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Typhin · Jun 1, 2015

Xirix said:
It's been a little while since I updated Emunand with my gateway, if I remember correctly all I have to do is replace the launcher.dat, boot into gateway mode and then go to system update right?

If your Launcher.dat is not the 3.2.1 version, you will need to replace it. As long as you have the 3.2.1 version of the Launcher, you can use System Settings > Update System Software to perform the update. Just make sure you're in your emuNand when you do so. Since you verified you have an Old 3DS, you will be able to run the latest 9.7 in emuNand.

bluejays said:
I've had trouble finding the answer to this pardon my bad searching ability. But if I were to load a backup of a game that can play online would I be able to play online just the same as my original copy of the game or do I have to do another step. Also if I wanted to buy a 3ds from my local best buy that is compatible with the currents flashcarts which models would I be looking at?(I live in Canada)

If you make the backup from your own retail card, then there is nothing you need to do. If you obtain a backup through other means, you will need to add a private header to the backup in order to safely play online. There are multiple guides on how to do this, and the steps are a bit different based on what equipment you have.

As for obtaining a compatible 3DS, there's a bit of luck involved. There is a thread that tries to link serial numbers to starting System Version, since serial number and manufacture date should be somewhat linked. You might be able to return it if it turns out to not be compatible, I'm not familiar with Best Buy's return policy. That's something I'd look into before purchasing, though.

Awesomeaustin316 · Jun 1, 2015

ANother question guys, Does the gateway red card use micro sd's formatted under fat 32 or exFAT ?

Melon__Bread · Jun 1, 2015

Awesomeaustin316 said:
ANother question guys, Does the gateway red card use micro sd's formatted under fat 32 or exFAT ?

It can do either. Now this does not apply to the 3DS system seeing as how that only does fat32.

ehnoah said:
Is there any way to Backup Savegames from Pokemon from the CIAs?

I guess backup Nintedo3DS Folder not help.

Yes, you need to get a hold of a tool from the leaked 3DS SDK called savedatafiler

Awesomeaustin316 · Jun 1, 2015

Melon__Bread said:
It can do either. Now this does not apply to the 3DS system seeing as how that only does fat32.

Thank you , quick reply

Godson777 · Jun 1, 2015

thorasgar said:
No! That is so stupid!

9.5 is the highest for new 3DS.

Make sure up you make a backup of emuand on a regular basis with emuand tool so you if you do screw it up you dont loose to much.

I see what you did there.

So then, how would I update emuNAND? My cousin's N3DS is 9.7 so using system update wouldn't work, right?

Typhin · Jun 1, 2015

Godson777 said:
I see what you did there.

So then, how would I update emuNAND? My cousin's N3DS is 9.7 so using system update wouldn't work, right?

If your cousin's system is already on 9.7, then it cannot use Gateway or emuNand. 9.2 is the last exploitable System Version currently. If your sysNand is 9.2 or below, you can get into emuNand, and install the 9.5 files that way to update emuNand.

Also, if you're already on 9.7, that's the latest version so far, so there's nothing to update.

I'm not sure what you're asking, so if this didn't answer your question, please post more about your specific situation and what you're trying to get to, or any other questions you might have.

Godson777 · Jun 2, 2015

Typhin said:
If your cousin's system is already on 9.7, then it cannot use Gateway or emuNand. 9.2 is the last exploitable System Version currently. If your sysNand is 9.2 or below, you can get into emuNand, and install the 9.5 files that way to update emuNand.

Also, if you're already on 9.7, that's the latest version so far, so there's nothing to update.

I'm not sure what you're asking, so if this didn't answer your question, please post more about your specific situation and what you're trying to get to, or any other questions you might have.

Sorry, was on mobile when I wrote my previous message, and this current one.

Basically, my cousin has a 9.7 SysNAND N3DS. (So he's screwed, the poor thing.) And my emuNAND, if I recall correctly, is 9.4. And thus, my system won't let me even use the majority of online features, eShop isn't too much of a problem for me. But prevents me from updating my game, and get DLC for some of my legit games. Of course I could always .CIA for updates and DLC but that'll require quite a bit of searching which I'm not up for unless it's my last resort.

And because 9.7 exists, I can't update my emuNAND using system update, and I haven't been around the 3DS scene for a while. So I wasn't sure if there was a way to update "offline", like they used to in the Wii scene.

I'm pretty sure updating to 9.5 won't even help me in the long run anyway, but meh.

thorasgar · Jun 2, 2015

Awesomeaustin316 said:
I'll get into that when my gateway gets here Monday. Doesn't sound to difficult.

Godson777 said:
Sorry, was on mobile when I wrote my previous message, and this current one.

Basically, my cousin has a 9.7 SysNAND N3DS. (So he's screwed, the poor thing.) And my emuNAND, if I recall correctly, is 9.4. And thus, my system won't let me even use the majority of online features, eShop isn't too much of a problem for me. But prevents me from updating my game, and get DLC for some of my legit games. Of course I could always .CIA for updates and DLC but that'll require quite a bit of searching which I'm not up for unless it's my last resort.

And because 9.7 exists, I can't update my emuNAND using system update, and I haven't been around the 3DS scene for a while. So I wasn't sure if there was a way to update "offline", like they used to in the Wii scene.

I'm pretty sure updating to 9.5 won't even help me in the long run anyway, but meh.

3DNUS is what you are looking for for updating to 9.5. I think the main thread is in the home brew sub. If you are on 9.4 emunand 9.5 isn't going to get you much if anything at all. Check out the eshop spoofing thread if you want updates and DLC or just download the cia files which I find much easier.

