First Mario Kart 8 DLC pack coming this November

grossaffe · Aug 27, 2014

Qtis said:
I'm a bit surprised it costs extra. Didn't Nintendo at some point say they won't be charging for DLC?

No.

"We would like to supply consumers with only add-on or downloadable content which they are happy to pay for as compensation for creative work. For example, some might say that it would be unbelievably profitable to provide paid add-on content for "Animal Crossing: New Leaf," but we were concerned that a game in which you enjoy yourself more by the power of money would not be suitable, and we decided to avoid such a feature after an intensive discussion with the development team. On the other hand, we are selling sets of new courses for "New Super Mario Bros. 2" by download and obtaining a very good response from those who have actually bought and played them. We see vast potential in this sort of add-on content. In short, we would like to find the type of add-on content consumers will find enjoyable in each game. We intend to basically create add-on content with which we will be able to make long-term relationships with our consumers."

Wekker · Aug 27, 2014

The plague is everywhere now. Before the DLC area, the extra content were almost a must have. Now the extra content or any content that are not completed before the release will be sold for as DLC for extra cash....

Publisher: It will be released this month!
Develober: Chief! Some content is not going to make it!
Director: Then it will be released as a PAID DLC!

grossaffe · Aug 27, 2014

Wekker said:
The plague is everywhere now. Before the DLC area, the extra content were almost a must have. Now the extra content or any content that are not completed before the release will be sold for as DLC for extra cash....

Publisher: It will be released this month!
Develober: Chief! Some content is not going to make it!
Director: Then it will be released as a PAID DLC!

except, you know, Mario Kart 8 was a full game.

Super Mario Kart (SNES)- 20 new tracks
Mario Kart 64 (N64)- 16 new tracks
Mario Kart: Double Dash! (GCN)- 16 new tracks
Mario Kart Wii (Wii)- 16 new tracks, 16 retro tracks
Mario Kart 8 (Wii U)- 16 new tracks, 16 retro tracks

MK8 kept in line with it's predecessors in introducing 16 new tracks (only one with more was the original which was a game using 2D sprites and mode-7 rather than a full 3D environment). The DLC is merely adding value to the game by doubling the number of new tracks and adding new characters at a reasonable price.

Wekker · Aug 27, 2014

grossaffe said:
except, you know, Mario Kart 8 was a full game.

Super Mario Kart (SNES)- 20 new tracks
Mario Kart 64 (N64)- 16 new tracks
Mario Kart: Double Dash! (GCN)- 16 new tracks
Mario Kart Wii (Wii)- 16 new tracks, 16 retro tracks
Mario Kart 8 (Wii U)- 16 new tracks, 16 retro tracks

MK8 kept in line with it's predecessors in introducing 16 new tracks (only one with more was the original which was a game using 2D sprites and mode-7 rather than a full 3D environment). The DLC is merely adding value to the game by doubling the number of new tracks and adding new characters at a reasonable price.

Saying it is a 'full game' is relative. It does not matter if it has only XX new tracks and XX retro tracks. If they say it is a full game than it is a full game.
Remenber that a developer defines what is a full game and what is not and how they call it. Games from blizzard like Diablo III has FREE patches, they call it "Patches". If they want to call a patch as a expansion, so it will be a expansion.

grossaffe · Aug 27, 2014

Wekker said:
Saying it is a 'full game' is relative. It does not matter if it has only XX new tracks and XX retro tracks. If they say it is a full game than it is a full game.
Remenber that a developer defines what is a full game and what is not and how they call it. Games from blizzard like Diablo III has FREE patches, they call it "Patches". If they want to call a patch as a expansion, so it will be a expansion.

Sure it's relative. And relative to every other mario kart game, it's a full game.

Dork · Aug 27, 2014

Wekker said:
The plague is everywhere now. Before the DLC area, the extra content were almost a must have. Now the extra content or any content that are not completed before the release will be sold for as DLC for extra cash....

Publisher: It will be released this month!
Develober: Chief! Some content is not going to make it!
Director: Then it will be released as a PAID DLC!

"C-COMPANIES ARE PURPOSELY HOLDING BACK CONTENT"
On-disc content is one thing, but there is nothing to suggest that this content was already finished during initial development of Mario Kart 8.

Bladexdsl · Aug 28, 2014

i think link in a mario kart game is a bit stupid also. if there was a canon storyline it's gone now but if you don't like him just don't use him plenty of other guys to choose from. i'll be trying him out to see if he gives me better stats than when i use yoshi if not than fuck him.

Gahars · Aug 28, 2014

Bladexdsl said:
i think link in a mario kart game is a bit stupid also. if there was a canon storyline

Good thing there isn't.

You really shouldn't take Zelda's "canon" seriously; Lord knows Nintendo doesn't. Besides, Link shows up in Smash Bros. and appeared in Soul Calibur (which would mean he's technically in the same universe as Star Wars and Assassins' Creed, if you think about it) and it's not like that's a problem. It's just for fun, relax.

