Hacking Official – Rebug 4.65.2 – Cobra 7.03 – Toolbox 2.02.02

Pedeadstrian · Jan 25, 2015

Cyan said:
I didn't follow PS3 scene for more than a year, and I'm still on OFW3.41
it seems there's only one CFW with a setting to enable/disable Cobra, instead of two different firmwares. That's easier to decide which one to install

I still don't understand all the needed steps and purpose (like QAFlags, EID0, etc.)
I guess I can install rebug directly from 3.41, I don't need to install 3.55 first?
is QA auto-enabled or need to be done after install?
What about my current homebrew? (multiMAN need to be uninstalled fully before update? I still have v2.0)

I saw games needed patches to run on 3.41/3.55, and patches for 4.21+
Games above 4.21 still require patches, even if the CFW is 4.65?
What about my currently patched games? I'll probably need to unpatch them or does rebug work with 3.x patched games?

cobra/webMAN/PS2 support seems complicated.

You can install directly from 3.41. Don't ask about that, apparently people get really heated over it.
You don't need to enable QA, but it's recommended.
You don't need to uninstall multiMAN first, but you're gonna end up doing it eventually since you're far behind.

I still haven't upgraded from their previous release, but it was 4.45 (or whatever) and patches were necessary, so I'm assuming you'll still need them.
Not sure if your currently patched games will work or not, but they'll probably work with another patch (or none at all). I doubt you'll have to unpatch, but I'm no expert in the field.

Cyan · Jan 25, 2015

thank you for confirmations

Deleted User · Jan 25, 2015

Cyan said:
I didn't follow PS3 scene for more than a year, and I'm still on OFW3.41
it seems there's only one CFW with a setting to enable/disable Cobra, instead of two different firmwares. That's easier to decide which one to install

I still don't understand all the needed steps and purpose (like QAFlags, EID0, etc.)
I guess I can install rebug directly from 3.41, I don't need to install 3.55 first?
is QA auto-enabled or need to be done after install?
What about my current homebrew? (multiMAN need to be uninstalled fully before update? I still have v2.0)

I saw games needed patches to run on 3.41/3.55, and patches for 4.21+
Games above 4.21 still require patches, even if the CFW is 4.65?
What about my currently patched games? I'll probably need to unpatch them or does rebug work with 3.x patched games?

cobra/webMAN/PS2 support seems complicated.

EID0 is a root key (needed if you were switchin CEX/DEX outside of Rebug or you wish to decrypt your HDD - effectively a per-console root key) [not needed for everyday use]
QA Flag basically allows you to move up and down firmware versions
QA needs to be enabled from Rebug Toolbox
Leave MM as is - download the newer version and install on top. May have to reinstall a 2nd time to enable the BD Emulation (no need if you use cobra)
If you're running 4.65 - you won't need to patch anything. Not sure there are many games with updates that need 4.66 to run yet.

Cobra support is pretty basic. IT allows you to run PSX/PS2/PS3/PSP ISO's (single files instead of JB format) - can also be streamed via network share. Webman just works like a lite version of multiman. Lots of details but that's a quick run-down.

Cyan · Jan 25, 2015

thanks.
so I don't need to bother with EID0 (I don't plan to decrypt, or switch firmwares).

I thought 4.21+ games needed to be patched on 4.60+ too
4.65 won't require it? that's good. I guess I'll just try and see if it works or not.

I hope all saves will still work.
reinstalling games or gamedata is not an issue. I'll be sure to backup everything useful first.

Deleted User · Jan 26, 2015

You don't really need to dump EIDO, but it's recommended. It's also something you can do via the Rebug Toolbox.

Saves and everything should work fine if you just upgrade. (aka don't create new profiles or anything)

Basically games have a set FW level in their EBOOT.BIN. If your FW is lower than the required by the EBOOT - it has to patched/resign to match your FW level. However since you are using 4.65 - you have the ability to play anything up to a 4.65 FW level without needing to patch. Only thing requiring patches would be updates/games that use 4.66 (which I assume there are very few)

Backup saves and memory cards are probably the most important things.

