installed the mgba retroarch core (first thing i saw that I could test functionality with)... It does not appear on the home screen after reboot. It is listed with the TWL System Apps and launching causes the Hold power button error

Edit: installing an update CIA appears under the 3ds part of the NAND list in FBI, but the game does not use the update (tested with OR 1.4)

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justln said:
How cheapskate/desperate would you be to risk bricking your 3DS instead of buying a bigger capacity card which is cheap as hell these days?

Someone has to ask these questions. This could be useful some day...

Quantumcat · May 25, 2016

Best case scenario you end up with a black square on your home menu that you can't get rid of (except for finding the culprit and uninstalling it). I don;t think you'd be able to play a 3DS game installed to your NAND.

Deleted User · May 25, 2016

Darthlink9 said:
harvest moon 3D a new beginning is 300 Mb, as an example. yes, i'd risk the space, so long as I could still play my game. I've only got an 8GB SD card anyway.
also, how/why would it brick my console?

FBI has an "install to nand" option. GBA VC does indeed install to nand, don't know about DSiware, pretty sure it does too.

It could brick your console because some mean dick out there might just rename an important system title, somehow change the size, and have it either corrupted, or full of malicious stuff.
That's why installing to the SD card is for the best, because if it isn't a system title. But is still corrupted, you can fix by taking your SD card.

urherenow · May 25, 2016

Darthlink9 said:
FBI has an "install to nand" option. GBA VC does indeed install to nand, don't know about DSiware, pretty sure it does too.

You are WAY outdated. FBI doesn't have that option anymore because it does not need it. It finally puts things right where they belong, and works with DLC (it did not before).

For the OP: Just No. You can't. Not without rebuilding the .cia yourself with a modified rfs (or whatever it's called). The directory matching the TitleLow for commercial 3DS games doesn't even exist in nand. It's created on SD.

Halvorsen · May 25, 2016

It's possible to install some .cias to NAND. Stuff like GBA games won't boot though, and come up with "the SD Card was removed" upon boot. But yeah, it's possible to.

AtomSmasherMazionga · May 25, 2016

justln said:
How cheapskate/desperate would you be to risk bricking your 3DS instead of buying a bigger capacity card which is cheap as hell these days?

how about I have $0.40 in my bank and can't afford one? also, I don't get paid.

Monty Kensicle · May 25, 2016

Darthlink9 said:
how about I have $0.40 in my bank and can't afford one? also, I don't get paid.

Bank accounts usually require a minimum balance otherwise they consider the account closed...

Anyway, do you want one of us to donate an old SD card to you?

Quantumcat · May 25, 2016

Darthlink9 said:
how about I have $0.40 in my bank and can't afford one? also, I don't get paid.

Maybe think about getting a job or getting on unemployment benefit. How do you eat/pay rent/etc?

The Catboy · May 25, 2016

I have better idea. Buy a bigger SD card, this isn't 2004 anymore, you can get a 64GB Class 10 SD card from Wal*Mart right now for maybe 30$ max.

Monty Kensicle · May 25, 2016

Quantumcat said:
Maybe think about getting a job or getting on unemployment benefit. How do you eat/pay rent/etc?

Plot Twist: OP is actually a small poodle-chihuahua mix and that is why they can't afford an SD card.

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