do you like mario, the character?

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i just finished mario galaxy. and i enjoyed the game, after watching some cutscenes on the game i realized and thought, i hate mario...

plataformers is one of my favorite genre, and mario got plenty of good games, but the character just doesn't seem good...
when he speaks, i always make this face the really bad english.. i can't stand it...
his body is really weird... as well his hands size...his face.... i don't like neither the design and shape etc...
nintendo of course is still stuck in the 90s (did anyone noticed they always show a nes or other very old console on their videos?)

what are you thoughts about the mario\luigi characters? do you like it? do you think nintendo would be better with a new mascot?
 

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I've always loved Nintendo. Pokemon Yellow was the first "real" videogame I ever really played, followed by Ocarina of Time on my buddy's N64, and I was a Star Fox fan long before I ever realized I was a furry (i.e.: my being a fan was based solely on my liking of the game itself :P ). That being said, no, I've never liked Mario much. I've never had much love for his games or his character in general, though I do play some Mario64 (DS version or regular, depends on if I have my PSP or my DS with me) now and then. I won't deny he's mega-popular, and props for the Big N's ability to keep him going unlike other characters from his era *couch*Sonic*cough*. And yeah, they seem to like showing old NES or SNES systems in paticular, almost like, "Hey, remember these things? We made them, remember how great they are? We're Nintendo...P-please don't put us in the garage next to your Ouya and CD-i consoles :( ." But do I think they need a new mascot? No. Like it or not, Mario is Nintendo's symbol and cash cow. Ditching him at this point would be probably their worst decision of all time (and they make enough of those already). Not to mention the Nintendo fanbase would probably be thrown into chaos and civil war over the replacement :P
 
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I personally like Luigi More, Paper Mario TTYD, Luigi's Mansion, and Mario and Luigi: Dream team is a pretty big reason why, but in the Rpg genre mario is pretty cool. You can say i like RPG Mario more than Mario the platformer if it came down to it.
 
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I've always loved Nintendo. Pokemon Yellow was the first "real" videogame I ever really played, followed by Ocarina of Time on my buddy's N64, and I was a Star Fox fan long before I ever realized I was a furry (i.e.: my being a fan was based solely on my liking of the game itself :P ). That being said, no, I've never liked Mario much. I've never had much love for his games or his character in general, though I do play some Mario64 (DS version or regular, depends on if I have my PSP or my DS with me) now and then. I won't deny he's mega-popular, and props for the Big N's ability to keep him going unlike other characters from his era *couch*Sonic*cough*. And yeah, they seem to like showing old NES or SNES systems in paticular, almost like, "Hey, remember these things? We made them, remember how great they are? We're Nintendo...P-please don't put us in the garage next to your Ouya and CD-i consoles :( ." But do I think they need a new mascot? No. Like it or not, Mario is Nintendo's symbol and cash cow. Ditching him at this point would be probably their worst decision of all time (and they make enough of those already). Not to mention the Nintendo fanbase would probably be thrown into chaos and civil war over the replacement :P
I personally like Luigi More, Paper Mario TTYD, Luigi's Mansion, and Mario and Luigi:Dream team is a pretty big reason why, but in the Rpg genre mario is pretty cool. You can say i like RPG Mario more than Mario the platformer if it came down to it.


i think i was not clear.. i am talking about the character itself.. not the games..
you can like a character, but don't like the games, or vice versa, i wanted to talk about the character, the "guy" not the games


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i kinda liked the old mario. the old designs... but at some point they changed it... i don't know what exactly, i think its the body size.. or the weird face.. i really don't like to see it...
i loved wario... sadly they don't make wario land games anymore... or didnt made a wario land in 3d.. (there was one at "2.5D" and i am not really a fan of 2.5D games)
but the wario character, is super cool
 

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i think i was not clear.. i am talking about the character itself.. not the games..
you can like a character, but don't like the games, or vice versa, i wanted to talk about the character, the "guy" not the games


to add something to topic:
i kinda liked the old mario. the old designs... but at some point they changed it... i don't know what exactly, i think its the body size.. or the weird face.. i really don't like to see it...
i loved wario... sadly they don't make wario land games anymore... or didnt made a wario land in 3d.. (there was one at "2.5D" and i am not really a fan of 2.5D games)
but the wario character, is super cool

I guess I should clarify. I meant that I have never gotten much enjoyment out of any aspect of Mario. Be it his games or character design. And yeah, they have changed it up a bit/lot. Like Sonic, he's gotten less pudgy over the years, among other things :P . That and the general art style over at the Big N for most Mario games and promotional material over the last several years seems to lean almost toward a style reminiscent of older Pixar CG movies, with an almost Disney spin thrown in (Big Hero 6 is one of their recent CG movies created outside of Pixar, done with their Hyperion rendering pipeline).
 

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i think i was not clear.. i am talking about the character itself.. not the games..
you can like a character, but don't like the games, or vice versa, i wanted to talk about the character, the "guy" not the games

I dont know if that was directed at me as well, but those games that i mentioned are the reason why i like mario but this mario is the RPG mario(since technically its still mario but for me he's different here than his normal games), Same for luigi. and the design hasn't really changed but more of the art style itself.
 

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I think Mario has so much depth as the general stickman, but it would be insulting to put a stickman or a blob into a game (someone tell sakurai), so they just gave the stickman a name and some very stereotypical figure/character with no real self at all.
There is nothing to like or to hate there, Mario is... hollow... Just your average stickman starring some nice games....
 

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I dont know if that was directed at me as well, but those games that i mentioned are the reason why i like mario but this mario is the RPG mario(since technically its still mario but for me he's different here than his normal games), Same for luigi. and the design hasn't really changed but more of the art style itself.

where have you been in the last 34 years? Mario has gone through a lot of changes since 1981 when he first appeared as a blue and white sprite in the arcade game donkey kong
super-mario-evolution.jpg
 

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