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Oh yeh, really safe!
Especially for a homosexual male.

"What are you going to do on holiday?"
"visiting a country where I get the death penalty for me sexuality ;')"

I don't call a country where there's a death penalty for sexuality safe.
Yes homosexuality is a problem in some middle eastern countries. Though I have to check which ones because I have heard people say that they live in a certain middle eastern country, being gay themselves and they don't execute gays. Also I have heard arguments that the Koran doesn't say to kill gays that its taken out of context. It says to condemn them but not kill them. The Koran is actually against most forms of murder. There only 2 reasons to get the death penalty under the koran. Adultery and a being murderer.

You have to pay attention to wording. Safest and safer. It doesn't mean its completely exempt from crime, but overall it is safer when compared to other countries. And homosexuality is only a minor population, so when considering for the majority people it is safer.
 

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Oh yeh, really safe!
Especially for a homosexual male.

"What are you going to do on holiday?"
"visiting a country where I get the death penalty for me sexuality ;')"

I don't call a country where there's a death penalty for sexuality safe.
Plain ignorance. None of these countries punish homosexuals. You see them all around everywhere in any of these countries. They won't get arrested, let alone "death penalty".

What you do in the privacy of your own home is up to you.
 
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Plain ignorance. None of these countries punish homosexuals. You see them all around everywhere in any of these countries. They won't get arrested, let alone "death penalty".

What you do in the privacy of your own home is up to you.
Yes, I have heard from middle easterners that homosexuals aren't executed. They say I live in this country and I have gay friends, or I live in this country and gays are not executed.
 
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Holy...? We started as a thread of a terrorist attack, then we end up at homosexuality. Off-topic much?
@Madridi I'll help you out here.

Homosexuality and other un-Islamic acts are not illegal if done in private and not causing harm to anyone else, meaning you can really only get arrested for adultery and damage to property, as well as murder in Muslim countries. However, if you do something such as public intoxication (which is illegal everywhere including US) then yeah you'll get arrested, won't get death penalty though.
 
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Yes homosexuality is a problem in some middle eastern countries. Though I have to check which ones because I have heard people say that they live in a certain middle eastern country, being gay themselves and they don't execute gays. Also I have heard arguments that the Koran doesn't say to kill gays that its taken out of context. It says to condemn them but not kill them. The Koran is actually against most forms of murder. There only 2 reasons to get the death penalty under the koran. Adultery and a being murderer.

You have to pay attention to wording. Safest and safer. It doesn't mean its completely exempt from crime, but overall it is safer when compared to other countries. And homosexuality is only a minor population, so when considering for the majority people it is safer.

Regardless, I'll just stay here in Europe.
Might be shite, the place where I live, but it's at least deprived from people.
Just the way I like it.

Plain ignorance. None of these countries punish homosexuals. You see them all around everywhere in any of these countries. They won't get arrested, let alone "death penalty".

What you do in the privacy of your own home is up to you.

Well, you live there so I take your word for it.
Still wouldn't want to go there tho.
 

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Adultery is not a reason for the death penalty. The one and only reason you can get killed is for murder, and the choice is by the family of the victim(s), either payment to them or death.
Yes homosexuality is a problem in some middle eastern countries. Though I have to check which ones because I have heard people say that they live in a certain middle eastern country, being gay themselves and they don't execute gays. Also I have heard arguments that the Koran doesn't say to kill gays that its taken out of context. It says to condemn them but not kill them. The Koran is actually against most forms of murder. There only 2 reasons to get the death penalty under the koran. Adultery and a being murderer.

You have to pay attention to wording. Safest and safer. It doesn't mean its completely exempt from crime, but overall it is safer when compared to other countries. And homosexuality is only a minor population, so when considering for the majority people it is safer.
You get 60 flogs in public for adultery for both the man and woman involved. In court if someone random (not the spouse if applicable) is accusing you of adultery, they need 4 witnesses or a pic/video of it happening. If a spouse is accusing the other of adultery, he/she must swear by God 3 times, and swearing by God and lying is a grave sin, and they will be punished for it in the afterlife.

Edit: And just to let this out, this is Shariah law. No, not that Shariah law you've been told by everyone, the real one. People often mix up the laws of majority Muslim countries with Shariah law. Muslims are not obliged to follow Shariah law, but it is simply a guidance for how to govern a country according to Islam.
 
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Yes, I have heard from middle easterners that homosexuals aren't executed. They say I live in this country and I have gay friends, or I live in this country and gays are not executed.
I am from Qatar, and these countries are neiboughring countries. I know the customs all too well. My cousin is gay and so is one of my former best friends (we kinda lost touch after college).

Do we accept it? No. Do we think it's normal? No.
But we don't start a witch hunt over it either. No one is given the death penalty. No one is arrested. No one is beaten down. No one is even going to curse you. All they would be getting is stares and glares from people.

Holy...? We started as a thread of a terrorist attack, then we end up at homosexuality. Off-topic much?
@Madridi I'll help you out here.

