Homebrew IronHax & YoutubeHax - FREE HOMEBREW!!!

Tjessx · Aug 16, 2015

Goloki said:
The number of people who can use this exploit is only limited by whether the YT app is available or not. Releasing the exploit before or after it's taken down doesn't affect neither positively nor negatively the reach of the exploit.

Smea may want to wait a few days until more people get their hands on the app, sure, but delaying its launch until the app has been removed doesn't maximize its effectiveness. In fact, releasing it before the app is gone from the eShop may be benefitial, as it may give it more and better publicity by showing a working, tangible exploit.

But, then again, Smea works in mysterious ways. He'll release the exploit whenever he feels it's the time to release it. Everything else is pure speculation on our part.

I'm not saying that if youtube isn't taken down in a month that he won't release it. i'm just saying that he will give it plenty of time before releasing everything.
If you would release it directly, nintendo would almost immediately take it down from the shop since they then know for sure that the hack exists

Wizardkoer · Aug 16, 2015

Tjessx said:
I'm not saying that if youtube isn't taken down in a month that he won't release it. i'm just saying that he will give it plenty of time before releasing everything.
If you would release it directly, nintendo would almost immediately take it down from the shop since they then know for sure that the hack exists

Makes sense. Smea is just trying to make this available for more and more people.

Clydefrosch · Aug 16, 2015

Tjessx said:
I'm not saying that if youtube isn't taken down in a month that he won't release it. i'm just saying that he will give it plenty of time before releasing everything.
If you would release it directly, nintendo would almost immediately take it down from the shop since they then know for sure that the hack exists

they already do know for sure the hack exists. its not like they don't know about smea and his reputation.
they either dont know yet (as in they cant be bothered with that smea kid again so quickly), cant (maybe they have some kind of deal with google) or dont care to pull it now. maybe they're also just working to patch it themselves right now. we'll know soon enough

Goloki · Aug 16, 2015

Tjessx said:
I'm not saying that if youtube isn't taken down in a month that he won't release it. i'm just saying that he will give it plenty of time before releasing everything.
If you would release it directly, nintendo would almost immediately take it down from the shop since they then know for sure that the hack exists

Nintendo took down Ironfall without Smea releasing the exploit. He has shown exactly the same proof of a working exploit in both cases: a video showing the game or application booting up the Homebrew Channel. What makes the case of YT so special? Again, waiting for the app to be taken down before releasing the exploit (no matter if it's three days or three months) doesn't imply that more people will get the app.

But maybe I'm missing something here. How do explain the relation between not releasing the exploit and getting more people to get the app?

Wizardkoer said:
Makes sense. Smea is just trying to make this available for more and more people.

The same applies here. The minute he announced the exploit Nintendo must have caught wind of it. How does staggering the release ensure that more and more people get the app?

Tjessx · Aug 16, 2015

Clydefrosch said:
they already do know for sure the hack exists. its not like they don't know about smea and his reputation.
they either dont know yet (as in they cant be bothered with that smea kid again so quickly), cant (maybe they have some kind of deal with google) or dont care to pull it now. maybe they're also just working to patch it themselves right now. we'll know soon enough

Nobody knows for sure the hack exists

All we see is a know 3ds hacker with a good reputation showing a video of what seems to be the youtube hack (could also be a screenshot, or homebrew he made too fool nintendo).
Nintendo won't take down a game from the eShop whenever someone claims to have found an exploit in them.
But nintendo WILL take down a game from the eShop if they have good reason to believe that the exploit is real.

Every region has it's own "child-company" which makes decisions what they will release/decide what will happen, as if it's some competition for being the most successful region (just like coke zero, lite, normal, ....).
It seems that america believes that this exploit is a thread, but europe doesn't yet.

For as far as they're consernd, someone just hyped the entire homebrew community with a easy-to-fake vine

And that's good for us, since it will take longer for them to consider taking youtube down.

Phil5004 · Aug 16, 2015

In the ''Video'' it Say's Change Firmware Version.. So We can Downgrade Someting? If I'm right then it's really nice

Shubshub · Aug 16, 2015

Phil5004 said:
In the ''Video'' it Say's Change Firmware Version.. So We can Downgrade Someting? If I'm right then it's really nice

Considering Smealum is against piracy there is a 100% Chance that you are incorrect It's probably just the page that generates the hax data and you need to supply your firmware version to do so (Also before you say anything it is entirely possible to have had Youtube before 9.9 So some people might not have updated) Plus Downgrading is Physically Impossible with userland

Phil5004 · Aug 16, 2015

But It's possible that he modify all to downgrade to 9.2 for More Homebrew etc.

Wizardkoer · Aug 16, 2015

Shubshub said:
Considering Smealum is against piracy there is a 99.9% Chance that you are incorrect It's probably just the page that generates the hax data and you need to supply your firmware version to do so (Also before you say anything it is entirely possible to have had Youtube before 9.9 So some people might not have updated)

Lol the reason he says he is against piracy is probably because of legal issues but probably in real life he does it.

Shubshub · Aug 16, 2015

Phil5004 said:
But It's possible that he modify all to downgrade to 9.2 for More Homebrew etc.

