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Quantumcat · May 1, 2016

I think it's nicer when a dev "trusts" the community by just having a PayPal donation button. It's way more pleasant to just donate a few $ once (by your own choice) then use a dev's tools multiple times, than have to suffer through adfly stuff every time (with no choice). Imagine if Plailect put up adfly links to access his guide.

Ev1l0rd · May 1, 2016

Quantumcat said:
I think it's nicer when a dev "trusts" the community by just having a PayPal donation button. It's way more pleasant to just donate a few $ once (by your own choice) then use a dev's tools multiple times, than have to suffer through adfly stuff every time (with no choice). Imagine if Plailect put up adfly links to access his guide.

Aside from the fact that it would not be possible (Github has a page list, but its folded if you have a custom sidebar), nobody would use the guide anymore.

Quantumcat · May 1, 2016

Ev1l0rd said:
Aside from the fact that it would not be possible (Github has a page list, but its folded if you have a custom sidebar), nobody would use the guide anymore.

I was thinking he'd make it a PDF download or something

gnmmarechal · May 1, 2016

At any rate.

Quantumcat said:
I think it's nicer when a dev "trusts" the community by just having a PayPal donation button. It's way more pleasant to just donate a few $ once (by your own choice) then use a dev's tools multiple times, than have to suffer through adfly stuff every time (with no choice). Imagine if Plailect put up adfly links to access his guide.

No matter what you think, it ultimately is the choice of the developer himself. And others *should* respect his decision.

Kioku · May 1, 2016

gnmmarechal said:
I wish people stopped shittalking others. Rinnegatamante provided a lot of good stuff for this community, and what does this community do? It keeps fucking shittalking him.

Anyway, it's something HE made, he has the right to use Adf.ly - if you don't want to support a developer with 5 seconds of your time - you're an asshole! Does Adf.ly bother you that much?

This community (especially GBATemp) is cancer. Why. the. fuck. do people treat devs like they owe them the programs the way those people want? ffs people, chill, stop, stop shittalking devs. Not just Rinnegatamante either.

Don't defend adfly. It's a cancerous page that people use to try to earn money for next to no reason.

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gnmmarechal said:
At any rate.

No matter what you think, it ultimately is the choice of the developer himself. And others *should* respect his decision.

..... Aaaaaannnd that's a touchy subject. It's hard to respect anyone when they feel they should get paid for what they argue is a hobby.

I'm not aiming this at anyone in particular. It's just sad that you think this way of thinking is okay. No, we don't have to respect that.

I'll respect the hard work put in. That's about it. If they have a donate button, I'll do just that.

If they deserve to be paid for their work? Trust me, they will be. Using a site like adfly is pretty underhanded. It's literally click bait..

moghedien · May 1, 2016

gnmmarechal said:
At any rate.

No matter what you think, it ultimately is the choice of the developer himself. And others *should* respect his decision.

I don't think anyone is saying they shouldn't be able to release their own work as they see fit. Obviously the developer isn't under any obligation to care what anyone else says about the situation, but that doesn't mean that people can't disagree with their choice.

Lumince · May 1, 2016

TheCruel said:
It's funny how everyone knows what I'm talking about because all his releases here just link to his website he promotes. Just because someone makes software doesn't mean people should support how they release it. He has made a lot of good stuff (and a lot of shitty stuff), and that's great. But he's also insufferable whiner and self-promoter.

I was nice enough to link to his dumper in my ScummVM release as opposed to rehosting it somewhere more stable like github. I'm merging upstream to their buildbot for official releases and was going to perhaps link it in their docs too. That helps with site visibility and SEO (adf.ly doesn't). Then he complains he's not getting ad revenue, breaks the links for everyone, and calls them thieves.

If he wants people to sit through ads for a 20kb file that took me an hour to duplicate, then he can fuck off. Nothing about his website I'll be supporting.

Well thats kind of a shitty thing to say. Good job on making something that already exists just because you hate adfly. I don't mind adfly as long as i get what i wanted to download. It might get annoying sometimes, but people can choose what they wish to do with their created code. Doing this will just piss devs off even more and make them say screw updating things. Thats how things die. He literally could just say the same to you. He could say fuck off and just stop developing, and if you say you want that, then you sir can fuck off as well.
I agree with @gnmmarechal

cvskid · May 1, 2016

Didn't think something like that would scare developers from the scene just because they wouldn't make money on the side for doing something they chose to do using spare time that they have. I don't have a problem with it but i can see why others would.

