Someone just PM me when the Wii u is fully hackable. I'll buy one then. Following this toxic scene is obnoxious.
Well, I seem to have missed upwards of eight pages of shit, so that's swell.
So since the reason behind not releasing the current, completely working exploit is not having a second exploit as a backup.. why is that a requirement? You guys apparently already have that second exploit in the works, which inplies that you know that, in the end, it will work. Again there's the case of the endgames for both being the same - one kex released, one kex private - with only the difference of wait time. Could anyone explain the reasoning behind it for a poor boy with no family (save him from this monstrosity).
So since the reason behind not releasing the current, completely working exploit is not having a second exploit as a backup.. why is that a requirement? You guys apparently already have that second exploit in the works, which inplies that you know that, in the end, it will work. Again there's the case of the endgames for both being the same - one kex released, one kex private - with only the difference of wait time. Could anyone explain the reasoning behind it for a poor boy with no family (save him from this monstrosity).
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Once its working reliably, the kexploit that is now ready will hopefully be released. Maybe earlier if they know for sure that the alt exploit works.
They would still have a reliable entrypoint: the one they already have, granted they don't update, which is exactly what people have been telling each other to do. There seems to be a decent amount of confidence that this second exploit will be functional eventually, so it's not like they'd be sentencing themselves to an older firmware forever, rather only while they work on the second exploit.
If they're not sure that the second exploit will work, it outright doesn't work, or Nintendo patches it first, then wouldn't the release of the first just sort of.. never happen?
If they're not sure that the second exploit will work, it outright doesn't work, or Nintendo patches it first, then wouldn't the release of the first just sort of.. never happen?
@MRJPGames if you wanted to correct my ethanbradberry thingie, i know that it is written this way > MethaneBadBewy.
jokes aside, er.. well we might get something in the very end, i guess .
jokes aside, er.. well we might get something in the very end, i guess .
well i have been a long time lurker on this site i already own a 5.3.2 wii u and a 5.5.1 one. so i really dont care much for the new exploit, i actually think its a great thing for this web domain for the thousands of people who come here daily to either voice there opinions or just to check if there has been a release,so the longer the developers hang onto it i guess the better
You know my email, so email me the kernel exploit when you got it up and running. Also only send if its for 5.3.2 not 5.5.1!
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Look, you might have your particular reasons to not release an exploit, but so far after hykem´s "fiasco", most users here have lost credibility towards devs. You say that you are looking to find a second exploit or wait for nintendo to patch it, thats valid, but here what most users hear from you is "bla bla bla bla bla i´ve got an exploit and you don´t" "Do you even code bro?". You will find a lot users in here to be very "ungrateful", "whinny", "childish" or so desperate to play free games on their consoles, thats a very vocal part of the users but not fully representative of the userbase.
You might be the ones who code, but really, the end user is more important here because they are the ones which provide the media coverage and the positive feedback a lot of developers here crave for. Hell, they are the ones who donate or click into the adfly links (in case you want to have incomings from your so called hobby). Really, if wii u hacking would have had an enormous userbase in the beginning, another more capable and less elitist hacking team would have already outsmarted all of you and released something to the public YEARS AGO. It´s the lack of userbase interest which has been responsible of the sluggish rate at which this hacking/homebrew community has grown.
The point here is that all your thought process in regards to what you are gonna do with your exploits revolves about having a backup exploit or waiting for nintendo to patch it, you have put zero thought in the remaining wii u´s life span or the community and the poison you have spread with all your bragging, all your failed deadlines and overall, your unwillingness to share. Really, regaining credibility and giving more hope to the community at the cost of burning your exploit would have been way more rewarding than closing lids and looking for backup exploit or nintendo patch.
If you were to find an exploit and release it after nintendo or whatever vendor stops supporting their console, hooray, your exploit will never be patched! But guess what? community is DEATH by then and no developer will develop homebrew, perhaps only piracy (what you have been trying to evade) . The exploit is just the base, an empty lot; without content, your exploit is useless. And thats why all ther other scenes i have seen (thankfully) don´t share your thought process.
You might release in a week (who knows) but that won´t change the fact that it´s may, and a lot people here have been very pissed since december´s fiasco; after all the failed deadlines and overall, unfounded hype they are really toxified by now and have lost any capability to be comprehensive; but even more important than that, that won´t change the fact that wii u´s successor will launch within a year and there is not a proper hacking community established yet. I really don´t know if the community is salvageable by this point, you will have to pray and see if your work wasn´t as fruitless.