Homosexuality and other un-Islamic acts are not illegal if done in private and not causing harm to anyone else, meaning you can really only get arrested for adultery and damage to property, as well as murder in Muslim countries. However, if you do something such as public intoxication (which is illegal everywhere including US) then yeah you'll get arrested, won't get death penalty though.
It's general public display of affection that's more or less not permitted (though it's enforced in some countries more than others). Otherwise, you can do whatever you want at your own home.

Well, you live there so I take your word for it.
Still wouldn't want to go there tho.
That's fine buddy, you do you. No one is forcing you to come or move here lol. The topic in hand was about "safety", and when it comes to that, the countries mentioned are ones of the safest in the world thankfully.
 
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Regardless, I'll just stay here in Europe.
Might be shite, the place where I live, but it's at least deprived from people.
Just the way I like it.



Well, you live there so I take your word for it.
Still wouldn't want to go there tho.
You do not like people do you. I think people are awesome. Im not really anti people at all. Its probably because I get along with most people in person.

It depends on what European and western country you look at. Uk and Us score in the middle of how safe they are of all countries.

@Madridi You pretty much been confirming what i've been saying.

And also the Hijab is not required by law for the majority of muslim countries. Only 1 I can think of right now that is required by law is Iran.
 
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That's fine buddy, you do you. No one is forcing you to come or move here lol. The topic in hand was about "safety", and when it comes to that, the countries mentioned are ones of the safest in the world thankfully.

Punishment from petty crimes are more severe then the western world so yeh.
It's understandable there's less crime.

You do not like people do you. I think people are awesome. Im not really anti people at all. Its probably because I get along with most people in person.

It depends on what European and western country you look at. Uk and Us score in the middle of how safe they are.

Yes I hate people.
Gay or straight, black or white, big or small, christan or muslim.
I fucking hate people and want them all to suffocate in their sleep.
You wanted to hear that?

Yeh, I'm not fond of people and I have me reasons for it.
Oddly enough, on the web, it's the opposite ;/
I could say go figure but I barley understand it meself.
 

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Terrorists and pedophiles should be tortured profusely
But you need to be able to define "pedophile". Not long ago, a woman was pretty much an old hag if she made it past 16 without finding a husband. Now, many places set the bar at 18 minimum, others 20, and even a few in the U.S. still allow 16 with parental consent. My sister was married at 16. Stayed married to the same guy until he died (just a couple of months ago, in fact).

So where is this magical line drawn where the person "should be tortured profusely"?
 

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But you need to be able to define "pedophile". Not long ago, a woman was pretty much an old hag if she made it past 16 without finding a husband. Now, many places set the bar at 18 minimum, others 20, and even a few in the U.S. still allow 16 with parental consent. My sister was married at 16. Stayed married to the same guy until he died (just a couple of months ago, in fact).

So where is this magical line drawn where the person "should be tortured profusely"?

Age of consent in Germany is 14.
Couple of other countries have the same age of consent.

defining "pedophile" is a difficult subject indeed.
 

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Something I noticed:
How come they call this terrorism and no one has called the Vegas attack terrorism?
Coincidentally, the man who carried out this attack was a foreigner while the Vegas guy was white.

Makes you think, hmm?
 

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Something I noticed:
How come they call this terrorism and no one has called the Vegas attack terrorism?
Coincidentally, the man who carried out this attack was a foreigner while the Vegas guy was white.

Makes you think, hmm?
This attack was done in the name of ISIS while the vegas shooter, there is nothing, no ideology, no religion, no political party, just nothing
thats why liberal media rushed to call this a lone wolf attack to downplay it
 
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This attack was done in the name of ISIS while the vegas shooter, there is nothing, no ideology, no religion, no political party, just nothing
thats why liberal media rushed to call this a lone wolf attack to downplay it

The ideology doesn't matter, it's still a terror attack. How much you wanna bet that if the perpetrator was a gringo no one would call it a terror attack?
 

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Why is anybody surprised about this? Americans spend trillions of tax dollars to drop bombs on millions of people in the Middle East. Sure, some that are killed in the ME are guilty, but many more are innocent. Is this not American terrorism in those countries??? If you want the attacks to stop here, then get out of the Middle East and leave those people alone. Otherwise, what goes around, comes around. Stop complaining or worrying about it.
It's truly amazing how little you understand of the world. Even if we pulled out of the middle east (we've only been clamoring for this for quite some time now) it wouldn't stop. This isn't some karma bullshit like you're spouting. It's ignorance and biased hatred. So much more work involved than "pulling out" (there's a joke in there somewhere).

It's easy to discuss politics of a country you clearly don't live in.

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The ideology doesn't matter, it's still a terror attack. How much you wanna bet that if the perpetrator was a gringo no one would call it a terror attack?

If he claimed ISIS or anything of the sort? Yeah. By definition the Vegas shooting can't be labeled as terrorism. As much as I'd love to label it as such. It's an in house massacre, but not one aimed at the government or its entities.. Which is ironic when you consider what the government was supposed to be

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OK SMARTASS what Surah? (verse) does it state that? I was muslim for a while and had a copy of the Quran anyways plz stay off the Muslim stuff that did sound sectist

A quick Google search will give you the answers. That's really where it should end.
 