CheeseCake · Jan 28, 2015

Cyan said:
I didn't follow PS3 scene for more than a year, and I'm still on OFW3.41
it seems there's only one CFW with a setting to enable/disable Cobra, instead of two different firmwares. That's easier to decide which one to install
There's actually two CFWs with Cobra now. Rebug and Habib and they both have settings in their Toolbox homebrew to turn on/off Cobra Mode. Get Rebug if possible, you will switch over to another eventually when the CFW ver. goes way past 4.65 (I remember Rebug 4.53 and Rogero 4.55)

I still don't understand all the needed steps and purpose (like QAFlags, EID0, etc.)
I guess I can install rebug directly from 3.41, I don't need to install 3.55 first?
is QA auto-enabled or need to be done after install?
What about my current homebrew? (multiMAN need to be uninstalled fully before update? I still have v2.0)
I recommend a 3.55 CFW like Rebug 3.55/Kmeaw 3.55 and QA flag with Toggle QA/Rebug Toolbox before updating higher firmwares. This is not required but safety is best.
You probably will have to replace the Multiman version anyways. If you're sorta reluctant about losing all your PS3 covers, fear not as there are pkg files with the covers to install them, no Internet required.

I saw games needed patches to run on 3.41/3.55, and patches for 4.21+
Games above 4.21 still require patches, even if the CFW is 4.65?
What about my currently patched games? I'll probably need to unpatch them or does rebug work with 3.x patched games?
Those are EBOOT fixes. This is to allow the games to run at lower firmwares than their required official ones. (I.e.New game requires newest firmware. You can use EBOOT fix to play it on lower firmwares without getting strange errors like black screen after loading the mounted game, for example.)
Yep, once you get into the new firmware zone. You need the original Eboots to "unpatch" them so they'll work on higher CFW. If you decide to go on lower than latest, you will need 4.21+/4.XX Eboot patches for that lower CFW.
So far on REBUG 4.65.2, no problems playing new 4.66 required games somehow. Probably because I'm using MultiMan 4.66.10 on CFW 4.65 (You can do this, use Multiman of slightly higher version than your CFW)

cobra/webMAN/PS2 support seems complicated.
Webman is literally Multiman except it uses PS3 browser as a GUI so you can load games, FTP, do settings, etc from XMB.
Cobra is actually a external USB for PSX/PS2/PSP,etc ISO support sold by Team Cobra. They're also the manufacturers of the recent ODEs.
Cobra CFW is pretty much regular CFW with all platform ISO support. You can play it directly with a PS2ISO instead of having to convert it to PS2Classics format.
Reason Cobra CFW has come now is because the main dev of Cobra USB decided to release the entire code of Cobra USB onto open source so anybody could integrate Cobra into CFW.

Cyan · Jan 28, 2015

Thank you for taking the time to answer all this

I'm wondering if I should make a NOR backup before updating too (I think I can do it from multiMAN, but need to unhide first bytes before doing it, and hide them them again), but I have no mean to restore it anyway. I might even break things instead.

So, Kmeaw or rebug3.55 first to enable QA flag (with button combo)
If I install rebug3.55, the latest toolbox version will work fine or I need an old one specifically for 3.55?

CheeseCake · Jan 29, 2015

I would like to clarify something about the Eboot Fix. You only need to use them when your CFW is lower than the required firmware.
Say you're trying to play a 4.65 required game on a 4.46 CFW. You need a Eboot fix for this since you're lower.
If you're on a firmware higher than the required like 4.65 CFW playing a 4.41 required game. No Eboot Fix needed

Basically, you only need it for the game if your CFW is under the required FW threshold.

Edit: Yep Install Rebug or Kmeaw 3.55 first.
If you go Kmeaw route, install Toggle QA pkg through Install Package Files to do the QA flag. Run it and you should get some beeps then your PS3 will reboot. You have to do button combo on Network Settings to bring out Debug Settings, which is an indicator of QA flag.

If you go Rebug route, ~~you need the Rebug Toolbox for Rebug 3.55.~~ I would say try Toggle QA on this too since there was no Toolbox back then. Install that and enable QA flag ~~somewhere after running the Toolbox then reboot your PS3 to save the changes.(Full Cycle is a normal reboot)~~
~~You don't have to do button combo here. Just go to Settings and you'll already see Debug Settings out under Network.~~ You probably still have to do the button combo, not sure though. Rebug Toolbox's native support in later CFWs make QA flag on automatically which led me to this assumption.