DiscostewSM · Aug 28, 2014

Gahars said:
Good thing there isn't.

You really shouldn't take Zelda's "canon" seriously; Lord knows Nintendo doesn't. Besides, Link shows up in Smash Bros. and appeared in Soul Calibur (which would mean he's technically in the same universe as Star Wars and Assassins' Creed, if you think about it) and it's not like that's a problem. It's just for fun, relax.

Let's not forget that Mario and friends have shown up in one form or another in Zelda games.

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Talon and Ingo are kind of a stretch.

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grossaffe · Aug 28, 2014

DiscostewSM said:
Let's not forget that Mario and friends have shown up in one form or another in Zelda games.

Talon and Ingo are kind of a stretch.

And let's also not forget that this isn't Link's first foray into Mario's world, either.

Guild McCommunist · Aug 28, 2014

>people suddenly defend DLC

I hate this place.

Xabring · Aug 28, 2014

Well, I once saw somebody wrote that a kart game with link shound´t be fun....he or she should think again now (or when Link´s DLC get released anyway) Half brand new game at less than half the price of the base game is a deal you can´t deny is awesome. This should be what DLC should stand for, instead of that Joke of chashgrab that was that horse DLC, which, for some inexplicable reason, people still buy. No wonder why people are happy now. Now, if they chose to add REAL battle maps to the game, that would be wonderful.

stanleyopar2000 · Aug 28, 2014

Guild McCommunist said:
>people suddenly defend DLC

I hate this place.

I know right??
they are setting us up for non-free DLC Smash Bros Characters...this is a soak test..will our "fans" buy DLC instead of expect it free like before?

If they do that, or to pull a PlayStation all stars routine where there is more DLC shit than there is actual unlockable content...i'm out. Just. fucking out.

T Link7 · Aug 29, 2014

stanleyopar2000 said:
I know right??
they are setting us up for non-free DLC Smash Bros Characters...this is a soak test..will our "fans" buy DLC instead of expect it free??

it if they do this for smash bros or try to pull a PlayStation all stars routine where there is more DLC shit than there is actual unlockable content...i'm out. Just. out.

I doubt Nintendo will be stupid enough to pull something like that. The first batch of Mario kart 8 DLC arrives in November, so more or less six months after the game's release. I don't think those characters, tracks, et cetera were kept from being released with the launch of the game, because they probably would have offered the DLC sooner.
I also am pretty sure Sakurai said Smash won't have any DLC, but I guess we'll see how much truth that statement still holds soon enough.

Guild McCommunist · Aug 29, 2014

stanleyopar2000 said:
I know right??
they are setting us up for non-free DLC Smash Bros Characters...this is a soak test..will our "fans" buy DLC instead of expect it free like before?

If they do that, or to pull a PlayStation all stars routine where there is more DLC shit than there is actual unlockable content...i'm out. Just. fucking out.

You know there's only 4 DLC characters in PSABR and I think the same amount of stages, right?

Just pointing out your fucking stupid claim.

stanleyopar2000 · Aug 29, 2014

Qtis said:
Not all companies do shit DLC though. Nintendo could have added this in an update too

I'm a bit surprised it costs extra. Didn't Nintendo at some point say they won't be charging for DLC?

http://blog.games.com/2011/11/16/nintendo-reggie-fils-aime-interview/

yes they did. KINDA. or used wording in a PR friendly way.

We're interested in it to the extent that it makes sense to the consumer. And it's interesting: I've had this conversation with a number of our key developers, and their mentality is, "Reggie, when we sell a game, we want the consumer to feel that they've had a complete experience." Now, in addition, if we want to make other things available, great, and we'll look at that. But what we're unwilling to sell a piece of a game upfront and, if you will, force a consumer to buy more later. That's what they don't want to do, and I completely agree. I think the consumer wants to get, for their money, a complete experience, and then we have opportunities to provide more on top of that

Guild McCommunist said:
You know there's only 4 DLC characters in PSABR and I think the same amount of stages, right?

Just pointing out your fucking stupid claim.

I wasn't talking about characters. I was talking about the other DLC shit like Costumes and other things which should have been unlockable. My point was that, there are more things you can buy in the game than things you can actually earn in-game.
http://playstationallstars.wikia.com/wiki/DLC

KingVamp · Aug 29, 2014

Guild McCommunist said:
>people ~~suddenly~~ defend *good DLC

I hate this place.

Fix'd that for you.

chavosaur · Aug 29, 2014

I preordered it Immediately just to Wreck everyones shit with Pink Yoshi o3o

the_randomizer · Aug 29, 2014

Crisp Cookie said:
Nintendo and DLC?

Correction, "Nintendo and worthwhile DLC"

Guild McCommunist · Aug 29, 2014

the_randomizer said:
Correction, "Nintendo and worthwhile DLC"

Nothing screams "worthwhile" like MORE reskins of Mario and Peach, non-Mario characters in Mario Kart, and a character that was in Mario Kart Wii that they cut because, I don't know, maybe Pink Gold Peach had a higher goddamn priority.

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