Shubshub said:
Considering Smealum is against piracy there is a 100% Chance that you are incorrect Plus Downgrading is Physically Impossible with userland

Plus 9.2 Allows Kernel Access which Allows Piracy which again

Shubshub said:
Considering Smealum is against piracy

Goloki · Aug 16, 2015

Tjessx said:
Nobody knows for sure the hack exists
All we see is a know 3ds hacker with a good reputation showing a video of what seems to be the youtube hack (could also be a screenshot, or homebrew he made too fool nintendo).
Nintendo won't take down a game from the eShop whenever someone claims to have found an exploit in them.
But nintendo WILL take down a game from the eShop if they have good reason to believe that the exploit is real.

Every region has it's own "child-company" which makes decisions what they will release/decide what will happen, as if it's some competition for being the most successful region (just like coke zero, lite, normal, ....).
It seems that america believes that this exploit is a thread, but europe doesn't yet.

For as far as they're consernd, someone just hyped the entire homebrew community with a easy-to-fake vine
And that's good for us, since it will take longer for them to consider taking youtube down.

There is no more proof of Tubehax's being real than there was of Ironhax. And yet NoE (and a few hours later, NoA) quickly removed it from the eShop. Why is NoA now afraid of this exploit but NoE isn't? Makes no sense. You are creating this narrative that fits what you believe, but, so far, it's been nothing by pure speculation...

Tjessx · Aug 16, 2015

Goloki said:
There is no more proof of Tubehax's being real than there was of Ironhax. And yet NoE (and a few hours later, NoA) quickly removed it from the eShop. Why is NoA now afraid of this exploit but NoE isn't? Makes no sense. You are creating this narrative that fits what you believe, but, so far, it's been nothing by pure speculation...

It's just a theory,

hacksn5s4 · Aug 16, 2015

i think its going to be released soon he just got into come shit the last week and he could not finish it so id expect it to release in a few days or a day or 2
he said it was pretty much done on twitter

Shubshub · Aug 16, 2015

Tjessx said:
It's just a theory,

A GAME THEORY

Tjessx · Aug 16, 2015

Goloki said:
Nintendo took down Ironfall without Smea releasing the exploit. He has shown exactly the same proof of a working exploit in both cases: a video showing the game or application booting up the Homebrew Channel. What makes the case of YT so special? Again, waiting for the app to be taken down before releasing the exploit (no matter if it's three days or three months) doesn't imply that more people will get the app.

Nintendo didn't take down ironfall when smealum said "Download this game for free homebrew", Nintendo took it down 1 day after Smealum gave proof (the vine).

duwen · Aug 16, 2015

Goloki said:
There is no more proof of Tubehax's being real than there was of Ironhax. And yet NoE (and a few hours later, NoA) quickly removed it from the eShop. Why is NoA now afraid of this exploit but NoE isn't? Makes no sense. You are creating this narrative that fits what you believe, but, so far, it's been nothing by pure speculation...

Your mind is playing tricks with you - they left Ironfall up for at least 48hrs before it got pulled from any of the eshops (check back through this thread to see exactly when, because I can't remember and I can't be bothered just to point out the flaw in your logic).
At this point, they've not left Youtube up any longer than Ironfall was available for.

Clydefrosch · Aug 16, 2015

Tjessx said:
Nintendo won't take down a game from the eShop whenever someone claims to have found an exploit in them.
But nintendo WILL take down a game from the eShop if they have good reason to believe that the exploit is real.

Every region has it's own "child-company" which makes decisions what they will release/decide what will happen, as if it's some competition for being the most successful region (just like coke zero, lite, normal, ....).
It seems that america believes that this exploit is a thread, but europe doesn't yet.

For as far as they're consernd, someone just hyped the entire homebrew community with a easy-to-fake vine
And that's good for us, since it will take longer for them to consider taking youtube down.

what would smea gain from faking it though? what would he gain from youtube being removed from the eshop for nothing? what does he gain from everyone getting youtube now? what more reason than smea being involved does nintendo really need? its not like he is 'just someone claiming something'. he's the guy that keeps finding exploits in their systems. how many more does he need to find before you believe that nintendo believes him by default?
theres ample reasons why it took so and so many hours for a game to get taken down, among them that the eshop servers seem to update only once a day at a specific time, with nintendo being as rigid a company as it is, there's probably a gauntlet of forms that need to move though many hands first.

and what do you mean that europe doesnt believe the exploit isnt a threat?

The Real Jdbye · Aug 16, 2015

Nintendo has just seen the front page post and are now discussing whether to pull it from the eShop now or wait for proof or a release. Stay tuned for more.

hacksn5s4 · Aug 16, 2015

if you made fake vines doing this you could get all the games taken off the eshop

Clydefrosch · Aug 16, 2015

hacksn5s4 said:
if you made fake vines doing this you could get all the games taken off the eshop

yeah and i agree, you and me and some other random nameless guy, theres good reason for nintendo not to care at all.
but then there's a few hackers with actual reputation who didn't do this for the first time. and then suddenly yes, there's little reason for a company to doubt them

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