ROM Hack Metal Max 3 Translation Project

MetalFan · May 23, 2016

DarthNemesis're the best man, thank you very much for your prompt response for your help and for your great work improving the tool, thanks. I think this project is going well in a big part thanks to you, I am going to try the improvements and editing the rest of the graphics. Please give me your gmail to share you the alpha patch so you can see it and tell me what you think.

Terithian · May 24, 2016

I finished the battle messages. They should be mostly fine, but I haven't been able to test them in-game yet. There were a couple that I had no idea how to translate, as they were really ambiguous and I didn't know the context, so they'll probably need editing once I or someone else plays the game with it inserted and sees a line that doesn't match what's going on.
Also, any idea how to get the file size down? It's too big, by a couple kb I think, but there's not much I can do about it since Japanese is a fundamentally more compact language than English. It just doesn't work when words like "paralyze" take up 8 characters in English but only 2 in Japanese (まひ).

EDIT: Actually, oddly enough, insertion does work, but only the first time, with a fresh copy of the tool. Weird. I attached a screenshot to show it working in-game. I guess I can test some but there are a little over 150 unique messages, some of which only play at very specific times, so it's a bit difficult to test them all without playing through the entire game.

DarthNemesis · May 24, 2016

Filesize shouldn't matter for the .NAM files, just arm9.txt. As for it only working once, are you using 1.0?

Terithian · May 24, 2016

Oh, I didn't realize you had already updated it with the fix you were talking about. I will be now; hopefully that should fix the issue. So it's only the arm9.txt that I need to watch the filesize for? Phew, I misunderstood and thought it was all the new files, especially since the exception that popped up said "Ran out of room for translated text". I'll have to be careful with that, then; it seems to just be all miscellaneous system text, so I should hopefully have enough leeway to keep the filesize down.

Lakum · May 24, 2016

Terithian said:
I suppose you can if you want. I prefer a more literal translation, myself, as Dr. Mince, as in mincemeat, but both are fine.

I prefer Dr. Mortem, it sounds more grim and serious in my opinion.

Lilfut · May 24, 2016

Jesus, Terithian, yer makin' me look bad.

Great work in here! Personally I prefer Bias Brad just because of the absurdity of the ultimate evil being Some Dude Named Brad, but Vlad is definitely correct.

Also, I don't remember if you had this on your name list, but I feel like ホホアナ should be Ho Ho Hole. It's technically an added pun for the translation, but "ana" technically means "hole" (plus the town's, y'know, a giant hole in the ground) and it's just too good to pass up.

Lakum · May 24, 2016

Lilfut said:
Jesus, Terithian, yer makin' me look bad.

Great work in here! Personally I prefer Bias Brad just because of the absurdity of the ultimate evil being Some Dude Named Brad, but Vlad is definitely correct.

Also, I don't remember if you had this on your name list, but I feel like ホホアナ should be Ho Ho Hole. It's technically an added pun for the translation, but "ana" technically means "hole" and it's just too good to pass up.

Personally I prefer Brad too since it's more likely that some probably american dude would be named Brad then Vlad and it sounds just right.

Lakum · May 24, 2016

By the way, how hard do you think would it be to translate MM4? Do 3DS games use such exotic Pak file formats like DS does and how good are 3DS tools?

Lilfut · May 24, 2016

It's something to consider down the line - I'd want to finish MM3 and MM2R before thinking about that, though.

Terithian · May 24, 2016

Lakum said:
I prefer Dr. Mortem, it sounds more grim and serious in my opinion.

Well, if there's something the Metal Max series is not, it's grim and serious. The entire series is basically a ridiculous post-apocalyptic comedy. It's tough to imagine anything too serious in the same series as things like Madam Muscle and her Protein Palace or the Yojimborg samurai robot. Either Mince or Mortem works, though; there's translated precedence for both: the fan translation of Metal Max Returns named him Mince, closer to the original Japanese, while Atlus' localization of Metal Saga renamed him Mortem, I assume to be more obviously associated with corpses.

Lilfut said:
Also, I don't remember if you had this on your name list, but I feel like ホホアナ should be Ho Ho Hole. It's technically an added pun for the translation, but "ana" technically means "hole" (plus the town's, y'know, a giant hole in the ground) and it's just too good to pass up.

Ah, now that you mention it, I never thought of that since it's just written in katakana like a proper noun or foreign word, but "ana" does mean "hole". That sounds good, so I'll change all mentions of Hohoana I've translated to Hohohole.

cearp · May 24, 2016

Lakum said:
By the way, how hard do you think would it be to translate MM4? Do 3DS games use such exotic Pak file formats like DS does and how good are 3DS tools?

mm4 has been translated into chinese for a while now, maybe go on their forums and ask for some information? i mean, why not

Lilfut · May 25, 2016

Since we're DEFINITELY gonna be doing MM2R after this, and possibly moving onto Season of Steel or MM4 from there, should we come up with like a circle name?

Terithian · May 25, 2016

Hm, maybe. Two words, starting with "Metal", perhaps? Bonus points for alliteration.

Lilfut · May 25, 2016

Metal Maniacs is already taken by that one Japanese fansite, unfortunately.

Terithian · May 25, 2016

Yeah, I know about that; that's what made me think of it. That's the best one, obviously, but I was thinking of something else along similar lines, perhaps.

Lakum · May 25, 2016

Lilfut said:
Since we're DEFINITELY gonna be doing MM2R after this, and possibly moving onto Season of Steel or MM4 from there, should we come up with like a circle name?

Terithian said:
Hm, maybe. Two words, starting with "Metal", perhaps? Bonus points for alliteration.

Lilfut said:
Metal Maniacs is already taken by that one Japanese fansite, unfortunately.

Terithian said:
Yeah, I know about that; that's what made me think of it. That's the best one, obviously, but I was thinking of something else along similar lines, perhaps.

How about Max Metal or Apocalypse Raiders?

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cearp said:
mm4 has been translated into chinese for a while now, maybe go on their forums and ask for some information? i mean, why not

Which forum?

cearp · May 25, 2016

Lakum said:
Which forum?

i'm not sure what team translated it... have a look at this maybe?
http://www.metal-min.com/thread-1445-1-1.html
good luck - i think it's worth at least asking if you have their tools or at least notes/tips, because it could save many hours!

Lakum · May 28, 2016

So how is translation going, from what I understand all items and menus are already translated?

Lilfut · May 28, 2016

Yep! I'm working on the script translation (which is probably the hardest part), and MetalFan's still dealing with some technical issues.

Lakum · May 28, 2016

Lilfut said:
Yep! I'm working on the script translation (which is probably the hardest part), and MetalFan's still dealing with some technical issues.

Nice, by script do you mean dialogues?

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