State of the 'Temp; Summer 2016

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True, however, new generation needs new generation leaders. Not the old ones who are dying in the back of the barn trying to keep up. Instead, the new ones who are healthy and willing to attack when needed. aka the fox
No! Bad forum member! Hiss!

*Kicks the chicken coop*

You'll sit in there and you'll like it, or I'm calling the roosters in! :angry:
 

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While I agree, I'm having trouble understanding what you're suggesting to do. Stricter moderation is one step, but the general age and audience of the temp will remain the same-- as will the general attitude of members here. We need to encourage these people to stop shitposting around with their inside jokes and try to contribute to making Temp better.
 

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While I agree, I'm having trouble understanding what you're suggesting to do. Stricter moderation is one step, but the general age and audience of the temp will remain the same-- as will the general attitude of members here. We need to encourage these people to stop shitposting around with their inside jokes and try to contribute to making Temp better.
IDEA! Disable the EoF for a day as punishment :evil:
 

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IDEA! Disable the EoF for a day as punishment :evil:
I actually think that disabling the EoF for a good amount of time would be a good step. Though it would probably cause shitposting to leak into other threads, it would help at least to get the message across that shitposting is still shitposting whatever section is is and change the general attitude of people on Temp.
 
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I actually think that disabling the EoF for a good amount of time would be a good step. Though it would probably cause shitposting to leak into other threads, it would help at least to get the message across that shitposting is still shitposting whatever section is is and change the general attitude of people on Temp.
See I got good ideas;) I don't think it would. Just watch it like a hawk 24/7 You keep saying you wanna clean up the site but never do. I've personally taken a step forward and stopped my shitposting all together it's not worth it and I have also been trying to be friendlier / more helpful.

1) Spread out the mods - Give them all assigned sub forums to guard
2) If they get bored have a rotation schedule
3) Profit from the clean forums.
 

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@Vulpes Abnocto I have come to the conclusion that this is the result of the twitter, facebook, social media generation coming of age and populating the forum more than anything. This is a generation that are used to just spewing whatever diarrhea that comes into their head all over the forum with no regard of a forums structure, its etiquette and the rules here. Just look at any place that allows comments now, twitch, youtube, whatever and it is a shitfest.

Christmas was pretty bad here as we had a lot of young users with a lot of free time and not a lot of braincells running riot all over the place. I literally had to go on a massive purge just to get things under control, I am glad I had people like @Sicklyboy @Minox and @Bortz amongst others to lend a hand. (if you want context on the situation look at the members notes and a thread I made called "a new low")

But really thinking about it I don't know if it was any worse and more difficult to deal with than pokemon floods years ago, we saw some pretty bad shit go down in those days too. And that was when the internet was somewhat still difficult to access for a lot of people, it wasn't available to absolutely anyone literally in the palm of their hand 24 hours a day.

I would have to disagree with you on one point though, that there aren't as many good members as there were to balance out the trash. There are definitely some great members that have joined in the last couple of years, some that have been good since the start, some that have improved since getting their butts kicked a bit by us. Many of these members are young sure, very young in fact, which is really not necessarily a bad thing. I am looking forward to seeing these type of members mature as members and people and see what they will have to offer GBAtemp a few years down the line from now. I think it will be a lot, and it will be good, I think there is a lot to be optimistic about still. We aren't quite at the point where we should give up hope, we are a long way off from that in fact.
 

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maybe there should be a newb chunk somewhere. let them post all the questions/garbage in the world.

i vote for making the temp invite only :) as long as i don't get the boot if it happens!
 
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It probably still couldn't hurt to get perhaps one or two new people to help oversee the 3DS and Wii U sections, people who know those respective scenes better than most. They wouldn't need banning privileges or anything like that, just let them move threads, lock threads, and delete posts in their respective sections only. That would greatly help cut down on the off-topic threads in the Homebrew Development forum on the 3DS side, for example. Another good action to take in conjunction with that would be to rename the 3DS Flashcart forum to 3DS hacking & cfw help, making it expressly clear that we have a section for those needing help, while the HB Dev section can be related to help with programming, and developer release showcases.

At any rate, I hope the staff will at least think about the two ideas.
 

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See I got good ideas;) I don't think it would. Just watch it like a hawk 24/7 You keep saying you wanna clean up the site but never do. I've personally taken a step forward and stopped my shitposting all together it's not worth it and I have also been trying to be friendlier / more helpful.

