Do you believe in life after death?

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Who was misrepresenting science and what is my "cause"?
The makers of "What The Bleep Do We Know?" misrepresented science to further the cult of Ramtha.

You, I believe, merely misunderstand some of the science you quote in support of your beliefs as the aforementioned law of conservation of energy. I never told you that you were wrong about souls existing forever and whatever else it is you believe about spirituality, just that your appeal to physics in support of this belief is misguided.
 

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The makers of "What The Bleep Do We Know?" misrepresented science to further the cult of Ramtha.

You, I believe, merely misunderstand some of the science you quote in support of your beliefs as the aforementioned law of conservation of energy. I never told you that you were wrong about souls existing forever and whatever else it is you believe about spirituality, just that your appeal to physics in support of this belief is misguided.

See there, I'm actually Atheist bro, I actually don't believe in an afterlife or a sky daddy, I'm a "student" of QM and was just theorizing but have a nice day
 

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I'm not a religious person so the whole "When we die we'll either go to heaven/paradise or hell" though with so many people claiming that they saw the after life it has made me curious but there's no solid proof (actual images and/or sound).

What are your thoughts?

I used to think that when we'd die we'd just die and that'd be it, but who knows, there might be something else to it (sure as heck I wouldn't be willing to try it out, lol).

In order to experience the paranormal you can't just sit in your room waiting for something to happen unless you live in a haunted house.
Ghost Towns are favorites for ghost hunters because of all the actual paranormal activity that happens at them.

I posted this on another thread about the paranormal , I went to a ghost town and collected SOUND evidence known as EVPs.
As I said , you can't just walk around your normal non haunted house trying to get EVPs , you have to go to where the ghosts are.

A Ghost Prostitute tried to Undress me VIDEO PROOF !



3D VERSION :

Background story is this , I went to the Rhyolite ghost town and filmed it all in 3D on my phone.
I then got to the brothel where the activity began.
Then I found out there was a grave just behind the brothel , but I did not know it at the time of the initial ghost interaction.

The reason I began to talk to the ghost was because of the smell of perfume.
This is all true , and people before me had believed the Rhyolite ghost town to be a haunted place.
But this was my experience , and I also did not know at the time anything about Rhyolite being haunted.
 

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There has literally never been in the history of Earth verifiable evidence of the "supernatural." Each time it is disproven or shown to be naturally provable. This is nonsense. Despite the millions of scientists who would stand to gain millions/billions of dollars for discovering magic it has never happened.
 

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In order to experience the paranormal you can't just sit in your room waiting for something to happen unless you live in a haunted house.
Ghost Towns are favorites for ghost hunters because of all the actual paranormal activity that happens at them.

I posted this on another thread about the paranormal , I went to a ghost town and collected SOUND evidence known as EVPs.
As I said , you can't just walk around your normal non haunted house trying to get EVPs , you have to go to where the ghosts are.

A Ghost Prostitute tried to Undress me VIDEO PROOF !



3D VERSION :

Background story is this , I went to the Rhyolite ghost town and filmed it all in 3D on my phone.
I then got to the brothel where the activity began.
Then I found out there was a grave just behind the brothel , but I did not know it at the time of the initial ghost interaction.

The reason I began to talk to the ghost was because of the smell of perfume.
This is all true , and people before me had believed the Rhyolite ghost town to be a haunted place.
But this was my experience , and I also did not know at the time anything about Rhyolite being haunted.

EVPs are bullshit, the one in that video is hilariously similar to the sound of clothes rustling against something, even worse is the fact that you've upped the volume of the audio significantly.

And nope, I've read a good bit about most major religions and a lot of new age philosophy bullshit and I've yet to see anything that's actually a compelling reason to believe in life after death. Psychics, EVPs, mediums, poltergeists, all that shit is just the product of an overactive imagination.
 

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as long as it is a biological solution and not this nut bag idea of transhumanism
these people are crazy thinking they can actually download consciousness into a machine
even they attain sentient computers and manage to overcome heisenberg uncertainty
and upload their brain it still is not the same as their own consciousness , what are they thinking?

the only way is to find the gene that controls aging, looking at the genes of the giant tortoise and parrots and other animals with longer life spans than humans is a good place to start

I agree that downloading yourself to a computer probably wouldnm't work. After all, a copy of you isn't you.

Yet consider this; every last atom in the human body is replaced within 10 years. The Ship Of Theseus problem tells us that we are merely the set of parts we were born with, but instead an ongoing process, a patchwork.

With that being said, I think the steady replacement of neurons with artificial ones, eventually resulting in the replacement of the entire brain with an artificial brain, might be one's best bet.

Horrifying, to be sure (since you have to be awake for the entire process), but possibly the only way you'll ever be able to hold on to your memories and live forever.
 

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EVPs are bullshit, the one in that video is hilariously similar to the sound of clothes rustling against something, even worse is the fact that you've upped the volume of the audio significantly.

And nope, I've read a good bit about most major religions and a lot of new age philosophy bullshit and I've yet to see anything that's actually a compelling reason to believe in life after death. Psychics, EVPs, mediums, poltergeists, all that shit is just the product of an overactive imagination.

You have fallen into the bad argument of taking the worst part of something and then lifting it up as the best example , when in fact the video has at least 8 examples of EVP evidence , now to be fair , if you stopped at the first one , I spoke even in the video that it might be hard for some to hear , however there were many more after that including some music.
But I told the story as it happened and that was the first one.

