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The FCC plans to vote away net neutrality in December

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This will probably happen, but they can in turn block that service whenever they want sadly :(
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I do feel people are overreacting a bit, though. If it's as severe as people are saying, surely people will outrage once they realize what has happened, but if these new plans include access to most sites etc., I see little problem for most people. But where will you turn when you want some mp3 files that turn out to be .exe's from sketchy websites? Who knows.....
Edit: if the plan includes access to the internet archive, there's a lot of good websites there, its just the ones that require user interaction that would be the issue...
Edit2: if the situation gets dire, people could join together to link up Ethernet cables across cities and have websites hosted locally, but there is little chance that people will have to resort to that.
 
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True....
I do feel people are overreacting a bit, though. If it's as severe as people are saying, surely people will outrage once they realize what has happened, but if these new plans include access to most sites etc., I see little problem for most people. But where will you turn when you want some mp3 files that turn out to be .exe's from sketchy websites? Who knows.....
Edit: if the plan includes access to the internet archive, there's a lot of good websites there, its just the ones that require user interaction that would be the issue...

If there is enough outcry from millions, I hope the FCC will cave and undo their BS and get shut down or replaced by a CEO who isn't a prick.
 

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True....
I do feel people are overreacting a bit, though. If it's as severe as people are saying, surely people will outrage once they realize what has happened, but if these new plans include access to most sites etc., I see little problem for most people. But where will you turn when you want some mp3 files that turn out to be .exe's from sketchy websites? Who knows.....
Itll be a slippery slope. First they'll go after piracy, then maybe porn, then extreme political content . . . Then we'll gradually get to the point where everything's behind a paywall, except big sites that offer tribute to cable companies.

Unless we can bring back net neutrality, that is. And I'm pretty sure that if we make enough trouble, the next administration might put in a good FCC head who will do the opposite of what Pai is doing.
 

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I'm sure that whatever happens, some new proxy or vpn service that will pop up should be able to get you to any site you want just fine.... hopefully.
Should we have to rely on such things? Or would it be simple to just pay a fee to go anywhere and everywhere without having a door that requires a payment to access, like some club with a entrance fee, except is all over the internet now. :unsure:
 

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If there is enough outcry from millions, I hope the FCC will cave and undo their BS and get shut down or replaced by a CEO who isn't a prick.
They still need a 3-2 vote to pass. If we cause enough outcry, we might convert one of the two commissioners that voted with Pai, and that'll be enough.

It'll be hard to do it now, but we have to keep applying pressure so the next FCC won't be filled with anti-democratic corporate lackeys.
 
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I feel like this could be the chance small isp's need to gain a consumer base. Right now the big isp's have a monopoly! When they try to charge for certain sites, people will turn to smaller, unlimited isp's, and the big boys will revert back.
(But this "big chance" shouldn't be happening at all.)
 

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They still need a 3-2 vote to pass. If we cause enough outcry, we might convert one of the two commissioners that voted with Pai, and that'll be enough.

It'll be hard to do it now, but we have to keep applying pressure so the next FCC won't be filled with anti-democratic corporate lackeys.

And that's what terrifies the hell out of me, what could or could not happen, who do we write or call to? Who do we complain and start insurrections towards? I absolutely despise the government right now for letting that Pai douche in charge of the FCC.

Can I cry now? Because I feel like the world is ending and that dread and sense of doom I feel when I get panic attacks is starting to cloud my logic and thought :cry:
 

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And that's what terrifies the hell out of me, what could or could not happen, who do we write or call to? Who do we complain and start insurrections towards? I absolutely despise the government right now for letting that Pai douche in charge of the FCC.

Can I cry now? Because I feel like the world is ending and that dread and sense of doom I feel when I get panic attacks is starting to cloud my logic and thought :cry:
The people we call are our congressmen and the President. Both have the authority to restore net neutrality whenever they want; Congress can pass a law, and Trump can sign an executive order, since the FCC is part of the executive branch and respond directly to trump.

