Nintendo filed patent for gaming console without disc reader

KingVamp

Haaah-hahahaha!
Member
Joined
Sep 13, 2009
Messages
13,490
Trophies
2
Location
Netherworld
XP
7,954
Country
United States
I agree, especially if they add a 3DS slot. Hell, I'd be very tempted!
That said...

That's a fair statement. It's one of the major reasons why I supported OUYA a ton. It's easier to buy games on a all digital console when the games are less than 25 dollars. This new Nintendo console needs a massive price drop like somewhere in the 40 dollar range for major titles, 35 for some third parties and most games around 25 or less.

It wouldn't and can't be an Ouya. There is a reason why most those games are under $25 from the start. Unless you just want Nintendo and 3rd party quality to suffer and mobile games with more underhanded practices, it is not going to happen.
 

LightyKD

Future CEO of OUYA Inc.
Member
Joined
Jun 25, 2008
Messages
5,541
Trophies
2
Age
38
Location
Angel Grove, CA
XP
5,334
Country
United States
That said...



It wouldn't and can't be an Ouya. There is a reason why most those games are under $25 from the start. Unless you just want Nintendo and 3rd party quality to suffer and mobile games with more underhanded practices, it is not going to happen.

Stop wishing that Nintendo will every have a console that's comparable to Sony and Microsoft. They are out of that game, therefore their game prices need to reflect that. I doubt that games on the next Nintendo console will be at OUYA level but they damn sure wont be at PS4 level.
 

FAST6191

Techromancer
Editorial Team
Joined
Nov 21, 2005
Messages
36,798
Trophies
3
XP
28,321
Country
United Kingdom
I shall have to look up these new patents later but it seems Nintendo Power did not feel like providing numbers or anything.

Anyway did the DSi ever speak to the Wii? Better yet did it ever use the Wii as a kind of hotspot to connect to? If so then they sunk it themselves.

Otherwise the psp/vita connectivity with the various playstations would have to be all the prior art.

" Using sound as a sampling mechanism for reading compressed data"
So I imagined modems/phone couplers, cassette tape based consoles and even TV shows that ended with such things for older devices... Also amusing http://hackaday.com/2014/12/31/running-nintendo-ds-unsigned-code-with-audio/

" Real-time changes to the environment"
If Nintendo manage to get a patent on the idea of a stateful world or a world that scales in response to network driven commands then I am probably going to write off the US patent office for good. If nothing else gambling places have used network driven difficulty adjustments for years and years, and I would love to see a lawyer argue the difference between gaming (as in gambling) and gaming (as in computer/video gaming).
 

KingVamp

Haaah-hahahaha!
Member
Joined
Sep 13, 2009
Messages
13,490
Trophies
2
Location
Netherworld
XP
7,954
Country
United States
Stop wishing that Nintendo will every have a console that's comparable to Sony and Microsoft. They are out of that game, therefore their game prices need to reflect that. I doubt that games on the next Nintendo console will be at OUYA level but they damn sure wont be at PS4 level.
The power gap like the Wii isn't going happen again for their main console. Just because it or maybe the NX isn't as powerful as PS4, doesn't mean you can just knock down the value and work of their games.
 

LightyKD

Future CEO of OUYA Inc.
Member
Joined
Jun 25, 2008
Messages
5,541
Trophies
2
Age
38
Location
Angel Grove, CA
XP
5,334
Country
United States
The power gap like the Wii isn't going happen again for their main console. Just because it or maybe the NX isn't as powerful as PS4, doesn't mean you can just knock down the value and work of their games.

NX Might be closer to PS4 but what happens the PS5 comes out? Are we clearly going to have two consoles in one generation or will the NX be the start of next gen. See my point? There will always be a power game. If not always then at least for the next two console generations.
 

KSP

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Jan 7, 2015
Messages
335
Trophies
0
XP
347
Country
United States
NX Might be closer to PS4 but that happens the PS5 comes out? Are we clearly going to have two consoles in one generation or will the NX be the start of next gen. See my point? There will always be a power game. If not always then at least for the next two console generations.
Unless Nintendo makes the NX 4K. If they make the NX 4K it will essentially be just as powerful as a PS5 and will be able to survive 2 generations, both 8th Generation and 9th.
One console fo 2 gens. Thats the only way.
 

