Hacking Wii U Hacking & Homebrew Discussion

PamiPumiKyun · Jul 30, 2015

- Where you boot from WiiU, you don't load the vWii, you just play directly (as far as i understand). Also, you can play those games (those launched from WiiU) with your gamepad as a classic controller (if supporter by original game)
- Right now you can't emulate that wiimote, but as far as i understand, they will make that emulation thing when the WiiU get hacked (play Wii games with gamepad)
- Again, with WiiU hack, they will be able to emulate a lot of controllers with the gamepad
- The games come in an aspect ratio and that. They can hack that, but i GUESS it would be a game by game hack, so i guess they will just let the game be the scale they (the games) want and put emulators (which can upscale, but it is more a thing of the emulator)
- Please don't talk about Iwata-san these days. What he was talking about was that the Wii games are run into a VC which doesn't even know the gamepad exists. With hacking, you can change things. He was talking about doing it without messing with the VC.

JaceCearK1 · Jul 30, 2015

PamiPumiKyun said:
- Where you boot from WiiU, you don't load the vWii, you just play directly (as far as i understand). Also, you can play those games (those launched from WiiU) with your gamepad as a classic controller (if supporter by original game)
- Right now you can't emulate that wiimote, but as far as i understand, they will make that emulation thing when the WiiU get hacked (play Wii games with gamepad)
- Again, with WiiU hack, they will be able to emulate a lot of controllers with the gamepad
- The games come in an aspect ratio and that. They can hack that, but i GUESS it would be a game by game hack, so i guess they will just let the game be the scale they (the games) want and put emulators (which can upscale, but it is more a thing of the emulator)
- Please don't talk about Iwata-san these days. What he was talking about was that the Wii games are run into a VC which doesn't even know the gamepad exists. With hacking, you can change things. He was talking about doing it without messing with the VC.

Most of what you said is common knowledge.
I wanted to ask those who have the system access if and how someone can do this stuff!
And why shouldn't I talk about Mr Iwata? I was also very sad about his passing but why shouldn't I talk about him? o.O

PamiPumiKyun · Jul 30, 2015

Just that is a bit rude to quote n.n

If you want the instruction per instruction explanation, then i want too *O*

soniczx123 · Jul 30, 2015

Marionumber1 said:
Pretty much the same thing as the 5.3.2 one, except due to being on the latest version, we can use the kernel exploit and then use hacks online. NWP is already well on his way to ruining online play by doing so.

Even Caffine works?

JaceCearK1 · Jul 30, 2015

soniczx123 said:
Even Caffine works?

@Mathew_Wi answered it already!

soniczx123 · Jul 30, 2015

JaceCearK1 said:
@Mathew_Wi answered it already!

How exactly is this a reprensentation for caffine on 5.4.0?

(not wanting to sound rude or something)

Mathew_Wi · Jul 30, 2015

soniczx123 said:
How exactly is this a reprensentation for caffine on 5.4.0? (not wanting to sound rude or something)

Cafiine works.

JaceCearK1 · Jul 30, 2015

soniczx123 said:
How exactly is this a reprensentation for caffine on 5.4.0? (not wanting to sound rude or something)

He injects the ROM of Banjo-Kazooie into the VC and overwrites the OoT ROM. I'd say that's very Cafiiney isn't it?

soneek · Jul 30, 2015

So, model swapping sort of works in Smash U.

soniczx123 · Jul 30, 2015

soneek said:
So, model swapping sort of works in Smash U.

When the music suddenly stop in the Stage Select Screen, is it because of the network?

JaceCearK1 · Jul 30, 2015

soniczx123 said:
When the music suddenly stop in the Stage Select Screen, is it because of the network?

Of course!

All the stuff needs to be loaded and doing so via network instead of e.g. an SSD requires more time!

oumoumad · Jul 30, 2015

For all the people asking is it safe to update to 5.4.0 and can't wait.
You should remember same thing happened with 5.3.2 and the developpers said it's safe. However soon enough people got pissed off and started blaming the developpers for updating from the version that already had an exploit.
I can see this repeating again.

