Hacking Can Nintendo patch Sky3DS/QQ3DS/whatever

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No one knows if Nintendo will release next update 9.5 or other versions to block those cards, but even gateway can also be blocked by nintendo update. Personally think sky is not bad choice for 9.4 , at least now.


AFter seeing how the majority of members on here cry about the update blocking so and so card, might as well join them. YES IT WILL BE BLOCKED.
 
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Sky3DS is the only working 3DS cart on the latest firmware.
Why people are actually rooting for the card to get 'blocked' is the stupidest thing I have ever seen on these boards. It's a working device that everybody could freely use if they
werent blinded by their own ridiculous loyalty to a company that is providing very little at this time. Magic words: "SOON".

Meanwhile, if people were smart, they would immediately buy up as many of these (Sky3ds) devices as possible because it is working NOW.
I cant speak for the next update. I wont pretend to be a psychic here.
But, I do know that my device has been working since the last 3 updates. No speculating here, the thing just works and continues to do so.

As for this actual topic:

ALL CARTS CAN BE "BLOCKED" AT ANYTIME BY NINTENDO.

.....yes, that even means Gateway. This is not 2012...Nintendo's people have gotten much smarter than people give them credit for.

Do You really truly believe that out of all the departments dedicated to eradicating this type of thing, that not one single employee at Nintendo doesn't already own all of the Gateway devices with the sole intention of reverse engineering and understanding how the product works? Think about this carefully. Don't delude yourselves.
Nintendo is not all fun and games. Nintendo is very much a business first.

With that in mind, grab the working product and enjoy!
At least when you do this, you have the option of having an already working now product.
And, you can stay at the working firmware.
 

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Sky3DS is the only working 3DS cart on the latest firmware.
Why people are actually rooting for the card to get 'blocked' is the stupidest thing I have ever seen on these boards. It's a working device that everybody could freely use if they
werent blinded by their own ridiculous loyalty to a company that is providing very little at this time. Magic words: "SOON".

Meanwhile, if people were smart, they would immediately buy up as many of these (Sky3ds) devices as possible because it is working NOW.
I cant speak for the next update. I wont pretend to be a psychic here.
But, I do know that my device has been working since the last 3 updates. No speculating here, the thing just works and continues to do so.


I could not agree with you more. I remember when SKY3DS was first announced and people were immediately crying foul. It is hard to believe that a profiting company has a strong stranglehold on a scene at all.. but people will sing the praises of Gateway when, at the moment, SKY3DS is the better overall card.
 
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Actually for the money you pay to buy a Sky3DS you can buy a used 3DS and enjoy a superior product. Sky3DS will get blocked way sooner than GW will, and thats a horse you can bet on for sure!
Im not gonna write why the company behind sky3ds are scumbags again but I am gonna tell you this, it would be wiser to buy lets say 3-4 retail games than paying for something that only serves for piracy and has no means to upgrade what so ever!
At least youll be able to sell those games in the future and actually support the game developers! Be smart with your money and invest in something that will actually be worth your while.

If your friend cares only about pirating the current games then a clone of Sky3DS will do just fine, and yes I meant a clone. QQ3DS is gonna be released soon if it already hasnt. It does the exact same shit as Sky3DS does and it features a DS flashcard that also works with 9.4, so If you ask me QQ3DS > Sky3DS is the way to go!
 

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Meanwhile, if people were smart, they would immediately buy up as many of these (Sky3ds) devices as possible because it is working NOW.
I cant speak for the next update. I wont pretend to be a psychic here.
But, I do know that my device has been working since the last 3 updates. No speculating here, the thing just works and continues to do so.
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well lets be honest, the sky3ds card wasn't in peoples hands until 11/12/2014 (that's American format, so 12th November) that was the first review so probably around the first point the card was in peoples hands. so at this point 9.2 was already released on 30th October, so we are left with 9.3 and 9.4......9.4 was simply a bug fix for 9.3 to fix a issue with parental controls, so 9.4 is hardly classed as a real update and was only released 3 days after 9.3

lets not forget the reviewers probably got their hands on a sky3DS before anyone else, so they got theirs on 12th November, 9.3 was released on 8th December, leaving a window of around 20 days for stocks to reach resellers, nintendo to buy their sky3ds card, it to get shipped to them and for them to figure out how to detect it, for their programmers to implement an effective block that isnt so easily bypassed, and for it to all be beta tested and deemed safe to push to peoples consoles.....not to mention nintendo also had ninjhax to block, and gateway declaring they also had a 9.x solution in the pipeline....a lot was going on in November, it may just be that sky3ds was the lesser concern for them, hence them focusing on blocking ninjhax, and gateway in one go

