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tired of practicing human proportion, take this random mountainscape instead
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Now I'm not even closely an artist and I've never drawn anything decent in my life but I must tell you one thing you're obviously doing wrong. See, I go to school with a guy who is autistic and he always draws these shitty anime drawings with big eyes and shit. He can't draw good even if you held a gun to his sonic plushies head. I think that's the biggest problem for you: you're trying a type of art that is too complex for you as of right now. You really need to get into the core basics of drawing and repeat them until you perfect the art of a 3 dimensional square with shadows. Don't be afraid of learning, nobody is born with talent.
 

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Now I'm not even closely an artist and I've never drawn anything decent in my life but I must tell you one thing you're obviously doing wrong. See, I go to school with a guy who is autistic and he always draws these shitty anime drawings with big eyes and shit. He can't draw good even if you held a gun to his sonic plushies head. I think that's the biggest problem for you: you're trying a type of art that is too complex for you as of right now. You really need to get into the core basics of drawing and repeat them until you perfect the art of a 3 dimensional square with shadows. Don't be afraid of learning, nobody is born with talent.

Not sure what you mean by that. I *can* draw with realistic facial proportions, I just don't like to so much because realistic features aren't as fun for me to draw and I haven't practiced it.
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Also, a three dimensional square is called a cube.
 

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As an artist and professional graphic designer - your improvement is good.

However, a few tips for dramatic improvement (i've also done lectures and seminars at local colleges and universities). If you're drawing anime/manga and want to go in that direction - learn how to go in a different direction. Draw portraits of real people, it's a tested and proven way of understanding the face in a way that you can make it your own.

At the moment, the faces of all of the characters you draw are the same or very similar. This is a major condition and problem within the community of artists of anime and manga. They change the bodies and hair and clothes but the faces are always the same because they think 'that'll do'. Most artists use a pointy nose, a line for the mouth and a couple of big eyes and think it looks great because that's the general formula for manga. However, the greatest and most popular manga have a style and appeal that goes beyond.

A major factor in the popularity of manga in a way that is different from comic books is style. A mangaka's style of art is a big picture into their feelings and expression. Readers enjoy manga more when there is a certain flair to the style. I got out of manga because for americans and europeans - there's no money to be made at all. You have to literally move to japan to get published. But for a hobby, there are many artists on deviantart who have art styles unique enough to be published.

And the biggest rule of all of art. HAVING A TABLET DOES NOT MAKE YOU AUTOMATICALLY BETTER. I give some seminars and private sessions with small groups of students. The amount of them that thinks having a £1000 intuos makes them better is ridiculous. It's a great tool, but that's all it is. It's a tool to help you shape your talent, not something to put in place of it.

. I think that's the biggest problem for you: you're trying a type of art that is too complex for you as of right now.

I don't agree with this; anime is very simplistic and is basically an oversimplification of the features. You do need to understand how the face looks and works from an artistic view, if you want to make your work look good.

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This piece you posted is slightly different and i'd say a 'breakthrough'. The sketchy style tells us something else about your potential style, one picture can't tell us enough though.

Experimentation is good, it helps you find things you never thought of doing.
 

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i mess with a ton of different styles. some of them are variations in things like line thickness, but i have a ton of weird stuff that i don't post in my sketchbook

and don't think I'm ignoring your other advice or anything. I'm going through some of Loomis' stuff now, and I know full well that having a tablet doesn't instantly make me a better artist. Though having stuff like vector and undo makes it a lot easier to make corrections and it's really nice
 

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in any case it's been a while since i posted anything here, so
this girl is like my goto for seeing my improvement since she was my first real attempt at drawing a figure ages ago
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this crow took like 5 minutes, i drew it for my sister
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some other crow
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this was a super rushed easter drawing. not intended to be good or anything, because i cba to finish it
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also, i expanded on that reaper one and it's my desktop background now http://i.imgur.com/0bNpAt5.jpg
 

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i suggest study some anatomy. you aren't gonna understand anything about the body drawing cartoons. even if cartoons is your end goal, you need a good anatomy base to start from.
 

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Somewhat related, I'm taking some courses to become x-ray technologist. Just from repeatedly observing the structure of the skeleton and different muscle groups I can more easily draw human figures in various poses. I sort of imagine how their bones would be oriented before trying to draw anything. Not exactly a formal artist education, but still helpful. Of course, I don't usually draw realistic stuff, but it helps me to imagine the internal structure of whatever it is I'm drawing, in three dimensions, even if it's a cartoon style drawing. 2 cents.
 

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yeah, I've been looking at some of the main bones and muscle groups and stuff recently, but it's kind of hard to memorize all of it at once. I've mostly got legs down though i think (not shown in any of those)
 

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