After all this is done, you can update to higher firmwares, don't ever try to Update to a Lower Firmware. You have to software downgrade with Rogero Downgrader or Rebug's 999 Downgrader back to 3.55 then update.
3.55-->4.65 is okay.
4.65 back to 4.55 is NO. You have to 4.65-->3.55-->4.55. This is to ensure you don't somehow obtain a semi-brick after updating.

I recommend Rebug 4.65.2 and Multiman 4.66.10(Current latest version). Rebug is the safest of all the CFWs.

Edit 2: http://rebug.me/rebug-3-41-2-rebug-3-55-1/
Just grab the 3.55.2 CFW, ignore everything else as they get replaced later
http://rebug.me/toggle-qa/
Install and Run it.

Finally newest Rebug firmware
http://rebug.me/official-rebug-4-65-2-cobra-7-02-toolbox-2-02-02-nov-2014/

Alot has changed from their first firmwares. There is an actual Toolbox which lets you do alot. They also include Webman with the Rebug package now.
There is a seperate homebrew called Webman MOD, which imo is better and it is required for the PS2 wireless sync bug fix.
The PS2 sync bug has been in FW because Sony screwed something up and ignored, left it in their later firmwares. Rebug has fixed this so you can play PS2 games without USB attached.

I can confirm it works for me. I might write a guide on this later.

Deleted User · Jan 29, 2015

CheeseCake said:
After all this is done, you can update to higher firmwares, don't ever try to Update to a Lower Firmware. You have to software downgrade with Rogero Downgrader or Rebug's 999 Downgrader back to 3.55 then update.
3.55-->4.65 is okay.
4.65 back to 4.55 is NO. You have to 4.65-->3.55-->4.55. This is to ensure you don't somehow obtain a semi-brick after updating.

Actually this is why you QA flag. So you can move between firmwares at will. In the few years I've been from 4.46->4.50->4.55->4.46->4.65->4.46->4.66

Basically QA Flag guarantees the system doesn't soft-brick due to ROS hash mismatches. If you weren't QA flagged and attempted to go down to say 3.55OFW, you'd see that the SYSCON hashes wouldn't match and the system would soft-brick on bootup.

Enabling QA flag basically removes the need to use Downgrader PUPS.

shakirmoledina · Jan 29, 2015

u might need to rebuild database after updating like i had to do when updating to this specific firmware.

FC4 was mentioned data corruption or disc dirty while it was being played from external. I had to reinstall data for it to work.

CheeseCake · Jan 29, 2015

gunner007 said:
Actually this is why you QA flag. So you can move between firmwares at will. In the few years I've been from 4.46->4.50->4.55->4.46->4.65->4.46->4.66

Basically QA Flag guarantees the system doesn't soft-brick due to ROS hash mismatches. If you weren't QA flagged and attempted to go down to say 3.55OFW, you'd see that the SYSCON hashes wouldn't match and the system would soft-brick on bootup.

Enabling QA flag basically removes the need to use Downgrader PUPS.

I have a Question, Toggle QA is only compatible on REBUG and Habib currently and other 4.46 CFWs and under, right?
I tried to redo my QA flag on Rogero 4.55 once, didn't work so Downgraded to reflag.

Deleted User · Jan 29, 2015

Acutally it worked on a couple firmwares (mainly the old 3.55 rebug/Kmeaw/etc...) Rebug just made it super-simple by making it part of their toolbox. Before you had to install a package and hit a series of button presses to enable it.

It used to be that QA could only be done under 3.55 for a long time. Though now I think Habib toolbox can do it under any 4.xx firmwares.
http://psx-scene.com/forums/content/qa-flag-support-4-xx-cfw-habib-toolbox-update-v1-02-01-4731/

Though now I think you can also enable it through the new 4.65.2 rebug. Though Habib's toolbox is fairly new 10/2014.

CheeseCake · Jan 30, 2015

So basically REBUG and Habib has QA flag on new firmwares...Interesting....So you still have to use Downgrader if you want to go to a lower firmware a 2nd time.

I.e. I updated to lower firmware (4.65-->4.XX) that is another standard CFW(that's not REBUG) and I lose the QA flag if it's not supported on that FW so if I want to downgrade even lower for some reason. I have to actually go back to 3.55

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