It's also worth noting that a lot of Trump supporters are in favor of net neutrality I think, so if we make it clear that he's angered his base of support, he will do something about it I think.
 

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I feel like this could be the chance small isp's need to gain a consumer base. Right now the big isp's have a monopoly! When they try to charge for certain sites, people will turn to smaller, unlimited isp's, and the big boys will revert back.
(But this "big chance" shouldn't be happening at all.)
The reason big ISPs have a monopoly is because of the completely ass-backwards way America's network is laid out. Basically, if you want to use an ISP, their data cable has to be run to your house, because for whatever bullshit reason they can't share transmission lines. Big ISPs already have data lines going to all of the houses (excluding rural areas) that are in their area, but smaller ISPs would have to spend a shit ton of money to run cabling on demand. Regulating who can access the internet for what price won't do shit for the monopolies
 

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They still need a 3-2 vote to pass. If we cause enough outcry, we might convert one of the two commissioners that voted with Pai, and that'll be enough.

It'll be hard to do it now, but we have to keep applying pressure so the next FCC won't be filled with anti-democratic corporate lackeys.
Why don't you say how you really feel? Lol
 

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The people we call are our congressmen and the President. Both have the authority to restore net neutrality whenever they want; Congress can pass a law, and Trump can sign an executive order, since the FCC is part of the executive branch and respond directly to trump.

It's also worth noting that a lot of Trump supporters are in favor of net neutrality I think, so if we make it clear that he's angered his base of support, he will do something about it I think.

I don't know, man, I'm starting to feel a very palpable sense of dread, this would be what I call a panic attack, it's not bad now, but if I don't take a step back, yikes. I'm absolutely terrified of losing rights.

This is why big government can shove it up their butt.
 
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It's also worth noting that a lot of Trump supporters are in favor of net neutrality I think, so if we make it clear that he's angered his base of support, he will do something about it I think.
When has Trump ever, and I mean EVER ACTUALLY given a rat's ass about what's best for his supporters?

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I don't know, man, I'm starting to feel a very palpable sense of dread, this would be what I call a panic attack, it's not bad now, but if I don't take a step back, yikes. I'm absolutely terrified of losing rights.
Give this a go, I discovered it recently and have been using it a bit
 
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The reason big ISPs have a monopoly is because of the completely ass-backwards way America's network is laid out. Basically, if you want to use an ISP, their data cable has to be run to your house, because for whatever bullshit reason they can't share transmission lines. Big ISPs already have data lines going to all of the houses (excluding rural areas) that are in their area, but smaller ISPs would have to spend a shit ton of money to run cabling on demand. Regulating who can access the internet for what price won't do shit for the monopolies
And we need to call Congress to get rid of this bullshit. They put it there, and they can get it rid of it.
 
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When has Trump ever, and I mean EVER ACTUALLY given a rat's ass about what's best for his supporters?

No on in Congress is ever going to repeal this decision, so we may as well kiss our ass goodbye, curl up in a ball and cry ourselves to sleep in remembrance of our lost rights :(
 

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When has Trump ever, and I mean EVER ACTUALLY given a rat's ass about what's best for his supporters?
Completely unbiased-
Probably a few times....? (I don't follow politics, lol)
Idk, sounds like the idea that was suggested might work.
If enough people are angry at the president for something that can be changed easily, he has little to lose.
 

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And we need to call Congress to get rid of this bullshit. They put it there, and they can get it rid of it.

How do you really know that they can reverse it that easily? Something tells me there are gonna be a shitload of legal battles and it will be a mess, but as of right now, I don't see light at the end of the tunnel. I suppose I can write my reps, but...I don't know
if they will listen.
 

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Completely unbiased-
Probably a few times....? (I don't follow politics, lol)
Idk, sounds like the idea that was suggested might work.
If enough people are angry at the president for something that can be changed easily, he has little to lose.
I don't like Trump at all (personal bias here) but you pretty much said what I was thinking.
 
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