Hardware PLAYSTATION 4 SALES SURPASS 7.0 MILLION UNITS WORLDWIDE

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I knew this was better than Xbox One. It's known to spy on you and it really freaks me out.

No it doesn't. There hasn't been a single legitimate instance of any kind of "spying" via the Kinect since the first Kinect's launch on the 360. Not to mention the Kinect isn't even required for the XBone, you can just, y'know, not plug it in and be done with it.
 
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No it doesn't. There hasn't been a single legitimate instance of any kind of "spying" via the Kinect since the first Kinect's launch on the 360. Not to mention the Kinect isn't even required for the XBone, you can just, y'know, not plug it in and be done with it.
And this comes from people who all have Facebooks accounts, use Chrome, Google, Android or iOS which all collect personal information and location data.
 

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Good but Sony has a loss about $1.2 billions so $7 millions compared to $1.2 bil is a long stretch.

7,000,001 x 400 = 2,800,000,400

and im being kind... in the UK a PS4 is like £350 which like


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i know your not the best with maths but 2,800,000,400 like moew than twice the amount of 1.2 billion
 

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7,000,001 x 400 = 2,800,000,400

and im being kind... in the UK a PS4 is like £350 which like

i know your not the best with maths but 2,800,000,400 like moew than twice the amount of 1.2 billion
Except that's not profit - you still have to subtract the cost of the consoles themselves and the cost of their distribution and promotion. I'd wager that software sales are still more important at this point, but judging by the technology used in the system, it's going to make a profit with each unit sold within the year.

Good but Sony has a loss about $1.2 billions so $7 millions compared to $1.2 bil is a long stretch.
Sony as a conglomerate is doing terribly and they have a lot of fat and dead weight to cut still, but the PlayStation division made a complete 180 and I believe that the PS4 will be a great money maker in the long run - it's cheap to manufacture, it's cheap for the end users and it's selling like hotcakes. If all goes well, profits will gradually climb. Now with the PC division gone, Sony can focus on those businesses that do bring money home. Not sure what they'll do about Bravia, but they need to understand that their prices are not competitive and it's time to release a budget line of Sony televisions or Samsung will utterly crush them with their cheap and high quality displays. They either need to make a comeback with that division or put it out of its misery.
 

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Except that's not profit - you still have to subtract the cost of the consoles themselves and the cost of their distribution and promotion. I'd wager that software sales are still more important at this point, but judging by the technology used in the system, it's going to make a profit with each unit sold within the year.

But Fox4SoNy didn’t you say something awhile back how all companies have debts and operating income something something something.. and sony is in no debt.
 

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But Fox4SoNy didn’t you say something awhile back how all companies have debts and operating income something something something.. and sony is in no debt.
I said that their money on-hand and equities surpass the level of their debt and if they felt like it, they just have better things to spend money on so instead of lowering their level of pseudo-debt, they're investing, hoping for long-term returns. A whole lot of massive corporations are indebted to someone and gradually pay that debt off, including such superpowers as Microsoft.

For those interested: http://www.forbes.com/companies/sony/

They're 12 billion in "debt", but they have 8 billion cash on-hand and 148 billion assets, I do believe that if they sold some of those assets off, they would be fully capable of nullifying their debt - it's just not a pressing matter to them.

Just to compare, here's Microsoft: http://www.forbes.com/companies/microsoft/

22 billion in debt, 2 billion cash on-hand and 153 billion assets. Is Microsoft going under? Of course not, they practically have a monopoly on operating systems for casual users, aside from the Mac crowd which is vocal but still limited.
 

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Except that's not profit - you still have to subtract the cost of the consoles themselves and the cost of their distribution and promotion. I'd wager that software sales are still more important at this point, but judging by the technology used in the system, it's going to make a profit with each unit sold within the year.

Trufax, IIRC there was an article about the manufacturing costs for a PS4, and it came out to something like ~$380 to manufacture and assemble each console, so technically Sony only made like ~$140mil (not counting reductions from R&D and distribution and such) from the PS4 console-wise. :teach: But as you mentioned, the software sales and PS+ subscriptions are what really matter, and I think at one point Sony said the number of monthly subscriptions for PS+ practically tripled during the initial PS4 release which is quite impressive to say the least.
 

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If they ever release a good priced bundle including a PS4, PS Vita and a couple years of PS+, then I will definitely buy it, they just gotta give us a good discount for that big purchase ^_^
actually, I dont get, why there hasn't been such a thing yet or did I just miss it ? :-)
 

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If they ever release a good priced bundle including a PS4, PS Vita and a couple years of PS+, then I will definitely buy it, they just gotta give us a good discount for that big purchase ^_^
actually, I dont get, why there hasn't been such a thing yet or did I just miss it ? :-)

Newegg had something like this during the PS4 launch, it was a Vita, a few games, a PS4, a year of PS+ and I think a headset for around $600 or something. No idea if they have it now still, though.
 

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