Hint #1: Never tell other people what terms to use - that's entirely up to them. Unless the term is officially recognized as a slur, you have no grounds to complain. You don't have the moral authority to decide what's right and wrong, the fact that a term offends you is completely irrelevant and your
"correcting" is more condescending than using the term in the first place. Putting yourself on the moral pedestal makes you seem patronizing - that's not what you want in a debate. This hint is free of charge, I'll send you the bills for any future ones, so make the best of it!
First off, I never said it offended me. Secondly, why do you not understand what I'm saying here? I'm the one offering the free hint. When you say stuff like "SJW" or " MRA" you detract from whatever it is you're saying. xwatchmanx summed it up perfectly "They've become nothing but derogatory terms to dismiss tons of individual viewpoints as all being the same, basically."
Gahars, you objected to me using the term "manipulate" because of negative connotations. I understand that, so I won't use manipulate when discussing this. For the record, to manipulate someone is to guide them, which is what's happening with the form letters campaign. It's also what's happening with the coverage of the Gamergate crowd. I used the word even though it does have negative connotations because I was using it to describe both sides. But then you lost me because it seemed like you're ok with the use of the term "SJW" here. I understand your point about fanatical people ruining good points and arguments that others make,that's why I asked for people to not use the "SJW" phrase.
Foxi4, let me break it down for you as best I can. When you use "SJW" or the aforementioned "MRA", you immediately set a tone for the conversation, and it's one that detracts from your argument. It's like having a discussion about religion and in the first sentence you use the phrase "bible-thumper". No matter how good your argument, no matter how valid it is, it becomes secondary. Because the second you use that phrase, that becomes the main arguing point. When you attack someone in a debate, that becomes the focal point. And please refrain from giving me debate advice when you do such a shit job of debating yourself.
I never put myself on a moral pedestal, your argument has more holes than FOX News. Tell me in what way I put myself on a moral pedestal? Was it when I asked someone to not use a certain phrase because it has negative connotations, and detracts from the main point? Because it seems to me that someone else in this thread asked me the same thing when it came to the word "manipulate", which isn't nearly the loaded phrase that "SJW" is. Did I respond to Gahars by telling him to not tell me what terms to use? Did I accuse him of being patronizing and putting himself on a moral pedestal? Did I get my panties in a bunch and tell him he was being condescending? I'll answer that for you, no.
Foxi4, if someone calls you a "MRA", how do you respond? You know that phrase has negative connotations, and is basically an insult. I don't know you, but I would imagine that you would be offended and on the defensive about it. You would likely respond negatively to the person who called you that, and dismiss any of their points as crap. That's how the other side sees you when you use the phrase "SJW". I'm speaking in the general "you" here, not the specific.