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Meanwhile, if people were smart, they would immediately buy up as many of these (Sky3ds) devices as possible because it is working NOW.
I cant speak for the next update. I wont pretend to be a psychic here.
is a bit silly, IF people where smart, they would wait and see what happens....i think 3 months is a more realistic time frame for redesigning the cart authentication process, plus with the release of spider tools and regionthree, i think we know a update is literally going to drop any day now, and updates for pokemon X/Y and ORAS to prevent people staying on 9.4 and still being able to use online with hacks.....so IF nintendo truly has been working on blocking sky3ds and co in the past couple of months, the release of that work will now be combined to pretty much cut off sky3ds users from using online services indefinitely....if sky3ds is blocked in 9.5/10.0 (or whatever they call it) and spidertools forces them to release updates for all the online games that are likely to be cheated on i.e mario kart, pokemon etc....its either update to get title updates and loose sky 3DS, or stay on 9.4 and not be able to get title updates, so loose online.....any one who was actually smart who hasn't already bought a sky3ds would just wait and see what happens as if any of this happens, sky3ds will pretty much loose its whole appeal overnight, and re-sellers will no doubt want to shift their stock asap.........so that would be the right time for 9.3/9.4 users who dont care about online to buy.

no point buying into something, that given a week or 2 will either survive, or be loosing a lot of its appeal/demand, which would greatly effect its price
 

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Why people are actually rooting for the card to get 'blocked' is the stupidest thing I have ever seen on these boards.

Nobody's rooting for anything, chill out, we're judging based on past experiences which was not long ago, where they couldn't update their card, but released a new one, and this is the main concern that people have, If they buy this card and it gets blocked, will it be updated to support new firmware ?Will it be supported at all ?Or a new card will be released with a pink button to work with the new version for another 100$.

blinded by their own ridiculous loyalty to a company that is providing very little at this time. Magic words: "SOON".

See, the same way you're judging Gateway here, based on past experiences, the only difference is that gateway might be slow, but delivers quality in the end, even at the cost of some hatred (which to be honest disappears once they release a quality update).


ALL CARTS CAN BE "BLOCKED" AT ANYTIME BY NINTENDO.

.....yes, that even means Gateway.


True, infact Gateway has already been blocked, but the team keeps releasing new emunand and is alive for almost 2 years using the same old card, unlike sky3ds, who already released a new one after one month, nobody's hating on Sky3DS, people are just not sure whether they can trust the team Sky3DS to support the card or expect a new card every update(for 100$).
 
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Alright thanks for all your input guys. Guess I gotta tell him the bad news. It looks like the QQ3DS/Sky isn't for him (at least until we get confirmation that once blocked they can release a patch to work on the latest firmware). I wish there was a way for him to downgrade his system to one where Gateway works because I love emuNAND. There's no doubt in my mind that Gateway knocks the socks off of Sky/QQ. If it was comparable with 9.4 we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
 

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Alright thanks for all your input guys. Guess I gotta tell him the bad news. It looks like the QQ3DS/Sky isn't for him (at least until we get confirmation that once blocked they can release a patch to work on the latest firmware). I wish there was a way for him to downgrade his system to one where Gateway works because I love emuNAND. There's no doubt in my mind that Gateway knocks the socks off of Sky/QQ. If it was comparable with 9.4 we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

Well, tell him to sell his unit and buy/trade another one with lower a firmware than 9.3. As it was mentioned before GW got blocked multiple times and they always came back with a working solution while Sky3DS updated their flashcard (and yes thats an entirely new flashcard) in a single month! Its no rocket science to be able to see which of these two is a superior product.
 
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I don't think Nintendo can block Sky3DS because for me the Sky3DS is like a XKey 360 or 3Key PS3, the sky3DS emulate a rom like a "real cardtrige" so when you choose a rom with the button the 3DS think you have take off and put a new card.

So for me, Nintendo can't block because Sky3DS send on the 3DS the exact file of a real rom, so it's considered like a real card, if Nintendo block the card, it will block real game
 
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I don't think Nintendo can block Sky3DS because for me the Sky3DS is like a XKey 360 or 3Key PS3, the sky3DS emulate a rom like a "real cardtrige" so when you choose a rom with the button the 3DS think you have take off and put a new card.

