The state of American journalism

[Deleted User]

The problem with today's media is that it shows you the bad in the world, the things that don't affect you, because they don't happen often. If the news shows me a murder, they continue to talk about the negative effects of that murder for round about 2 weeks because there isn't a new murder everyday. In fact, if there was, it wouldn't be on the news because it isn't unusual enough to put on the news.

 

[Futurdreamz]

*cough*

This is from 2011, but looks like it hinted at this eventuality.

 

[Xzi]

This is just a lame excuse as is.

I can tell you that my preferred sources are Washington Post, NYT, occasionally WSJ or local news. You can look them up for what many of my opinions are based on, but they're still my opinions which is why I say I shouldn't have to source everything.

 

[Deleted User]

I can tell you that my preferred sources are Washington Post, NYT, occasionally WSJ or local news. You can look them up for what many of my opinions are based on, but they're still my opinions which is why I say I shouldn't have to source everything.

The thing I am getting at is that they are still just opinions. Not claims, which is what you want to express otherwise you are wasting precious moments of your life typing useless things on a keyboard.

 

[Xzi]

The thing I am getting at is that they are still just opinions. Not claims, which is what you want to express otherwise you are wasting precious moments of your life typing useless things on a keyboard.

Yes, but informed opinions based in reality, which for some reason needs to be clarified in today's political landscape. I don't feel I am wasting anything.

 

[Futurdreamz]

Yes, but informed opinions based in reality, which for some reason needs to be distinguished in today's political landscape. I don't feel I am wasting anything.

The problem is that in the USA you pretty much have to define what "reality" you believe in. Everyone bases their understanding of reality on what they see and hear, but can be seeing and hearing completely different things based on where you get your information, since all you see and hear is mostly third-hand. I don't know if any of you ever listened to a Trump speech from start to finish without skipping parts, nor do I know if any of you actually read the exact laws he has written.


it problably doesn't matter anyways. China is gearing up it's millitary for war so shit's going to come down eventually.

 

[Deleted User]

You're really just better off trolling Xzi because having a decent argument with him ends up trolling yourself.

I have known this for months now, yet each time I see him I believe that he might have changed, and then I meet the same ol' Xzi.

 

[MaverickWellington]

I have known this for months now, yet each time I see him I believe that he might have changed, and then I meet the same ol' Xzi.

My rule of thumb is that people who list their devices and what hacks they have on it are generally not worth talking to unless you're trolling them.

 

[Deleted User]

My rule of thumb is that people who list their devices and what hacks they have on it are generally not worth talking to unless you're trolling them.

wait

 

[MaverickWellington]

wait

(((mine is ironic so it's ok)))

 

[Futurdreamz]

I have known this for months now, yet each time I see him I believe that he might have changed, and then I meet the same ol' Xzi.

Yeah, some people really don't change. Retroboy after all this time still shitting over the Nintendo topics for no good reason is proof of that. Just accept that you cannot change their minds and ignore them, and wait for the terrible conclusion to their way of life to catch up to them.

 

[Xzi]

The problem is that in the USA you pretty much have to define what "reality" you believe in. Everyone bases their understanding of reality on what they see and hear, but can be seeing and hearing completely different things based on where you get your information, since all you see and hear is mostly third-hand. I don't know if any of you ever listened to a Trump speech from start to finish without skipping parts, nor do I know if any of you actually read the exact laws he has written.


it problably doesn't matter anyways. China is gearing up it's millitary for war so shit's going to come down eventually.

I partially agree with you, but we have journalists to digest hefty laws for us. The other thing worth mentioning, however, is that Trump's speeches are usually extremely short before he's off to some resort or golf course (usually owned by him). It's not hard to sit through a whole one. Trump also passed one piece of legislation in 2017, and it was a massive corporate welfare check. Again, not hard to follow.

 

[MaverickWellington]

The problem is that in the USA you pretty much have to define what "reality" you believe in. Everyone bases their understanding of reality on what they see and hear, but can be seeing and hearing completely different things based on where you get your information, since all you see and hear is mostly third-hand. I don't know if any of you ever listened to a Trump speech from start to finish without skipping parts, nor do I know if any of you actually read the exact laws he has written.


it problably doesn't matter anyways. China is gearing up it's millitary for war so shit's going to come down eventually.

Actually for what it's worth Xzi hasn't actually read anything. In my """debate""" with him on the topic of Net Neutrality he repeatedly refused to read anything I posted from the proposal itself and then tried to argue about it's contents based upon what the sensationalist, fear mongering media has said about it. This kind of behavior is exactly why journalism (or really the members of US society as a whole afflicted with it) is so stupidly sensationalist. Everyone's too emotional about stupid shit to the point they get invested and insulted by stuff they clearly don't care enough about to become educated on the topic of.

We should raise the voting age to 30 and just hope for the best at this rate, because letting a bunch of dumb teens have a voice in politics, even if they can serve in the military and put their lives on the line, is a really bad idea.

 

[Deleted User]

but we have journalists to digest hefty laws for us.

Finally getting back on topic I see...

 

[Xzi]

snip

You clearly ignored all my arguments about Net Neutrality if that's all you got from them, so I guess we're even on that one kiddo.

 

[Deleted User]

You clearly ignored all my arguments about Net Neutrality if that's all you got from them, so I guess we're even on that one kiddo.

The blatant disrespect I read from your posts is astounding. You have no respect for your sparring partners.

 

[Futurdreamz]

You clearly ignored all my arguments about Net Neutrality if that's all you got from them, so I guess we're even on that one kiddo.

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You do realize he was quoting me, right? You may have realized that if you didn't delete the quote you were responding to.

 

[Xzi]

The blatant disrespect I read from your posts is astounding. You have no respect for your sparring partners.

Maverick has not treated me with respect in basically ever. I don't know what you expect. You seem cool enough.

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You do realize he was quoting me, right? You may have realized that if you didn't delete the quote you were responding to.

He was responding to you yet almost his entire post was about me. Sorry to derail your convo.

 

[Kioku]

Maverick has not treated me with respect in basically ever. I don't know what you expect. You seem cool enough.


He was responding to you yet almost his entire post was about me. Sorry to derail your convo.

In terms of debate, he's at least attempted to refute most, if not ALL of your points in every thread I've seen you two going at it. You, on the other hand, continue with full force while refusing to yield to reason. You've even stated yourself that you didn't read some of his sources because they were wrong... Hard to respect that..

 

[Deleted User]

annnnnd this is why we can't have a politics section on temp.