LightyKD

Future CEO of OUYA Inc.
Member
Joined
Jun 25, 2008
Messages
5,541
Trophies
2
Age
38
Location
Angel Grove, CA
XP
5,334
Country
United States
Unless Nintendo makes the NX 4K. If they make the NX 4K it will essentially be just as powerful as a PS5 and will be able to survive 2 generations, both 8th Generation and 9th.
One console fo 2 gens. Thats the only way.

That wont happen either. A 4K game console, I'm talking 4K resolution gaming and not just 4K up scaling and output will probably cost more than a PS4 and that would be murder. After the 3DS debacle and the issues with Wii U, I doubt that Nintendo wants to release a console with an initial price higher than $250 USD
 

WiiCube_2013

Well-Known Member
OP
Member
Joined
Oct 19, 2013
Messages
5,943
Trophies
0
XP
2,315
Country
Gaza Strip
I need to own my stuff, so if this is a digital only system I will not support it.
The only benefit to digital would be if we get amazing sales like with steam,
then we could do a compromise, but knowing Nintendo that's sure not to
happen.
Why are people assuming it to be digital-only? It's not like Nintendo even has a good online service to begin with.
 

LightyKD

Future CEO of OUYA Inc.
Member
Joined
Jun 25, 2008
Messages
5,541
Trophies
2
Age
38
Location
Angel Grove, CA
XP
5,334
Country
United States
Why are people assuming it to be digital-only? It's not like Nintendo even has a good online service to begin with.
Same could have been said about SONY but they changed things around with PS4. The Wii U's online service isn't horrid, it's the damn execution. Going into your friends list and then being shot to the Miiverse when you decide to send a message makes no damn sense. It just makes sending a message twice as long because you have to open two damn programs to send a damn message.
 

WiiCube_2013

Well-Known Member
OP
Member
Joined
Oct 19, 2013
Messages
5,943
Trophies
0
XP
2,315
Country
Gaza Strip
Same could have been said about SONY but they changed things around with PS4. The Wii U's online service isn't horrid, it's the damn execution. Going into your friends list and then being shot to the Miiverse when you decide to send a message makes no damn sense. It just makes sending a message twice as long because you have to open two damn programs to send a damn message.
Online on PS3 was always a joy, I loved playing RDR, GTA, FIFA and plenty of other games online without lag and hey, to send PMs it wasn't restricted to a dumb social community like it is on the Wii U.
 

KSP

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Jan 7, 2015
Messages
335
Trophies
0
XP
347
Country
United States
That wont happen either. A 4K game console, I'm talking 4K resolution gaming and not just 4K up scaling and output will probably cost more than a PS4 and that would be murder. After the 3DS debacle and the issues with Wii U, I doubt that Nintendo wants to release a console with an initial price higher than $250 USD
It'll cost roughly 800 to mass produce a 4K Console running on AMD parts, which means if Nintendo is willing to absorb 200-300 per unit like Sony did during PS3 era, they can release NX4K at around 500 at launch.

This up to Nintendo, we have no control over this, it cost money to play with the big boys. But the only way to solve your dilema is by releasing NX4K.
 

LightyKD

Future CEO of OUYA Inc.
Member
Joined
Jun 25, 2008
Messages
5,541
Trophies
2
Age
38
Location
Angel Grove, CA
XP
5,334
Country
United States
It'll cost roughly 800 to mass produce a 4K Console running on AMD parts, which means if Nintendo is willing to absorb 200-300 per unit like Sony did during PS3 era, they can release NX4K at around 500 at launch.

This up to Nintendo, we have no control over this, it cost money to play with the big boys. But the only way to solve your dilema is by releasing NX4K.

OR - by having traditional gamers FINALLY realize that Nintendo is and has been for a long time, DONE with traditional gaming. The Sony and Microsoft crowd is not the crowd Nintendo cares about and people need to realize that Nintendo gaming is a different beast. This console will be a lightweight, under powered but more powerful than Wii U device shooting for a under 300 dollar price range. Many of you will be mad and I'll be sitting here eating ice cream and saying, I told you so. :) Cheers!
 