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The ideology doesn't matter, it's still a terror attack. How much you wanna bet that if the perpetrator was a gringo no one would call it a terror attack?
Here, you might find this useful:
http://www.webster-dictionary.org/definition/terrorist attack

If you can't open the page it a dictionary entry that says this:
Noun 1. terrorist attack - a surprise attack involving the deliberate use of violence against civilians in the hope of attaining political or religious aims

To put it in simple terms, We don't know the motive/ there doesn't appear to be a motive behind the Vegas attack, therefore we can't call it a "terrorist attack" whereas the new York attack was isis and therefore influenced by radical religion, which would label the attack as a "terrorist attack"
 
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Just to think me mum is leaving tonight for NYC...
ISIS never target the same place twice in quick succession, except for Lomdon because it’s so easy attack because of the retarded mayor
You’re safer going to NYC now than going anywhere else judging by their previous attacks
The problem is I can't trust any western media about issues in the Middle East. About religion or anything.

Just look at this article from the nytimes. Its filled with nothing but lies.
That the family wants to perform an honor killing against the girl that was raped is a lie.

None of the news outlets in the Middle East said this. Heres the original news source in Persian (Use some translator to translate).
Many news outlets in the Middle East said the same thing. That the family took the Girl to the hospital and rape was confirmed there. The rapist (mullah) was arrested. And the Family wanted the death sentence by hanging for the rapist. The western media version of the story is a complete lie and many sources confirm this.

The Authorities of the Women's ministry also wanted the rapist to be executed.
If you don't know what a mullah is, a Mullah is a Muslim learned in Islamic theology and sacred law.

There was also another girl the was raped by a mullah a week prior to this event. The family did not wait for the law and took justice to their own hands. They cut off the mullahs ears and nose.

If you hear these 2 statements about the middle east.
  • A female is punished for being raped.
  • A rapist is marrying his victim by forced marriage.
Its probably a lie.

Its getting to the point I don't know who to believe anymore. The western media constantly lies a lot. And some of this comes from the corruption of some feminist groups. Westerners know little about the less developed nations like middle eastern ones so they can easily get away with stuff like this.
Countries under Shariah Law (law of Islam) actively take part in public stonings of gay people, throwing them off roofs and much more
Women are also treated like dirt over there, acid attacks, genital mutilation, gang rapes (much like in Sweden), must be accompanied by a man, and among other things
 
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It's truly amazing how little you understand of the world. Even if we pulled out of the middle east (we've only been clamoring for this for quite some time now) it wouldn't stop. This isn't some karma bullshit like you're spouting. It's ignorance and biased hatred. So much more work involved than "pulling out" (there's a joke in there somewhere).

It's easy to discuss politics of a country you clearly don't live in.

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If he claimed ISIS or anything of the sort? Yeah. By definition the Vegas shooting can't be labeled as terrorism. As much as I'd love to label it as such. It's an in house massacre, but not one aimed at the government or its entities.. Which is ironic when you consider what the government was supposed to be

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A quick Google search will give you the answers. That's really where it should end.
Of course it doesn't end just by pulling out. There was a time when we weren't involved with any wars in the Middle East and the attacks still happened. But why is this?? You think Arabic nations, and Islam despise the west because they are jealous of your way of life? Or entirely because you are not Muslim? Maybe brushing up on your post WWII history and understanding the politics, and the west's involvement with a little startup nation called Israel is a good place for you to start;). And if you really want to open Pandora's box, study the history of Judaism over the past 3000 years, and how it works in the shadows, driving the politics and economics of most western wars. Everybody tirelessly discusses the dynamics between Islam, and the "Christian" west, but nobody ever says a peep about how Judaism works in this equation. When you study Judaism, it's history, and the motives it has, you will realize that Israel/Judaism is the hidden elephant in the china shop with this conflict.

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ISIS never target the same place twice in quick succession, except for Lomdon because it’s so easy attack because of the retarded mayor
You’re safer going to NYC now than going anywhere else judging by their previous attacks

Countries under Shariah Law (law of Islam) actively take part in public stonings of gay people, throwing them off roofs and much more
Women are also treated like dirt over there, acid attacks, genital mutilation, gang rapes (much like in Sweden), must be accompanied by a man, and among other things
Have you seen what Mexican drug cartels are doing to countless people? Why isn't America invading Mexico to liberate the people from these animals?? The drug cartels do worse things to innocent people. What Isis does is mostly humane compared to what I have seen happening in Mexico. Oh.. I guess the answer to my question is that if a little nation called Israel was located somewhere in Mexico, and the Mexican cartels opposed Israel, then the U.S. would definitely be occupying Mexico City, keeping the peace for our "only ally in the region."
 
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ISIS never target the same place twice in quick succession, except for Lomdon because it’s so easy attack because of the retarded mayor
You’re safer going to NYC now than going anywhere else judging by their previous attacks

I said that in the sense of it could've happened whilst me mum was there at the NYC marathon.
 

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