Hacking Two Wiis - Same Setup - Different Result

wailer247 · Aug 24, 2015

I've just updated my wii, got it working and offered to do it for a friend. I have done the exact same process to his that I've done to mine, yet his will not boot vc/wiiware in the same way that mine does. He has an exact copy of my ext HDD contents as well. Here is the setup I use:

- working neek2o on ext. HDD
- boot to cfg mod 70r78.10 (real nand)

VC/wiiware works fine for me booting into cfg on real nand this way, but for him it freezes when it goes to load ios 249. Standard wii games work fine on both. Both consoles can boot into neek2o environment using their respective ext. HDDs. What am i missing?

My Syscheck:

sysCheck v2.1.0b19 by Double_A and R2-D2199, Nano
...runs on IOS58 (rev 6176).

Region: NTSC-U
System Menu 4.2U (v481)
Priiloader installed
Drive date: 2008.07.14
Homebrew Channel 1.1.0 running on IOS58
HomebrewFilter ist nicht installiert
Hollywood v0x21
Console ID: 124457326
Boot2 v4
Found 99 titles.
Found 48 IOS on this console. 4 of them are stub.

IOS3 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS9 (rev 1034): No Patches
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
IOS11 (rev 61234): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS12 (rev 526): No Patches
IOS13 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS14 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS15 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS16 (rev 61234): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, Flash Access, NAND Access
IOS17 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS20 (rev 61234): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS21 (rev 1039): No Patches
IOS22 (rev 1294): No Patches
IOS28 (rev 1807): No Patches
IOS30 (rev 61234): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS31 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS33 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS34 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS35 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS36 (rev 61234): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS40 (rev 65535): Trucha Bug
IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS50 (rev 61234): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
IOS52 (rev 65535): Trucha Bug
IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS56 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS57 (rev 5919): No Patches
IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 61234): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS61 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS70 (rev 61234): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS80 (rev 61234): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS222[38] (rev 65535, Info: hermes-v5): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS223[37] (rev 65535, Info: hermes-v5): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS224[57] (rev 65535, Info: hermes-v5): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS236[36] (rev 65535, Info: rev 3351): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS249[56] (rev 21010, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[57] (rev 21010, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii
BC v6
MIOS v10 (DIOS MIOS 2.6.1+)

Report generated on 2015/08/24.

Friend's non working syscheck:

sysCheck v2.1.0b19 by Double_A and R2-D2199, Nano
...runs on IOS58 (rev 6176).

Region: NTSC-U
System Menu 4.3U (v513)
Priiloader installed
Drive date: 2007.02.13
Homebrew Channel 1.1.2 running on IOS58
HomebrewFilter ist nicht installiert
Hollywood v0x11
Console ID: 48596179
Boot2 v4
Found 86 titles.
Found 49 IOS on this console. 5 of them are stub.

IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS9 (rev 1034): No Patches
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
IOS11 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS12 (rev 526): No Patches
IOS13 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS14 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS15 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS16 (rev 512): Stub
IOS17 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS20 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS21 (rev 1039): No Patches
IOS22 (rev 1294): No Patches
IOS28 (rev 1807): No Patches
IOS30 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS31 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS33 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS34 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS35 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS36 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS40 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS50 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
IOS52 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS56 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS57 (rev 5919): No Patches
IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS61 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS62 (rev 6430): No Patches
IOS70 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS80 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS202[60] (rev 65535, Info: hermesrodries-v6): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS222[38] (rev 65535, Info: hermes-v5): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS223[37] (rev 65535, Info: hermes-v5): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS224[57] (rev 65535, Info: hermes-v5): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS236 (rev 65535): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS249[56] (rev 21010, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[57] (rev 21010, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS254 (rev 65280): Stub
BC v6
MIOS v10

Report generated on 2015/08/23.

Foxi4 · Aug 24, 2015

Post sysChecks of both systems, otherwise we won't be able to help you.

https://gbatemp.net/threads/posting-a-system-check.300279/

wailer247 · Aug 24, 2015

Foxi4 said:
Post sysChecks of both systems, otherwise we won't be able to help you.

https://gbatemp.net/threads/posting-a-system-check.300279/

Syschecks added.

portugeek · Aug 24, 2015

Are the contents of your sd cards also exact copies?

If so.. make sure you delete the settings.cfg files, on your friends sd card, for whichever apps are giving him issues.