It would be very funny if you were to release your exploit and nintendo doesn´t outright patch it or that nintendo´s "stability improvements" would end up opening more security holes. It would be even more funny if another developer worked from scratch and released something before you.
I was looking forward to play emulators from the gamepad, project m 2, enhanced vWii mode, gamecube controller support, usb support, game mods etc; but you know? That might just not happen. Don´t misunderstand me, i have a 5.3.2 console, technically i could do a lot of what i listed above with current kernel hack, but thats not the problem, the problem is that developers simply aren´t interested due to how inconvenient and elitist the community has been which makes wii u hacking very far from being mainstream thus very far from being properly supported.
You might be the ones who code, but really, the end user is more important here because they are the ones which provide the media coverage and the positive feedback a lot of developers here crave for. Hell, they are the ones who donate or click into the adfly links (in case you want to have incomings from your so called hobby). Really, if wii u hacking would have had an enormous userbase in the beginning, another more capable and less elitist hacking team would have already outsmarted all of you and released something to the public YEARS AGO. It´s the lack of userbase interest which has been responsible of the sluggish rate at which this hacking/homebrew community has grown.
The point here is that all your thought process in regards to what you are gonna do with your exploits revolves about having a backup exploit or waiting for nintendo to patch it, you have put zero thought in the remaining wii u´s life span or the community and the poison you have spread with all your bragging, all your failed deadlines and overall, your unwillingness to share. Really, regaining credibility and giving more hope to the community at the cost of burning your exploit would have been way more rewarding than closing lids and looking for backup exploit or nintendo patch.
If you were to find an exploit and release it after nintendo or whatever vendor stops supporting their console, hooray, your exploit will never be patched! But guess what? community is DEATH by then and no developer will develop homebrew, perhaps only piracy (what you have been trying to evade) . The exploit is just the base, an empty lot; without content, your exploit is useless. And thats why all ther other scenes i have seen (thankfully) don´t share your thought process.
You might release in a week (who knows) but that won´t change the fact that it´s may, and a lot people here have been very pissed since december´s fiasco; after all the failed deadlines and overall, unfounded hype they are really toxified by now and have lost any capability to be comprehensive; but even more important than that, that won´t change the fact that wii u´s successor will launch within a year and there is not a proper hacking community established yet. I really don´t know if the community is salvageable by this point, you will have to pray and see if your work wasn´t as fruitless.
It would be very funny if you were to release your exploit and nintendo doesn´t outright patch it or that nintendo´s "stability improvements" would end up opening more security holes. It would be even more funny if another developer worked from scratch and released something before you.
I was looking forward to play emulators from the gamepad, project m 2, enhanced vWii mode, gamecube controller support, usb support, game mods etc; but you know? That might just not happen. Don´t misunderstand me, i have a 5.3.2 console, technically i could do a lot of what i listed above with current kernel hack, but thats not the problem, the problem is that developers simply aren´t interested due to how inconvenient and elitist the community has been which makes wii u hacking very far from being mainstream thus very far from being properly supported.
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Looks like this thread took a turn for the worst while I was gone. I wrote that post quickly over a friends' house since I was busy.
As much as I wanted to help the community, of course it didn't turn out right. I'm sorry for ya'lls, I really am. I want it to survive just like the rest of us, but stuff gets in the way sometimes. I didn't want to say "OMG GETTING EXPLOIT" out loud, since not even I knew what the reply was going to be. I didn't do this to poke fun at the community at all; I actually did it for the community.
This obviously didn't work. We may have to wait again for a little bit.
As much as I wanted to help the community, of course it didn't turn out right. I'm sorry for ya'lls, I really am. I want it to survive just like the rest of us, but stuff gets in the way sometimes. I didn't want to say "OMG GETTING EXPLOIT" out loud, since not even I knew what the reply was going to be. I didn't do this to poke fun at the community at all; I actually did it for the community.
This obviously didn't work. We may have to wait again for a little bit.
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The only thing I got out of this when MN1 and NWPlayer spoke, at least, to my understanding is at the time of writing, there is an exploit that is complete but only one. And that as such, they need to work on what they're calling an alternate exploit to fall back on, do I have that correct? The scene isn't necessarily dead, but only placed on hold? Please correct me if I'm wrong on what I gathered.
Yes. That's what we're aiming for, so we aren't left in the dust.
I just still don't get why having a second exploit is so important; like with the (apparently unnecessary) question of Nintendo patching it before or after release, endgame's the same. A fallback isn't really necessary if the first exploit is patched out, because all the devs are smart enough to simply not update.
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another upper hand is that our IOSU exploit will work on yet another firmware if they patch 1 kernel exploit
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