For me personally, if NWplayer123 or MN1 or Hykem says it's safe to update, I will update based on their words, and if it ends up not working I don't care because it's a trust thing, I trust their efforts that doesn't mean I expect them to guarantee the results 100%.

So anyway, I am on 5.4.0, the developpers said there's a kernel exploit in it and their working on the webkit exploit, that is enough for me personally. If it's successfully hacked, that's great, if not, well most of us originally bought the Wii U to enjoy playing its official stuff. For those who bought the Wii U only for homebrew, I would suggest to keep it offline until it's possible to hack it.

FusionGamer · Jul 30, 2015

oumoumad said:
You should remember same thing happened with 5.3.2 and the developpers said it's safe

Except 5.3.2 is safe.

oumoumad said:
However soon enough people got pissed off and started blaming the developpers for updating from the version that already had an exploit

LOL What? Nintendo updated the firmware, not the developers, dimwit.

NWPlayer123 · Jul 30, 2015

So I tried poking around with TCPGecko, it looks like they literally do just run cafe2wii and then the game (presumably in a special mode to launch right to it), so TCPGecko is a no-go, I couldn't even get it to connect :\

the_randomizer · Jul 30, 2015

NWPlayer123 said:
So I tried poking around with TCPGecko, it looks like they literally do just run cafe2wii and then the game (presumably in a special mode to launch right to it), so TCPGecko is a no-go, I couldn't even get it to connect :\

Damn....that's not good -_-

SirByte · Jul 30, 2015

oumoumad said:
I am on 5.4.0, the developpers said there's a kernel exploit in it and their working on the webkit exploit,

WiiU hacking is a Tri-force: (1) Userland-exploit (e.g. Webkit), (2) Kernel-exploit and (3) IOSU-exploit; so (1) is worked on, (2) is available, we don't know anything about (3). I'm staying on 3.1.0 for now (games I like work on it), reverse-engineering the fixes Nintendo did to 3.1.0+ firmwares might lead to a IOSU exploit. I'm hoping at one point we'll have a SysUpdaterU that can use NUSDownloader to update any version to any version just like it's being done right now on the 3DS.

oumoumad · Jul 30, 2015

FusionGamer said:
Except 5.3.2 is safe.

LOL What? Nintendo updated the firmware, not the developers, dimwit.

I assume you were not here about 2 months ago when people started blaming developpers for saying 5.3.2 is safe after they updated their console to it. I didn't mean the nintendo's update, maybe I wasn't very clear on my wording.

Anyway, I just shared my personal view on the matter ^^, people can do what they want. No one is forcing anyone or paying anyone to do anything.

soniczx123 · Jul 30, 2015

NWPlayer123 said:
So I tried poking around with TCPGecko, it looks like they literally do just run cafe2wii and then the game (presumably in a special mode to launch right to it), so TCPGecko is a no-go, I couldn't even get it to connect :\

If you wouldn't mind, could you explain in more detail what that means?

Marionumber1 · Jul 30, 2015

soniczx123 said:
If you wouldn't mind, could you explain in more detail what that means?

I assume he's talking about the eShop Wii games. Since they still have DRH support, though, it seems that cafe2wii has been modified to more flexibly sandbox certain hardware. Plus vWii IOS likely pretends the Gamepad is a Wii Remote.

JaceCearK1 · Jul 30, 2015

Marionumber1 said:
I assume he's talking about the eShop Wii games. Since they still have DRH support, though, it seems that cafe2wii has been modified to more flexibly sandbox certain hardware. Plus vWii IOS likely pretends the Gamepad is a Wii Remote.

So that means all the "we can't do GamePad controls on retail games because they run on the bare metal" in nonsense and could actually work after a small change to either cafe2wii's or vWii IOS's code?

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