1) Spread out the mods - Give them all assigned sub forums to guard
2) If they get bored have a rotation schedule
3) Profit from the clean forums.
I don't think the issue is with how the mods do their job. Stuff is dealt with quickly enough, and if it isn't, it's because users aren't reporting it. I can't clean up the site because I'm not a mod; though I personally keep a high standard in general and refrain from shitposting, while also being enthusiastic in general about contributing (duh) to the Temp and making it a better place.

I'm not against the EOF if people are actually having a good time and doing funny stuff in there (like several old members will tell you it used to be), but right now it's just a place where people can shitpost and contribute jackshit to the temp and get away with it. If you take away the EOF, then people can actually be called out and hopefully banned for their lack of contribution.
 
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I actually think that disabling the EoF for a good amount of time would be a good step. Though it would probably cause shitposting to leak into other threads, it would help at least to get the message across that shitposting is still shitposting whatever section is is and change the general attitude of people on Temp.
Disabling the EoF would be the Internet equivalent of shutting off the septic tank valve - you're not going to have a cleaner installation, you'll just make shit spill all over the floor each time you flush.
 

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Disabling the EoF would be the Internet equivalent of shutting off the septic tank valve - you're not going to have a cleaner installation, you'll just make shit spill all over the floor each time you flush.
To further make use of that analogy, GBAtemp's septic tank is filled to the brim yet people keep flushing and doing nothing about it. It's overflowing into the regular forums as it is, and you have people who come to the GBAtemp RV solely for the purpose of taking a shit. It overflows in the aspect that no one seems to want to do anything but shit and post nothing of value.
 

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I suggest removing the ability for regular users to view ones post count, only admins should have access to that information. Almost willing to bet 50% of nonsense comments would then diminish as they have no goal or objective to meet.

This is a forum not a game!
 
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I suggest removing the ability for regular users to view ones post count, only admins should have access to that information. Almost willing to bet 50% of nonsense comments would then diminish as they have no goal or objective to meet.

This is a forum not a game!
Post count is a big part of it too. Luckily the EOF doesn't count, however that could be taken as a negative as people are willing to post something shitty on a whim to make their e-peen bigger.
 

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Post count is a big part of it too. Luckily the EOF doesn't count, however that could be taken as a negative as people are willing to post something shitty on a whim to make their e-peen bigger.
Post count is why the 3DS section is probably taking such a hit. People know it is a joke. Have you seen it when mods are not on :rofl2:
 

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Part of the problem is in the Wii U sections, with a combination of Cemu and an IOSU exploit being dangled over many member's heads. It seems as though it's become a pirate jungle gym more than anything educational or helpful anymore.

Fortunately, change is coming with the 5.5.x kexploit being released (*cough* sorry, LEAKED), as the pirates are finally getting their fill with Loadiine and some actual homebrew is finally being made, but... hoo boy... I'm very glad you came here now and not, say, 2 months ago, @Vulpes Abnocto
 

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To further make use of that analogy, GBAtemp's septic tank is filled to the brim yet people keep flushing and doing nothing about it. It's overflowing into the regular forums as it is, and you have people who come to the GBAtemp RV solely for the purpose of taking a shit. It overflows in the aspect that no one seems to want to do anything but shit and post nothing of value.
You need a plumber, son. If shit starts spilling outside of the tank, shoveling it won't help - you need to find the blockage. If it takes a rain of suspensions then so be it. I have nothing against young users and I've gotten my fair share of warnings when I shit-stirred, but I always knew that there was a certain community standard to adhere to and if I bent the rules too much, the rules would snap right back at me. Right now that community standard seems to be clouded by, as P1ng eloquently mentioned, standards of Twitter, Tumblr and Facebook, which are fast and disposable media. A message board is not, transgressions on a lasting medium should have lasting consequences, it's a slower form of communication for the purpose of actual discussion. It takes more thought while posting, we need to promote that attitude while condemning posting cheap and disposable trash with no merit or even humorous value. There is a space for septic content and that space is the EoF.
 

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Part of the problem is in the Wii U sections, with a combination of Cemu and an IOSU exploit being dangled over many member's heads. It seems as though it's become a pirate jungle gym more than anything educational or helpful anymore.

Fortunately, change is coming with the 5.5.x kexploit being released (*cough* sorry, LEAKED), as the pirates are finally getting their fill with Loadiine and some actual homebrew is finally being made, but... hoo boy... I'm very glad you came here now and not, say, 2 months ago, @Vulpes Abnocto
So you are using the developers as a excuse on why these sub forums are completely mortifying to any new comer?
 
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