So for me, Nintendo can't block because Sky3DS send on the 3DS the exact file of a real rom, so it's considered like a real card, if Nintendo block the card, it will block real game
Actually the 3key was patched.
 

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Sky3DS is the only working 3DS cart on the latest firmware.
Why people are actually rooting for the card to get 'blocked' is the stupidest thing I have ever seen on these boards. It's a working device that everybody could freely use if they
werent blinded by their own ridiculous loyalty to a company that is providing very little at this time. Magic words: "SOON".

Meanwhile, if people were smart, they would immediately buy up as many of these (Sky3ds) devices as possible because it is working NOW.
I cant speak for the next update. I wont pretend to be a psychic here.
But, I do know that my device has been working since the last 3 updates. No speculating here, the thing just works and continues to do so.

As for this actual topic:

ALL CARTS CAN BE "BLOCKED" AT ANYTIME BY NINTENDO.

.....yes, that even means Gateway. This is not 2012...Nintendo's people have gotten much smarter than people give them credit for.

Do You really truly believe that out of all the departments dedicated to eradicating this type of thing, that not one single employee at Nintendo doesn't already own all of the Gateway devices with the sole intention of reverse engineering and understanding how the product works? Think about this carefully. Don't delude yourselves.
Nintendo is not all fun and games. Nintendo is very much a business first.

With that in mind, grab the working product and enjoy!
At least when you do this, you have the option of having analready working now product.
And, you can stay at the working firmware.


They justify it by saying sky3ds is for pirating..............as if I don't now what this site was about 3 yrs ago.
 

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All of this that you say, remains to be seen. And, time will tell.
But, GW complete lack of communication further confounds things. This was not helped by releasing that 'ULTRA!'
product...which most will agree at this juncture was far from "quality". And, GW of yesterday does not equal GW of today when you need to connect to the internet everytime you want to play a game. So good luck with that. Meanwhile Sky3ds customers have been playing games since November. GW customers have been busy refreshing pages on this site for info daily and hugging the proverbial promise of...."soon".
I have a GW too. I bought the thing listening to the hypetrain engineers on this site. It is still sitting in the box, unused.

In truth, by Feb 13, I wont even care if they release or not, as I have everything I want on the eshop already. People are already starting to grow bored waiting for GW. Meanwhile, GW continues to make money by simply getting you to pay for promises and waiting for them to release beta quality product. Personally, i think that they are stumped and they dont know how to admit this to the public. but, will still quietly take ur money. Good luck with all that.[/quote]
 

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All of this that you say, remains to be seen. And, time will tell.
But, GW complete lack of communication further confounds things. This was not helped by releasing that 'ULTRA!'
product...which most will agree at this juncture was far from "quality". And, GW of yesterday does not equal GW of today when you need to connect to the internet everytime you want to play a game. So good luck with that. Meanwhile Sky3ds customers have been playing games since November. GW customers have been busy refreshing pages on this site for info daily and hugging the proverbial promise of...."soon".
I have a GW too. I bought the thing listening to the hypetrain engineers on this site. It is still sitting in the box, unused.

In truth, by Feb 13, I wont even care if they release or not, as I have everything I want on the eshop already. People are already starting to grow bored waiting for GW. Meanwhile, GW continues to make money by simply getting you to pay for promises and waiting for them to release beta quality product. Personally, i think that they are stumped and they dont know how to admit this to the public. but, will still quietly take ur money. Good luck with all that.
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If sky could support homebrew on "9.3+" it would be a day one buy for me.
for now all i got is a gateway here just collecting dust because of my sysnand version, is pretty possible if gw ever supports sysnand 9.3+
homebrew will also work with it but we can't say the same with sky
 

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Can they all be blocked? yes. Can Sky be fixed to work around it? No. Not if you want online and updates. Can Gateway be fixed to work around it? Yes. You already do not update or have to update to go online or get updates. That is what emunand is for. The idiot that stated sky is the superior card must be eating crack for breakfast. I will be buying a sky as well. I have a 9.2 xl that I have been keeping updated for pokemon and other games. I have a 4.5 xl that I use for Gateway and nothing else. When my MM N3DS XL gets here, I will either use the new Gateway hack for it or it will become my updated sytem. No Gateway does not work on the N3DS yet. But I guarantee they are simply waiting for it to launch here so they can release their solution. Waiting so Nintendo can't release a new update to block it before everyone has a chance to get set up and start using a GW with the N3DS.
 

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