Typhin · Jun 2, 2015

Godson777 said:
Sorry, was on mobile when I wrote my previous message, and this current one.

Basically, my cousin has a 9.7 SysNAND N3DS. (So he's screwed, the poor thing.) And my emuNAND, if I recall correctly, is 9.4. And thus, my system won't let me even use the majority of online features, eShop isn't too much of a problem for me. But prevents me from updating my game, and get DLC for some of my legit games. Of course I could always .CIA for updates and DLC but that'll require quite a bit of searching which I'm not up for unless it's my last resort.

And because 9.7 exists, I can't update my emuNAND using system update, and I haven't been around the 3DS scene for a while. So I wasn't sure if there was a way to update "offline", like they used to in the Wii scene.

I'm pretty sure updating to 9.5 won't even help me in the long run anyway, but meh.

If your system is an Old 3DS, you can use System Update to get to 9.7. The Gateway Launcher supports the latest emuNand for Old 3DS. New 3DS is restricted to 9.5 for now, and will require using 3DNUS to get the update files to get to 9.5. That won't let you access the eShop, but you could use something like Pasta or rxTools, I believe. I think there are also ways to spoof your version to access the eShop. However, I think grabbing the update CIA files and installing them to update games is the easiest way to go on a New 3DS.

haipro2001 · Jun 2, 2015

Can I use gateway on new 3ds without cubic ninja or zelda yet?
and do save games still get lost if the 3ds freeze on exit?

DJPlace · Jun 2, 2015

trying to figure out how to play DS games on my gateway with the blue card. is there some CIA file i can use with the red card or no?

Typhin · Jun 2, 2015

haipro2001 said:
Can I use gateway on new 3ds without cubic ninja or zelda yet?
and do save games still get lost if the 3ds freeze on exit?

You still need one of the two games for the initial setup, but once you are able to reach the Launcher, you can install a downgraded version of System Settings to enable the NVRAM Profile / DS Profile exploit, removing the need for the games.

If the DS freezes or loses power, you can try booting the game again. If you select the same game that was last selected, the red card will skip the "load save from file" step. Then you can start the game and immediately exit, and if everything went well, preserve your progress. It doesn't always work, but it's saved me a couple times.

DJPlace said:
trying to figure out how to play DS games on my gateway with the blue card. is there some CIA file i can use with the red card or no?

The Blue Card will only work on sysNand, and it might have been blocked depending on your system's firmware. If the Blue Card does not work, use the Red Card to install bluecardfix.cia to your sysNand, and you can use the Blue Card again. If you installed mset.cia, the process is exactly the same.

DJPlace · Jun 2, 2015

i'm on 4.5 OFW if that helps.

Typhin · Jun 2, 2015

DJPlace said:
i'm on 4.5 OFW if that helps.

I don't remember which System Version blocked the Blue Card. Try booting it in sysNand. If it works, then there's nothing you need to do, other than load .nds files onto the SD card and enjoy. If it doesn't work, then install bluecardfix.cia to sysNand to unblock it. Just remember to run GW_INSTALLER.nds after you're done playing DS games to reinstall the NVRAM Profile, in case it got cleared. (Some people have reported that their profile "sticks".)

haipro2001 · Jun 2, 2015

What is EmuNand and why do i need it?
and is the save bug fixed in 3.2.1? Do i need to run the game and then exit anymore?

justln · Jun 2, 2015

I have a Gateway, an unexploited 9.2 NN3DS, a Sky3DS to be used as Cubic Ninja on the way. What's the best way to make full use of these 3?

Put Cubic Ninja on Sky3DS, launch exploit, install Emunand/MSET and then play using Gateway? Install games with cia files?

arcangelnew · Jun 2, 2015

After a lot of problems I was able to change my emunand region from US to EUR, now is on 4.5 EUR, installed legit EUR cias without problem, launched rxtools 2.4 it shows in green that it detected the emunand and the slotkey, booted emunand rxtools mode, it shows as RX-E bla bla bla, launched fw update, but when the bar reachs like 5/5 or 90% it shows a message about an error and reboots, launched emunand again with rxtools, got some new features on it like the theme selector, but my legit cias that require 9.* fw doesnt work, also the FW keeps on 4.5, any help would be appreciated.

Edit: Im able to access the eshop too downloaded smashbros update without problem, but app still not launching. fw still on 4.5

Typhin · Jun 2, 2015

haipro2001 said:
What is EmuNand and why do i need it?
and is the save bug fixed in 3.2.1? Do i need to run the game and then exit anymore?

emuNand is a copy of your NAND memory stored on the SD card. This allows you to keep your sysNand on an exploitable version, so you can update emuNand to a later version. It also allows you to safely install CIA files without worrying about damaging your system's ability to boot.

I'm not sure which "save bug" you're referring to. I remember reading about one that was in a very old version, one of the lower 2.x ones, but I don't remember the details. You still must select Close Software to write the save to the SD card, it's part of how the hardware is set up. That part won't change. When I said "run the game and exit", it was for the situation where you were prevented from closing the software normally. The idea is that you start the game again as quickly as possible (to increase the chances the red card will recognize that it still has the save in memory) and then exit using Close Software to write the save to the SD card. I have had Gateway freeze during that write once, which corrupted the save file, but it has only happened once and I don't know what caused it.

Crumb · Jun 2, 2015

Just a random question, I have a o3ds on 4.5, can I somehow update it with sysupdate and leave several .cia's out so I can keep the mset glitch on 9.0 ?

DJPlace · Jun 2, 2015

can i go on miiverse on 9.7 gateway nand firmware or do i have to update to the latest firmware?

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