Let the apps on his Wii generate their own config files.

wailer247 · Aug 24, 2015

portugeek said:
Are the contents of your sd cards also exact copies?

If so.. make sure you delete the settings.cfg files, on your friends sd card, for whichever apps are giving him issues.

Let the apps on his Wii generate their own config files.

shoudn't i be able to plug my hard drive/sd card into his wii and load games on my hdd? because i cant. cfg stalls when trying to load vc/wiiware using ios249 on his wii, and that happens with my hdd and his hdd.

endoverend · Aug 24, 2015

Try changing CFG's IOS to something different, like 250, 223, 224, etc

Foxi4 · Aug 24, 2015

@portugeek is right - each Wii should generate its own specific config files for the USB loaders upon the first time you connect the HDD. The HDD can be shared, the config files should not. Also be sure to have two separate NAND images for the two separate Wii's if you're planning to use NEEK - redirected NAND should be an exact copy of the NAND that's running on the machine. It would probably be preferable in your case to run NEEK from the SD card rather than USB simply because the HDD is supposed to be shared. For games that have trouble running on the default cIOS (249 d2x) do try using HERMES cIOS'es, that usually fixes issues.

portugeek · Aug 25, 2015

wailer247 said:
shoudn't i be able to plug my hard drive/sd card into his wii and load games on my hdd? because i cant. cfg stalls when trying to load vc/wiiware using ios249 on his wii, and that happens with my hdd and his hdd.

Technically yes. But if he has a different setup, for instance with video settings.. widescreen vs 4:3, or 480p vs 480i.. it messes things up with some apps. Emulators especially.

It could also be the sysconfig file in your emu nand. I use USB Loader GX to export my Wii's sysconfig over to the emu nand to help minimize issues.

Another thing that could be giving you an issue is if you have partial nand emulation for your saves instead of FULL. I'm not completely sure about this but if the emu nand is trying to access a different Wii's real nand, (one that it doesn't recognize) that could possibly cause compatibility issues.

wailer247 · Aug 25, 2015

portugeek said:
Technically yes. But if he has a different setup, for instance with video settings.. widescreen vs 4:3, or 480p vs 480i.. it messes things up with some apps. Emulators especially.

It could also be the sysconfig file in your emu nand. I use USB Loader GX to export my Wii's sysconfig over to the emu nand to help minimize issues.

Another thing that could be giving you an issue is if you have partial nand emulation for your saves instead of FULL. I'm not completely sure about this but if the emu nand is trying to access a different Wii's real nand, (one that it doesn't recognize) that could possibly cause compatibility issues.

I fixed it by installing bootmii as ios. I'm not sure why this fixed it, but I noticed the difference in the syschecks. Now if only I could get cfg to return me to real NAND when I play VC/WiiWare titles. Currently it just sends me to neek2o NAND.

portugeek · Aug 25, 2015

wailer247 said:
I fixed it by installing bootmii as ios. I'm not sure why this fixed it, but I noticed the difference in the syschecks. Now if only I could get cfg to return me to real NAND when I play VC/WiiWare titles. Currently it just sends me to neek2o NAND.

Makes sense.. because the Loader calls bootmii to load emuNand. That's my understanding of it. It's the reason for why you need a modified bootmii boot.dol for anything neek related.

JaapDaniels · Aug 25, 2015

could it be your hbc setup/exploit is really old? and the first wii is an older one? that would explain most of it to me...

wailer247 · Aug 26, 2015

JaapDaniels said:
could it be your hbc setup/exploit is really old? and the first wii is an older one? that would explain most of it to me...

I think so. I've had my Wii for a long time. My friend just picked up his Wii second hand about a week ago. I'm not really sure what the deal was, especially since I applied the most recent cios and patches to my Wii as I was doing his.

JaapDaniels · Aug 26, 2015

wailer247 said:
I think so. I've had my Wii for a long time. My friend just picked up his Wii second hand about a week ago. I'm not really sure what the deal was, especially since I applied the most recent cios and patches to my Wii as I was doing his.

the homebrew channel installation is updated , since on new wii's the boot my method used in first attempt we're blocked by the new security. this could well be the case i see, and explained also why the cios ain't working since there's a non functional part of hbc channel software it uses.
only for wii use http://please.hackmii.com/, for wiiu (vwii) use https://gbatemp.net/threads/full-vwii-softmod.339899/

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