Drakia · May 1, 2016

Biff627 said:
It might get annoying sometimes, but people can choose what they wish to do with their created code. Doing this will just piss devs off even more and make them say screw updating things. Thats how things die. He literally could just say the same to you. He could say fuck off and just stop developing

Wait, from what I can tell, the DSP dumper that Rinnegatamante released is closed source, TheCruel wrote this entirely by himself.

Having alternatives isn't a bad thing (There's multiple CFW, hell it looks like TheCruel will be releasing something to compete with CIAngel pretty soon), and if someone making a competing app makes you quit development, that's on you, not the person who didn't like some aspect of what you were doing and created an alternative for people who felt the same way.

moghedien · May 1, 2016

Biff627 said:
Good job on making something that already exists just because you hate adfly.

Except that it doesn't already exist. Isn't the other software closed source?

Deleted member 386348 · May 1, 2016

I like the idea of having multiple options, I just think the jab at Rinnegatamante was unnecessary.

Drakia · May 1, 2016

Snowdori said:
I like the idea of having multiple options, I just think the jab at Rinnegatamante was unnecessary.

It was a jab at adfly links, the fact you are able to tell exactly who is being referred to based on that shows just how uncommon those links are

Garro · May 1, 2016

People are now complaining about ad.fly sites? And there I thought GBATemp couldn't get any worse with the whole WiiU drama.

Drakia said:
It was a jab at adfly links, the fact you are able to tell exactly who is being referred to based on that shows just how uncommon those links are

Or maybe it's the fact this tool's objetive is to replace a known tool (At least known between those who know what DSP is).

TheCruel · May 1, 2016

Jesus. Yeah, I know people can do what they want with their code. And they can do shitty things with it, in which case I'll call them out on it, especially when they try to tell me I'm doing something wrong.

Notice how 3dbrew, ctrulib, and everything else in the community devs use isn't monetized like that? His software would be nothing without the community effort. So stop trying to defend the self-important whining.

If you want to support what he does because you're scared he'll stop developing, go ahead. That's definitely not one of my fears.

DarkFlare69 · May 1, 2016

Garro said:
People are now complaining about ad.fly sites? And there I thought GBATemp couldn't get any worse with the whole WiiU drama.

Or maybe it's the fact this tool's objetive is to replace a known tool (At least known between those who know what DSP is).

This forum is really turning into shit. In 2014, I lurked the site and saw how everyone was so smart, civil, and knew what they were talking about. Now, it's full of trolls in the Wii U scene, noobs askng questions that have been asked 10 times that day, and people fighting and arguing over petty shit.

But somehow I still like it here.

Garro · May 1, 2016

People act like using adf.ly steals money from their wallet or something. When did people became so self-centered they get angry when others get an incredibly small amount of money for 5 seconds of their time? And lol at "This guy isn't interested in profiting from his work, so you are forbidden to do so either". Probably you're the kind of guy who would pay artists with "exposure" instead of money.

moghedien · May 1, 2016

Garro said:
People act like using adf.ly steals money from their wallet or something. When did people became so self-centered they get angry when others get an incredibly small amount of money for 5 seconds of their time? And lol at "This guy isn't interested in profiting from his work, so you are forbidden to do so either". Probably you're the kind of guy who would pay artists with "exposure" instead of money.

Enjoy your malware

Drakia · May 1, 2016

Garro said:
People act like using adf.ly steals money from their wallet or something. When did people became so self-centered they get angry when others get an incredibly small amount of money for 5 seconds of their time? And lol at "This guy isn't interested in profiting from his work, so you are forbidden to do so either". Probably you're the kind of guy who would pay artists with "exposure" instead of money.

I'm curious, you are so angry that some people dislike adfly links, why does it matter to you? @TheCruel made his own version of something that he thought might be useful to people, something we didn't currently have an open source version of.

Yeah, he poked fun at people who use adfly, but here you are freaking out at him because he poked fun at a shit ad site, you're actually causing a bigger shitshow than he did in his OP, you're actually making this place worse than he is. Think about that.

hobbledehoy899 · May 1, 2016

This is the same reason why I download B.H.'s .cia files.

Garro · May 1, 2016

Drakia said:
I'm curious, you are so angry that some people dislike adfly links, why does it matter to you? @TheCruel made his own version of something that he thought might be useful to people, something we didn't currently have an open source version of.

Yeah, he poked fun at people who use adfly, but here you are freaking out at him because he poked fun at a shit ad site, you're actually causing a bigger shitshow than he did in his OP, you're actually making this place worse than he is. Think about that.

It doesn't matter to me, but forums are to exchange opinion and stuff so yeah. But I agree I kinda expressed myself very aggresively, I admit I enjoy seeing drama but I don't like causing it, I guess I overeacted there heh, sorry about that.

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