Hacking [How-to] Spoof firmware (to access eShop and more) on New 3DS and Old 3DS

cearp · Apr 27, 2015

Aliahan said:
Ok, as for precedent, I found a post by Apache Thunder on *that* forum in which he successfully updated a sysNAND to 9.2, but it wasn't as straightforward as just installing .CIAs, which bricked him initially. It involved injecting firm0/firm1.bins from a working 9.2 using rxTools and flashing the modified emuNAND to sysNAND. I'll try PMing him later and see if he wouldn't mind posting a little guide about his success.

well, yes, gw does weird things to the core fw, so when you try to update it it does not work.
maybe using ninjhax + fbi would be ok since it is not using gw.

Oishikatta · Apr 27, 2015

cearp said:
well, yes, gw does weird things to the core fw, so when you try to update it it does not work.
maybe using ninjhax + fbi would be ok since it is not using gw.

it still does not call AM::InstallNativeFirm

cearp · Apr 27, 2015

Oishikatta said:
it still does not call AM::InstallNativeFirm

so it's not gw's fault? as in, they didn't break something? ok

motezazer · Apr 27, 2015

cearp said:
so it's not gw's fault? as in, they didn't break something? ok

GW blocks any attempts to install NATIVE_FIRM when in sysNAND.

gamesquest1 · Apr 27, 2015

guess that was an attempt at blocking accidental sysnand updates

cearp · Apr 27, 2015

motezazer said:
GW blocks any attempts to install NATIVE_FIRM when in sysNAND.

ok, so ninjhax also blocks that?

Oishikatta · Apr 27, 2015

cearp said:
so it's not gw's fault? as in, they didn't break something? ok

Gateway blocks it, but using a cia installer like FBI simply doesn't call it at all. The result will be the same: brick.

cearp · Apr 27, 2015

Oishikatta said:
Gateway blocks it, but using a cia installer like FBI simply doesn't call it at all. The result will be the same: brick.

i thought that people got more permissions using ninjhax now, that still does not help?
(this does not affect me i am just curious)

motezazer · Apr 27, 2015

cearp said:
ok, so ninjhax also blocks that?

No, but you must call the command yourself, and FBI don't.
So you must modify FBI so, when you press let's say SELECT, it updates NATIVE_FIRM.

Oishikatta · Apr 27, 2015

cearp said:
i thought that people got more permissions using ninjhax now, that still does not help?
(this does not affect me i am just curious)

There is an app intended for that, but I can't comment as to the stability.

https://github.com/profi200/sysUpdater

motezazer · Apr 27, 2015

Oishikatta said:
There is an app intended for that, but I can't comment as to the stability.

https://github.com/profi200/sysUpdater

The CIA version is stable.
There is no 3DSX version yet.

Zidapi · Apr 27, 2015

Aliahan said:
Ok, as for precedent, I found a post by Apache Thunder on *that* forum in which he successfully updated a sysNAND to 9.2, but it wasn't as straightforward as just installing .CIAs, which bricked him initially. It involved injecting firm0/firm1.bins from a working 9.2 using rxTools and flashing the modified emuNAND to sysNAND. I'll try PMing him later and see if he wouldn't mind posting a little guide about his success.

That was a while ago now. Lots has changed in the short amount of time since he did that.

I don't know enough about the process to comment further, but Apache Thunder will be up to date with it.

Edit: This is part of the new method I was thinking of.

Oishikatta said:
There is an app intended for that, but I can't comment as to the stability.

https://github.com/profi200/sysUpdater

Trice · Apr 27, 2015

Zidapi said:
No, but they could track someone down if they were stupid enough to make posts on a public forum that indicated they were about to pirate and supply hundreds of thousands of people with illicit copies their game.

But so long as that person doesn't use the same username on Instagram or Facebook where they post content that showed what they looked like or where they lived.

Thankfully though, said person can't actually create a .cia from a Xenoblade download (due to the new encryption I believe).

Of course

I'm not really interested in making it any easier for people to play the game without giving something back to the developers. If someone with the means to install a cia version of the game wants to play it, they can now easily buy it on the eShop thanks to the firmware spoof and install it on their emuNAND without any problems, just as I did. It takes a while to download and install it, but that shouldn't be much of a problem.

motezazer: Do you think it would be possible to spoof not only the firmware version but also the type of hardware when accessing the eShop? I'm speaking of the flag or whatever it is that informs the eShop if you're accessing it through a New 3DS or an old one and prevents access to certain games like Xenoblade Chronicles 3D accordingly. Or is that something that Nintendo stores on the servers when you do a transfer to a New 3DS or link an NNID to the system?

I'm asking because I have 3DS systems from multiple regions to buy games from the different eShops, but only one New 3DS from Europe, so I'm currently limited to buy New 3DS exclusive games from the European eShop. Of course this isn't really a problem right now as there is only one New 3DS exclusive game available worldwide, but this will probably change at some point in the future.

Kazuma77 · Apr 27, 2015

Is it possible to host the code loader page locally? I've tried before with XAMPP, but it didn't work. If not, oh well, it's only needed for the old 3DS.

ItsMetaKnight · Apr 27, 2015

Sorry I wish I had the time to read all the 650 posts in this thread, but maybe someone knows the answer to my question.

Is it possible to do a system transfer from a 9.5.0-22 firmware O3DS to an O3DS with firmware 9.2 that uses the spoof thing?

motezazer · Apr 27, 2015

ItsMetaKnight said:
Sorry I wish I had the time to read all the 650 posts in this thread, but maybe someone knows the answer to my question.

Is it possible to do a system transfer from a 9.5.0-22 firmware O3DS to an O3DS with firmware 9.2 that uses the spoof thing?

No. Both need to be <=9.2. (or 9.7, of course)

SomeGamer · Apr 27, 2015

ItsMetaKnight said:
Sorry I wish I had the time to read all the 650 posts in this thread, but maybe someone knows the answer to my question.

Is it possible to do a system transfer from a 9.5.0-22 firmware O3DS to an O3DS with firmware 9.2 that uses the spoof thing?

Sorry, no. The transfer protocol changed with 9.6. And you can't force 9.5 not to update.

ItsMetaKnight · Apr 27, 2015

Thank you very much.

motezazer · Apr 27, 2015

Added a reminder on the OP.

Xenon Hacks · Apr 27, 2015

I guess this is sort of good news

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