There were probably less then 10 people at that ghost town and many of them had driven away , at the brothel no one was there as you can see in the video I have the place to myself.
I've looked around on the internet about Rhyolite after my trip and I am not the first to say it's haunted , or that the lone grave is haunted.

You can't hear EVPs at the time they are made , you hear them in playback and they are often in the background by nature , there's nothing I can do about that.
You have to visit a haunted location to prove it to yourself , I didn't know this place was haunted though , it's just I started smelling perfume at the brothel and that's what led to the rest.

To be clear I never said a word about religion in my postings or in the video , religion was not a factor or a concern.
I'm talking about human spirits not religion.
I walked around that whole place and the brothel is the only area I did any of the ghost hunting stuff because of the smell of perfume.
The smell disappeared which I also mention in the video.
If you go to haunted locations and never experience a single thing , then that will be your reality.
But my proof is in the video.

I don't think video and audio ghost proof is something you can give someone to MAKE them believe , much like The Matrix , you have to experience it for yourself.
 

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To be honest i kind of do believe it but i am not sure if i would want it...

If we live forever can we still have free will? If not there would be so many downsides in my opinion

But then i ponder about some of my dead relatives and one whom recently passed i wish so much that i could see them for a bit again and tell them what i've done etc..
 

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As someone who has been on both sides of this issue, being an atheist is easier in my humble opinion. I'd rather believe that I just turn to dust than believe in ANY possibility of going to hell. Believing in/accepting Christ is the solution but the very idea of hell is FUCKING SCARY.

Believing the universe was randomly created from nothing takes more faith than believing in God imo, but I'm no physicist.
 
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As someone who has been on both sides of this issue, being an atheist is easier in my humble opinion. I'd rather believe that I just turn to dust than believe in ANY possibility of going to hell.

Then be glad that there is no eternal torture.

Death is the payment of sin and so once a person has died, they've completed the payment. To continue punishing the person would be both cruel and illogical. Not to mention that if such a torment is overseen by the Devil, then it would have required a contract with God, which the latter would never do.
 
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Then be glad that there is no eternal torture.

Death is the payment of sin and so once a person has died, they've completed the payment. To continue punishing the person would be both cruel and illogical. Not to mention that if such a torment is overseen by the Devil, then it would have required a contract with God, which the latter would never do.
I don't think any divine, omnipotent being would be hung up on something so petty as eternally punishing one particular species after their death for simply not worshipping it. Seems like the fantasies of those that want power over simpletons that can't accept the idea of their own mortality
 

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That's kind of the point of Christ sacrificing himself, to pay for the sins of humanity. In Christianity, if you accept Christ you are free of sin. Religion is often used as a tool by the power hungry but that's an improper use of it. I'm admittedly new to religion though so I have a lot to learn.

From my(very) limited understanding of religion, my take on the old testament is that being forced to live under the original law without any way of being forgiven of sin was our original punishment for eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge and betraying God, but what do I know? Lucifer/Satan used to be a messenger of God and keep in mind that in spiritual terms, we are fallen just as he is.
 

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Maybe Lucifer betrayed God because he realized God was an asshole. I mean, that "forbidden fruit" contained wisdom, meaning Adam and Eve were forbidden from knowledge. That's like China blocking Wikipedia and along comes Google and whispers into the ears of it's citizens that they can proxy around that block and access this wealth of knowledge. Who's the bad guy?
 

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The forbidden fruit was clearly something humans couldn't bear because it made Adam and Eve mortal/allowed them to die. My interpretation is that humans, while made of flesh, were originally supposed to be immortal, living with the Lord for eternity in Eden. The fruit was poison, and was a test to see if we would disobey God or not with the serpent being the one who convinced us to betray God, although we had to do it of our own free will. God gave us the option of obtaining knowledge for a price or living in paradise and I have faith that God had a damn good reason to forbid it.

I don't see God as an asshole since there was literally one rule we had to obey in paradise and we failed. Now, I have no idea what Eden, the fruit etc actually symbolized(if it is indeed symbolism) as I'm rather new to religion as I said before but blaming God seems uncalled for. The point is, we refused to trust God and trusted the false idol, Lucifer instead. Lucifer simply wanted power and was jealous of God from what I understand.

edit: I'm just assuming the serpent was Satan/Lucifer. It doesn't explicitly state that in the bible but don't quote me on that.
 

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The forbidden fruit was clearly something humans couldn't bear because it made Adam and Eve mortal/allowed them to die. My interpretation is that humans, while made of flesh, were originally supposed to be immortal, living with the Lord for eternity in Eden. The fruit was poison, and was a test to see if we would disobey God or not with the serpent being the one who convinced us to betray God, although we had to do it of our own free will. God gave us the option of obtaining knowledge for a price or living in paradise and I have faith that God had a damn good reason to forbid it.

I don't see God as an asshole since there was literally one rule we had to obey in paradise and we failed. Now, I have no idea what Eden, the fruit etc actually symbolized(if it is indeed symbolism) as I'm rather new to religion as I said before but blaming God seems uncalled for. The point is, we refused to trust God and trusted the false idol, Lucifer instead. Lucifer simply wanted power and was jealous of God from what I understand.

edit: I'm just assuming the serpent was Satan/Lucifer. It doesn't explicitly state that in the bible but don't quote me on that.
God placed the temptation of the forbidden fruit in the garden in the first place. God is omnipotent, knew they would fail. Punishes them for failing. Not an asshole at all.
 

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