Last edited by LightyKD,

KSP

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Jan 7, 2015
Messages
335
Trophies
0
XP
347
Country
United States
OR - by having traditional gamers FINALLY realize that Nintendo is and has been for a long time, DONE with traditional gaming. THe Sony and Microsoft crows is not the crowd Nintendo cares about and people need to realize that Nintendo gaming is a different beast. This console will be a lightweight, under powered but more powerful than Wii U device shooting for a under 300 dollar price range. Many of you will be mad and I'll be sitting here eating ice cream and saying, I told you so. :) Cheers!
I agree Nintendo will never be top dog again, they will probably always sit at around 10million userbase from now on. I don't even know if its even worth for them to keep doing consoles if thats the future.

But I would commend them if they had the ballz to make a 4K NX. It would be the most surprising move in gaming history.
 

FAST6191

Techromancer
Editorial Team
Joined
Nov 21, 2005
Messages
36,798
Trophies
3
XP
28,321
Country
United Kingdom
OR - by having traditional gamers FINALLY realize that Nintendo is and has been for a long time, DONE with traditional gaming.

One of my favourite Terry Pratchett lines is "when a wizard is tired of looking for broken glass in his dinner, [...], he is tired of life.", I wonder if a similar phrase could be constructed and valid here.
 
D

Deleted User

Guest
I don't see how that's impossible. The diagram clearly shows a console with a game card slot. Nothing in the diagram rules out 3DS gaming. This isn't a add-on for the Wii U but a totally new machine. Also, the Wii U wouldn't need a add-on for 3DS gaming. Proper emulation, he's add-on, no.
Then it wouldn't be a 3DS player, it would be something like the GameBoy Tower from Pokémon Stadium. I'm sure modern gamers would love to wait a couple of minutes for a game to load.
 

KingVamp

Haaah-hahahaha!
Member
Joined
Sep 13, 2009
Messages
13,490
Trophies
2
Location
Netherworld
XP
7,954
Country
United States
Not even the PS5 will run true 4K games, especially if it is meant to release so soon like some people think. Btw, 10 million+ isn't something to just scoff at.
NX Might be closer to PS4 but what happens the PS5 comes out? Are we clearly going to have two consoles in one generation or will the NX be the start of next gen. See my point? There will always be a power game. If not always then at least for the next two console generations.
Unless they plan to somehow release a ps5 that is significantly more powerful and cost efficient in the next 2 years than I'm sure they will be fine. Considering they haven't really gotten off the ground, I'm sure they going another 10 years.


Why are people assuming it to be digital-only? It's not like Nintendo even has a good online service to begin with.
I'm fine the way it is, but DeNa is meant to help. They could call in more people to help too.

OR - by having traditional gamers FINALLY realize that Nintendo is and has been for a long time, DONE with traditional gaming. The Sony and Microsoft crowd is not the crowd Nintendo cares about and people need to realize that Nintendo gaming is a different beast. This console will be a lightweight, under powered but more powerful than Wii U device shooting for a under 300 dollar price range. Many of you will be mad and I'll be sitting here eating ice cream and saying, I told you so. :) Cheers!
That might be the price, especially if it has no disc drive, but that doesn't invalidate what I just wrote. Probably $250 - $300 since under $250 is handheld territory and too low.
 
Last edited by KingVamp,

LightyKD

Future CEO of OUYA Inc.
Member
Joined
Jun 25, 2008
Messages
5,541
Trophies
2
Age
38
Location
Angel Grove, CA
XP
5,334
Country
United States
Not even the PS5 will run true 4K games, especially if it is meant to release so soon like some people think. Btw, 10 million+ isn't something to just scoff at.
Unless they plan to somehow release a ps5 that is significantly more powerful and cost efficient in the next 2 years than I'm sure they will be fine. Considering they haven't really gotten off the ground, I'm sure they going another 10 years.


I'm fine the way it is, but DeNa is meant to help. They could call in more people to help too.


That might be the price, especially if it has no disc drive, but that doesn't invalidate what I just wrote. Probably $250 - $300 since under $250 is handheld territory and too low.
Under 250 is handheld territory? Hell under 170 is. Remember when Nintendo tried to release a handheld above 200? All hell broke loose. Lol 250 to me is the sweet spot for a console.
 

Site & Scene News

Popular threads in this forum

General chit-chat
Help Users
  • No one is chatting at the moment.
    SylverReZ @ SylverReZ: @Psionic Roshambo, Thats pretty cool.